Interesting color outcome- ANY THOUGHTS??

Peachykeen · Post by **Peachykeen** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:53 pm

I have a male Gray and a Turq Female. Their first clutch this year brought 3 grays and 2 turq. I just went to check on the babies today and I notice that one of the babies has red eyes. HUMMMMMMMMMMM

The pin feathers are dark- like it would be a blue/turq/gray... but those red eyes..... The tail looks yellow but that could just be enviromental. Food or poopy- they are poopying a lot...lol.. have to clean out almost every other day to keep them clean but I never looked at the eyes because I was not expecting anything special. I was just trying to get the babies out and back in as soon as possible.... looking at their feet mostly.

Any thoughts??? Surely couldn't be a lutino? Could it? Not with the dark pin feathers?

My son is Graduating Sunday and we were going to take them Sunday night for hand feeding when we got back- but decided we are going to go ahead and do it tomorrow before we hit a heat spell. It is getting pretty steamy.

They are about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. I can take pictures when I pull them but would still love to hear any thoughts in the mean time.

Good Day!

Suzanne

Peachykeen · Post by **Peachykeen** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:54 pm

I looked at the baby again.. it is definately a lutino or creamino. It is fair skinned... light - clear nails... I the the dark in the pin feathering is blood.

U.S Marine · Post by **U.S Marine** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:21 pm

Well, we sure know its a mutt..

julie · Post by **julie** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:39 pm

Have a look through this thread while you wait for someone to come along to give you a hand. http://indianringneck.com/board/viewtop ... 92&start=0 Its more towards the bottom of the page where they talk more about these colors.

Peachykeen · Post by **Peachykeen** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:52 pm

I followed this thread when it started and I found it so interesting- yet so confusing. I had a traumatic brain injury about three years ago and learning new thing... especially this kind of stuff is next to impossible for me to understand and process.

I hope someone can explain it to me in terms that I would understand- as far as what I have going on here. I am just intrigued- but feel so dumb sometimes and genetics... well all the time

Would the baby need to be DNA sexed or would it be a girl based on mom and dad??

Suzanne

U.S Marine · Post by **U.S Marine** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:01 pm

I heard people here say that it can be based
on mom&dad, my bird was based on mom&dad
as a male.

Peachykeen · Post by **Peachykeen** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:25 pm

To me- the little feathers poking out- look like a VERY VERY light gray. Not white. Almost like a silver color. I am gonna have to look at some information to see if this color is even real. Anyone with experience would be most welcome to chime in.. here are so pictures.

They are still pin feathers.. nothing definative too see here.. but they are cute none the less.

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Coastal-Birds · Post by **Coastal-Birds** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:35 am

Well looking at the photos at that age i would be going for a grey lacewing.
So cock would have to be a split grey /lacewing.
When it has most oin feathers close to opening if it is a grey lacewing it will show white on its head and tail.If a green series lacewing the head and tail will be yellow.Another 2 weeks you should see full colouring.
Cheers

Peachykeen · Post by **Peachykeen** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:47 am

I think you are right by what I can see so far. Here is a picture of one (not mine) http://pics.hoobly.com/full/ZP1H99OSGK8RPMMXOE.jpg

Is that what you are talking about??

Would I have to DNA sex or would it be a female.

Coastal-Birds · Post by **Coastal-Birds** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:59 pm

Ok that photo looks like either a pastelblue lacewing or maybe a pastel skyblue.
But if your cock is split to lacewing(pallid) all lacewing young will be hens.
This is what you can get in colours from your pair.

Cock := Blue Grey(sf) / Pallid

Hen := Turquoise(sf) Blue

PERCENTAGE DESCRIPTION

6.250 % Turquoise(sf) Blue Hen

6.250 % Turquoise(sf) Blue Grey(sf) Hen

6.250 % Turquoise(sf) Blue Cock

6.250 % Turquoise(sf) Blue Grey(sf) Cock

6.250 % Turquoise(sf) Blue Pallid Hen

6.250 % Turquoise(sf) Blue Pallid Grey(sf) Hen

6.250 % Turquoise(sf) Blue / Pallid Cock

6.250 % Turquoise(sf) Blue Grey(sf) / Pallid Cock

6.250 % Blue Hen

6.250 % Blue Grey(sf) Hen

6.250 % Blue Cock

6.250 % Blue Grey(sf) Cock

6.250 % Blue Pallid Hen

6.250 % Blue Pallid Grey(sf) Hen

6.250 % Blue / Pallid Cock

6.250 % Blue Grey(sf) / Pallid Cock

Cheers Coastal Birds

Peachykeen · Post by **Peachykeen** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:14 pm

That looks right. Had always thought she was just Turq- but she is turqblue.

We did get a blue baby this time too!

They really saved the odd balls for the last clutch of the year

I will post some more pictures in about 2 weeks or so

Thank so much CB

Peachykeen · Post by **Peachykeen** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:45 pm

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julie · Post by **julie** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:24 pm

looking at the baby pics I don't think you got any standard colors

the blue looks like spike did at that age and spike is a turq and the other darker one is a very dark color, im not sure if that's what they call cobalt or not? I did see some pics on here of the color I will see if I can find them.

julie · Post by **julie** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:39 pm

here you go , check out the Ninth post down , there is a baby there that looks like the other one too. http://indianringneck.com/board/viewtop ... alt+chicks here you go , check out the Ninth post down

Peachykeen · Post by **Peachykeen** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:28 pm

Yes- thats my baby- (the Turquoisegrey Pallid, a Turquoiseblue Pallid picture) looks just like my baby.

I also got the GreyTurquoise and I don't know if that other is just plain blue or not. He is much darker than my other blue babies of the past.

I am excited to say they least. This has been the most exciting clutch we have had yet!

Coastal-Birds · Post by **Coastal-Birds** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:37 pm

Hi There
Ok in those last photos it seems you have a pastel blue lacewing.
Or you might call it a turquoiseblue pallid there.
I use comman Australian names.
Also a pastel grey and a blue.Im not sure if its the lighting but the grey bird seems to have green tinted feathers in the close up pic?.
So from this your cock bird must be split to pallid(lacewing) and the hen is a pastel blue(turquoiseblue).

Cheers
Todd

Peachykeen · Post by **Peachykeen** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:15 pm

That baby is gray with green tinge on the wings. I just saw it today. Inside you can't see it well at all... but I took those pictures outside with no flash and it was when I took them outside that I saw the green on his wings.

They really saved the suprise for the last clutch of the year.

So the graygreen one- you (in Australia?) called that a Pastel Gray (lacewing?) and the other one a Pastel Blue lacewing.

I think (??) not sure here in America they call the pastel blue lacewing a TurquoiseBlue Pallid or Lacewing and the Gray a GrayTurqoiuse.

Maybe Jay will chime in- he knows more about the official names here in America.. I am no expert

Coastal-Birds · Post by **Coastal-Birds** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:58 pm

The grey here we would call a pastel grey.
It is not a pallid or lacewing but if a male it can be split to lacewing.
As you can see in the outcome for babies you can get a cock and hen in pastel grey or a split lacewing male only.
If it was a lacewing you would see yellow on its head and tail already.
Each country calls the same birds different names but even pallid or lacewing isnt the right name for them but that is what we are stuck with worldwide now.
With pastel it can vary from 20-80%.
Some pastel blues will almost look green if they have heavy pastel,i have had a pastel violet which was very green until it flew then the violet showed.
Best of luck with your young.

Todd

Peachykeen · Post by **Peachykeen** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:01 pm

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He is still just stunning! I wish I could keep them all!

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