Need some advise Please!!
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Need some advise Please!!
I have the opportunity to purchase a pair of ringnecks that I'm kinda worried about. My breeders that I have pair up have produced and others I have bought were proven by previous owner. The women that has these birds says the female is more interested then the male. She said the male just mates with his food dish and perches. Could this maybe be a young male that will get the hang of it soon or is this a habit he has developed? I have mature male that I could put with this female but I don't want a horny dude just sitting around eating and pooping and masturbating on every thing but a female. Your thoughts anybody. Thanks
Donna
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Aww. Poor lil man. Sounds like my Jibs. Rooting everything but birdies!
This is why I don't think my Jibs would make a good daddy bird.
I think the man needs to watch some birdy porn?? Or maybe she just doesn't do it for him. hehe.
In all seriousness. I'm not too good with the breeding side of birds. But maybe pair the male with another female? Maybe hes just not the breeding type?
I think the man needs to watch some birdy porn?? Or maybe she just doesn't do it for him. hehe.
In all seriousness. I'm not too good with the breeding side of birds. But maybe pair the male with another female? Maybe hes just not the breeding type?
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lmao .. I can't help but think his daddy told him how dangerous it can be to mate with a female, .. like..
"Son I was lucky with your mum, she almost bit my head off the first time I tried with her, but I was strong and persistent and when she was tired and not looking I just jumped her. Please be careful when you decide to try with your future missus, you know they can act all cute and I want you and as soon as you jump on, that's it, chomp."
On a serious note:
Do you know how old they are, has the male got his full ring in yet ? I really couldn't say what to do in this situation, if you are serious about breeding them I would probably go for another proven breeding pair. But me, I like a challenge and would probably take them on and hope that once the breeding box is in and she really wants to go down, she will start working the box and really work on him to get her way.
"Son I was lucky with your mum, she almost bit my head off the first time I tried with her, but I was strong and persistent and when she was tired and not looking I just jumped her. Please be careful when you decide to try with your future missus, you know they can act all cute and I want you and as soon as you jump on, that's it, chomp."
On a serious note:
Do you know how old they are, has the male got his full ring in yet ? I really couldn't say what to do in this situation, if you are serious about breeding them I would probably go for another proven breeding pair. But me, I like a challenge and would probably take them on and hope that once the breeding box is in and she really wants to go down, she will start working the box and really work on him to get her way.
Angie
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Hey Donna,
Before I answer the question here is some information that will aid you in your decision. Usually, speaking form my experience, males who exhibit this behavior were handfed or were at some point a pet. I have had several pairs of lovebird males who never “got it.” They were unfortunately handfed and never had interaction with other birds. As a result, the males would mate with the perches and never the female. I found the best solution was to house them together for the purpose of having company with other birds.
So you might be wondering did the males ever figure out how to mate with the females? The answer was no. They continually mated with perches. I sometimes foster birds until I can find suitable houses.
Here is my remedy. Only take on the birds if you wish to admire them for their beauty and enjoy the pair for what they are worth. I would not expect babies, especially because the male has a small window yearly to get it right— because of ringneck’s breeding season. With that said, you might get lucky and they might produce.
Hope this helps and please keep us updated.
Best wishes,
Imran Chaudhry
Before I answer the question here is some information that will aid you in your decision. Usually, speaking form my experience, males who exhibit this behavior were handfed or were at some point a pet. I have had several pairs of lovebird males who never “got it.” They were unfortunately handfed and never had interaction with other birds. As a result, the males would mate with the perches and never the female. I found the best solution was to house them together for the purpose of having company with other birds.
So you might be wondering did the males ever figure out how to mate with the females? The answer was no. They continually mated with perches. I sometimes foster birds until I can find suitable houses.
Here is my remedy. Only take on the birds if you wish to admire them for their beauty and enjoy the pair for what they are worth. I would not expect babies, especially because the male has a small window yearly to get it right— because of ringneck’s breeding season. With that said, you might get lucky and they might produce.
Hope this helps and please keep us updated.
Best wishes,
Imran Chaudhry
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<action> begins to scribble in her note book .. thanks imran, love learning new things.
My pair, kai and mickey (kai was our pet and mickey was a wild rescue) but then kai began as hand raised and was put out to aviary with other birds for 10 months before I came to take him home with me, I tamed him down to a pet from there so I guess that explains why he and mickey turned out to be a wonderful breeding pair first up.
My pair, kai and mickey (kai was our pet and mickey was a wild rescue) but then kai began as hand raised and was put out to aviary with other birds for 10 months before I came to take him home with me, I tamed him down to a pet from there so I guess that explains why he and mickey turned out to be a wonderful breeding pair first up.
Angie
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Hatred stirs up strife, But love covers all sins. {Pro 10:12}
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Hatred stirs up strife, But love covers all sins. {Pro 10:12}
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God Bless

Donna,
You potentially stand the chance of wasting the hen's breeding seasons just to get the male to learn how to breed (assuming he ever does). Although none of my male breeders have this problem, my breeder buddy wasted three seasons on a cock (not a pet) who also mates with and masturbates on the perches. He never did learn and was sold off to a broker perhaps to become a full-fledged pet.
Just like their human counterparts, male IRNs are prone to reproductive impotency in more ways than one. Because of this, when acquiring expensive mutations to propagate, experienced breeders will purchase a female first because statistically, hens are less prone to reproductive drawbacks.
So anyway,...ask the current owner how many seasons this male been trying to breed unsuccesfully. Age is not always the cause as I have several 2-year old males hitting home runs on their first trip to the plate. IMHO, rehabilitating and test breeding the male is only okay if you have a spare hen, spare cage, and patience to do so.
If I were in your situation, I will not buy the male unless like Imran stated, you are prepared to just admire him for his beauty and grandeur in case this male continues to bat zero.
DDP
You potentially stand the chance of wasting the hen's breeding seasons just to get the male to learn how to breed (assuming he ever does). Although none of my male breeders have this problem, my breeder buddy wasted three seasons on a cock (not a pet) who also mates with and masturbates on the perches. He never did learn and was sold off to a broker perhaps to become a full-fledged pet.
Just like their human counterparts, male IRNs are prone to reproductive impotency in more ways than one. Because of this, when acquiring expensive mutations to propagate, experienced breeders will purchase a female first because statistically, hens are less prone to reproductive drawbacks.
So anyway,...ask the current owner how many seasons this male been trying to breed unsuccesfully. Age is not always the cause as I have several 2-year old males hitting home runs on their first trip to the plate. IMHO, rehabilitating and test breeding the male is only okay if you have a spare hen, spare cage, and patience to do so.
If I were in your situation, I will not buy the male unless like Imran stated, you are prepared to just admire him for his beauty and grandeur in case this male continues to bat zero.
DDP
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Re: Need some advise Please!!
Donna wrote:I don't want a horny dude just sitting around eating and pooping and masturbating on every thing but a female.
kyria wrote: "Son I was lucky with your mum, she almost bit my head off the first time I tried with her, but I was strong and persistent and when she was tired and not looking I just jumped her. Please be careful when you decide to try with your future missus, you know they can act all cute and I want you and as soon as you jump on, that's it, chomp."
PsittaculaChick wrote: I think the man needs to watch some birdy porn??



