Not sure what colour/mutation

julie · Post by **julie** » Sun May 27, 2007 12:11 am

I got this irn yesterday but im not too sure what mutation I have and the bloke that sold him/her to me wasnt sure either but it was very cheap :shock:

giantfoot_truck · Post by **giantfoot_truck** » Sun May 27, 2007 3:22 am

It looks like the offspring produced from white IRN and blue IRN bred together, I dont know whats the name.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Sun May 27, 2007 10:26 am

Looks like a Blue Pallid AKA Blue Lacewing. Those birds are still going for $200-$300 here in the US.

Here's my own Blue Pallid to the right. The bird on the left is a Turquoiseblue Pallid also known as a Rainbow IRN.

By the way giantfoot just so you know, combining Blue and White(Albino) will produce you White and/or Blues but will not produce White-headed specimens (Blue Pallids) which are entirely of a different mutation composite. :wink:

giantfoot_truck · Post by **giantfoot_truck** » Sun May 27, 2007 12:02 pm

Oh okay depois, I thought its like that because of the blue and white mixture...

julie · Post by **julie** » Sun May 27, 2007 5:46 pm

cool thanks for that, I paid $50 for that one at the monster bird sale that we have every year. Hardly any had prices and was just a tell me what you will pay thing.

Post by **kyria** » Sun May 27, 2007 7:58 pm

Well done , they are absolutely beautiful !

FGM · Post by **FGM** » Thu May 31, 2007 2:35 pm

I'm no good at mutations but I can see why you came home with this bird absolutely gorgeous colouring.

julie · Post by **julie** » Thu May 31, 2007 5:43 pm

FGM wrote:I'm no good at mutations but I can see why you came home with this bird absolutely gorgeous colouring.

I actually went back to get his sister but she was already gone, if I seen some like the ones depois do prazer
has I would most definately have brought him home.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:22 am

50 coconuts for a Blue Pallid is a steal. Good work. What are you planning to mate her with?

julie · Post by **julie** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:46 am

Im not too sure if its a he or a she at the moment but Im thinking male. When he matures I was thinking maybe pairing him with skye, here is a link to the thread with a pic of skye http://www.indianringneck.com/board/vie ... php?t=4043
Do you think they would be a good colour match or should I pair him with a different colour? I love the marble type effect on his wings, I sit out the back looking at him half the day.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:04 pm

That would be the same pair that I have on the picture I sent above (Blue Pallid x Turquoiseblue Pallid). It doesn't matter what the gender of the parents. All offsprings will be the same as the parents in male and female.

Hence, you can produce:

Turquoiseblue Pallids cocks and hens
Blue Pallids cocks and hens.

Now those are stunning birds!

Now if she happens to be a double-factor Turquoise Pallid, then all their offsprings will be Rainbow IRNs (Turquoiseblue Pallids).

julie · Post by **julie** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:39 am

I cant wait till he is mature, I think I will get a dna test done so I know for sure. I was thinking of pairing skye with the blue cock that I have, its got me curious to what colour they will produce.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:21 am

Mating the Blue to Skye could potentially give you:

TurquoiseBlue split Pallid cocks
Blue split Pallid cocks
TurquoiseBlue hens
Blue hens

Not bad at all especially that the Blue male on your pictures appear to be a mature male. The Blue Pallid may not be mature enough to breed and therefore you stand to waste an entire breeding season if it turns out he isn't ready to breed yet. In my experience, 50% of two-year old cockbirds and almost 100% of 1-year olds are still infertile.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:02 am

julie wrote:I cant wait till he is mature, I think I will get a dna test done so I know for sure.

Unless his/her mother is a visual Lacewing (Pallid), then the Blue Pallid is certainly a female. That's the nature of sex-linked mutations such as Pallid.

julie · Post by **julie** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:19 pm

I dont actually know what the parents are, I was so excited to be gettinjg him/her that I forgot to ask :oops:

JimHcctx · Post by **JimHcctx** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:07 pm

Julie, I think I have the same birds as your Blue Pallid. However, yours seems to have blue going up the back of the head above the neck ring and both of mine seem to have a solid diffrence in color exactly along the neck ring. Does this not make mine Pallids? I am trying to learn, the breeder told me blue-lacewing. thanks... Jim[/url]

julie · Post by **julie** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:35 pm

Hi JimHcctx , have you got any pics of your birds?

JimHcctx · Post by **JimHcctx** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:12 pm

Julie, Here is a photo of one of the birds, they both look the same. This photo do to the flash I think makes the bird look slightly green. But the color is exactly the same shade light blue as yours.

IndianRingNeck.com

Not sure what colour/mutation

Not sure what colour/mutation

Same thing?