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Clown Loaches
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:30 am
by courtney
I finally got some clown loaches. I got five of them. They are in a 75 gallon tank and eventually will be transferred to 150 gallon tank. I have been really thinking a lot about them because I know they are extremely prone to ick but ick is easy to cure so if I see I will just medicate. So Im medicating the tank now because you can guarantee they will get it.
But how cute are they?!!! They just have a blast in that tank swimming like loonies and just zoom around like nut balls. I just love them.
Sorry I could not get very good pics of them. They swim to fast to get a clear pic.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:17 pm
by U.S Marine
When i had a fish tank, i was looking at loachs to buy. I seen some interesting ones.
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:56 pm
by Mjay
Very nice
i have 1 clown loach, but he's not alone
i also have 2 gourami's, 1 koi angel, 2 silver sharks, 1 kribensis, quite a few guppies, 1 bristlenose, 1 rainbow shark, 4 black widow tetra's and 2 zebra danio's, i see you have a goldfish, do the loaches annoy him

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:41 pm
by SkyBaby
I love loaches. They're lots of fun. At that small size, I'm sure they love that 75 gallon. The tank size is great
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clown_loach
Only thing is, Loaches are a tropical fish and prefer more acidic water (a pH of 5-6 or so) and goldfish prefer more basic water (pHs 7-8). It is true that most tropicals in aquariums will get used to higher or lower pHs and different water hardness than this wiki article states. My tap water pH is naturally on the high end, typically 7.5-8. My betta doesn't seem to mind it. Don't get those pH Ups or pH Downs. Those cause fluctuations which stress your fish and make them more susceptible to illness.
Most tropical fish like their temps to be between 78-80 degrees F. Goldfish tend to prefer the cooler temps.
The goldfish are also heavy waste producers when they're large, so that will increase an already sensitive fish's risk of getting sick.
I would buy the goldfish their own large tank so everyone has the recommended water levels.
I recommend the API Master Test Kit. That's what I use and it's quite accurate.
Sorry for the onslaught of info. I'm a fish geek. If you need any help, let me know.

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:13 am
by courtney
I also like the yo-yo loaches, does anyone know if you can put them together?
Marine-you NEED to get loaches then. It’s amazing how active they are.
Mjay, how many tanks do you have? Wow! I have three.
Thanks Skybaby. Those goldfish are my friends goldfish. She got a new tank because her’s was leaking so until she got it set up I held on to them for her. So they are not in there now, she picked them up. So don’t worry I do know they don’t mix. I test my water once a week. I will never use ph buffers unless the ph are unstable. NO CHEMICLES unless absolutely necessary. Sop the five loaches have the 75 gallon to themselves now.
Thanks I will let you know if I need advice. But I do have one question. I know loaches are super prone to ick so how often do they get ick. Every time you clean the tank, add a new fish? Are you supposed to medicate every time you do something to the tank or just when ever you see the ick?
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:30 am
by U.S Marine
Sorry, i can't. I took my aquarium down.
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:48 pm
by SkyBaby
courtney wrote:I also like the yo-yo loaches, does anyone know if you can put them together?
Marine-you NEED to get loaches then. It’s amazing how active they are.
Mjay, how many tanks do you have? Wow! I have three.
Thanks Skybaby. Those goldfish are my friends goldfish. She got a new tank because her’s was leaking so until she got it set up I held on to them for her. So they are not in there now, she picked them up. So don’t worry I do know they don’t mix. I test my water once a week. I will never use ph buffers unless the ph are unstable. NO CHEMICLES unless absolutely necessary. Sop the five loaches have the 75 gallon to themselves now.
Thanks I will let you know if I need advice. But I do have one question. I know loaches are super prone to ick so how often do they get ick. Every time you clean the tank, add a new fish? Are you supposed to medicate every time you do something to the tank or just when ever you see the ick?
The best way to prevent ick is to keep the water very clean and quarantine new fish in a separate tank, using a separate set of supplies. You don't need to treat them unless they're obviously ill. Just keep an eye on them in the separate tank for about 2 weeks, some say 4-5 weeks is best.
I hope your tank is cycled. It will cycle itself with your fish in it, but the water goes through such large fluctuations of ammonia and nitrite and nitrate that it may hurt your fish. If your tank isn't cycled, I recommend getting a smaller tank for them for the time being that you can do larger water changes on until your 75 gallon is cycled. If it is cycled, you're doing everything right so far. Caring for a cycled tank is easy. 25% water changes once every 5-7 days.
Ich can be treated with a dose of aquarium salt. Just follow the directions on the carton. Try to catch the ich in its earliest stages.
http://www.ultimatebettas.com/
This link is to a very helpful fish forum. It's more dedicated to bettas, but they have all sorts of other fish on there too. Have fun!
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:15 pm
by xx_sheena_xx
i have two clown loach's.
there kinda getting big now, i love them.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:46 am
by U.S Marine
Getting Ick sucks, it killed my entire tank.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:20 am
by Deano
I used to have a few clown loach's in a tank i had a while ago, it was the only fish i could put in there that the oscars wouldnt eat, cause of the loach's barbs
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:15 pm
by julie
We have a clown loach in a tank with 1 oscar , 1 blue acara and a electric blue. The loach was thought to be dead several times because of the way they sleep, it often lays on it's side with it's head resting on a rock , like a pillow .I'm thinking about getting a few more for that tank .
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:37 pm
by pinkdevil
julie wrote: The loach was thought to be dead several times because of the way they sleep, it often lays on it's side with it's head resting on a rock , like a pillow
Awww....that sounds so cute. I want one now. lol
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:58 pm
by bec
Deano wrote:I used to have a few clown loach's in a tank i had a while ago, it was the only fish i could put in there that the oscars wouldnt eat, cause of the loach's barbs
i read that too so i tried loaches in with my oscar dextor but he ate them any way

i told my dad who has been breeding fish for about 50 years dads reply:
"well of course what you read wont work !! dont you know fish cant read?!"
dad speak for what the books say is the general rule there are always exceptions to the general rule

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:55 pm
by julie
bec wrote:Deano wrote:I used to have a few clown loach's in a tank i had a while ago, it was the only fish i could put in there that the oscars wouldnt eat, cause of the loach's barbs
i read that too so i tried loaches in with my oscar dextor but he ate them any way

i told my dad who has been breeding fish for about 50 years dads reply:
"well of course what you read wont work !! dont you know fish cant read?!"
dad speak for what the books say is the general rule there are always exceptions to the general rule

Barbs on clown loaches? Are we talking about the same fish?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:01 pm
by bec
yep clown loaches have poisonous barbs in their fins its a defence for them corydoras catfish have them too
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:53 am
by julie
cool , I didn't know that before. I think my Oscar is broken, he doesn't try to eat the other fish much. They recently died but I had breeding bristle noses in the tank too.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:01 am
by julie
pinkdevil wrote:julie wrote: The loach was thought to be dead several times because of the way they sleep, it often lays on it's side with it's head resting on a rock , like a pillow
Awww....that sounds so cute. I want one now. lol
someone actually got them on video doing it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udMK76w7w6A
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:21 am
by Mjay
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:13 am
by bec
yeah oscars are the coolest fish!!!
my dextor used to dance to certain songs and rush to the side of the tank to greet me with his tail wagging like a puppy and he loved!!!!!belly rubs
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:42 am
by julie
I have 2 tiger Oscars, but they are in different tanks. The one that is by itself is a fish killer. The one in the tank with the other fish follows us around, the tank is a room divider so it can see us whenever we are in the lounge room.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:47 am
by julie
here is a old pic of my tank, the oscar is heaps bigger and slower now.
