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Please Help

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:56 pm
by Tallis
These are about 2 - 2 1/2 years old
These are about 2 - 2 1/2 years old
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Her head is much whiter then the pic shows
Her head is much whiter then the pic shows
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Hi All
How would you class there's bird's.

Re: Please Help

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:48 am
by Tallis
Anyone?

Re: Please Help

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:17 am
by Kimma
Well, the first one looks like a grey - greygreen and blue mutations.

For the second one I am guessing because I don't have much experience with this, but it looks like it might be a cinnamon blue. The flight feathers seem brownish (the cinammon) and it doesn't look like it has any yellow in it at all (the blue).

But cinammon doesn't reduce the amount of pigment, whereas the pallid mutation does. So perhaps it's got that... does it look brownish in person?

Clearhead will give a light/white head, but I think it has quite a sharp line for where the white stops... just at the ring on it's neck.

The fallow mutation will also change the grey pigment to brown or grey-brown, and it does look a lot like cinnamon, but cinnamon is sex-linked and fallow is recessive. So you can tell them apart by looking at the parents.

It's also possible that it's pallid and cinnamon at the same time.

Re: Please Help

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:30 am
by trabots
I go Grey and Cinnamon Blue

Re: Please Help

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:12 am
by Tallis
Thanks to Kimma and trabots for there reply, I to was leaning towards cinnamon blue for the hen bird the cock bird, the owner said that the grey parents the mother was blue split and the father was grey split. Going to be interesting what color the baby's will be. :D :D

Re: Please Help

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:15 pm
by Kimma
Testing out my neophyte knowledge of IRN genetics...

since the cock is single factor for greygreen the babies will be

cocks
25% grey
25% blue
25% grey /cinnamon
25% blue /cinnamon

hens
50% grey
50% blue

Re: Please Help

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:05 pm
by Ring0Neck
There is no grey green in your pics.
Male is Grey (or grey blue for the gen calc)
hen Cinnamon Blue

Re: Please Help

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:33 pm
by Skyes_crew
Babies would be

Male- 50% grey blue 50% blue - both split for cinnamon
Females 50% grey blue 50% blue


The grey blues visually are grey, but input as grey blue on the gen calc :D

Re: Please Help

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:11 pm
by Kimma
I have been reading up on parrot mutations in general, and he was using the term greygreen to refer to the mutation that removes structural colour. I didn't realise that in IRNs that's just called grey. I'll use grey now for that mutation.

Sory for any confusion Tallis.