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Hi Molossus,

offspring of cleartail produce this effect

Clearly not the case with this bird.
Have you bred with your bird? anything unusual about the offspring? do offspring get the albinistic feet?

83IV

Hi Ben,

Do not "close" this interesting case. Some thoughts: edge mutation keeps melanin at the outer parts of the feathers and show a decrease in melanin inside the feathers producing the edged pattern, typically in the wing feathers .... why it is just the opposite in melanin distribution in the nails? In your friends pics we can see that the tip of the nails are ligther than the basal parts. Is nails growth different than feathers growth?
We know that in feathers the first parts to be produced are the distal and outer parts. Is it similar in birds nails? Has anybody looked at the nails colour of edged babies trying to understand how melanin is deposited? Are they initially black and thereafter they lighten while growing or are they initially white and they darken while growing?

And this does not answer the case of the completelly albinistic nails of your bird. Could your bird carry another mutation, even recessive, able to decrease melanin? A mutation classed as recessive could become apparent in the split bird if there are other mutations already decreasing melanin content. I own a young green male double split clearhead fallow and cinnamon (father green Clearhead and mother green Cinnamon split Blue) which is lighther than any other of my green youngs making me think that neither Clearhead Fallow nor Cinnamon are true recessive mutations but rather incomplete dominant, as most of the mutations.

Regards

Recio

Ring0Neck wrote:Just an update:

Went to see the breeder where this bird originates from and got the clue i was looking for, so i guess "case closed".

The hen below is from the same nest
http://parakeet.me/irn/f/edge/grnwingta.jpg

& this hen

http://parakeet.me/irn/f/edge/sib1.jpg
nice colors on the tail
http://parakeet.me/irn/f/edge/viogrnft.jpg

Sorry but i can't see any edged bird on These pics.

SL Edged violetgreen and green:

Hi Ben

Could we see some pics of that female with a focus on feet, wing and tail feathers?
I have a problem with Cinnamon nails since they have been described ligth as well as dark. Is there really a specific nails colour in Cinnamon mutation?

You said : "If it wasn't for the nails, i wouldn't have paid much attention to her, as we expect to get slight variations in color]" ... but a Cinnamon hen is readily visible !!!

Regards

Recio

Ring0Neck wrote: (he was not split blue)

Hm. Could be the truth. But judging from only one nest isn't the best solution.
Perhaps the breeder was unlucky for that specific season.

madas

Ring0Neck wrote:Well, i travelled over 50km to pick this up, for that single reason the nails in the pics shown attracted my attention.

Obsessed I tell you.

Ring0Neck wrote:I would have used "Infatuated" -
... is it that obvious?

I would say I'm infatuated about good red wine. Mutation breeding, however, is much more serious than that!