Green Opaline Pied

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Mikesringnecks
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Green Opaline Pied

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Hi all
Had a query from one of the forum watchers. Can anyone please post a pic of a Green Opaline Pied. I'm no use, I don't have pieds.
Kind regards
Mike
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Re: Green Opaline Pied

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Recessive or Dominant Pied ?
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Hi Mike
I don't have Opaline, but a starting point could be a Green Dominant pied Cock I breed in 2012.
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Re: Green Opaline Pied

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Opaline Recessive Pied

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Prodigy, Jurgen has that bird labeled as a dominant pied in Facebook. And it looks like one too. Did he say it is something else?
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whoops wrong pic, correct one up now
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Hi Prodigy
That picture of the green dominant pied Mature cock looked great. If my 2012 green dominant pied matures like him I will be very happy.
Attached is a picture of his parents and there 2012 and 2013 nests.
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Re: Green Opaline Pied

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I guess everyone is asking in hope that they have Opaline in their Pieds.

We can all dream but this is so easy to answer

From a Harlequin Opaline male you should breed Opaline hens with & without pieds.


When you breed one Opaline hen then you have confirmation of the pied being Opaline.
Accept the fact that Harlequins have a head same as Opaline

If Opalines were in abundance and would cost $50ea no one would say my pied might have opalines.
so we can see why we think like this

All i'm saying Phenotype is not the way to identify but breeding results !

Hope we can see some Opalines bred from pieds, it would be a nice bonus.
I keep an eye on pieds offspring too :D

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When you breed one Opaline hen then you have confirmation of the pied being Opaline.
Accept the fact that Harlequins have a head same as Opaline
How can you say that Ben when you haven't explored the alternate hypothesis that Opaline and Harlequin are just variants of the same mutation? Recio, Johan??
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Re: Green Opaline Pied

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A more useful Question:

What is the phenotype of a Harlequin SL Edged?

Now whoever answers that adds valuable data everyone can use.

I paired up an SL Edged X Harlequin
unfortunately no pieds offspring this year.


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Re: Green Opaline Pied

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Forum

Sorry not green opaline pied but blue opaline adm pied and grey turq opaline adm pied

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To be opaline they must be hens, but it is from an opaline pied combination bred by a friend of mine.

Tienie
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How can you say that Ben when you haven't explored the alternate hypothesis that Opaline and Harlequin are just variants of the same mutation? Recio, Johan??
:wink:

I forgot something
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Re: Green Opaline Pied

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prodigy wrote:Opaline Recessive Pied

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Please can you repost the pic of the com pied of Jürgen? thx.
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trabots wrote:
How can you say that Ben when you haven't explored the alternate hypothesis that Opaline and Harlequin are just variants of the same mutation? Recio, Johan??
:wink:

I forgot something
Willy, I asked that exact same question! :wink: And it turns out my opalines breed with a sex-linked recessive inheritance model. I do not have a harlequin though. Do you think we can confirm it as incomplete dominant from existing breeding results in Oz yet? :D
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Johan, do me a big favour and just answer me in the other thread.
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Re: Green Opaline Pied

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Jurgen's Pied
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Re: Green Opaline Pied

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prodigy wrote:Image

Jurgen's Pied
So what is your opinion regarding the color of the neckring? I thought dom. pieds have a grey neckring and not a black one. So is your first assumption "opalin rec. pied" correct???

thx.
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Madas, the orange neck ring was the first thing I noticed on the bird.
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Re: Green Opaline Pied

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Carr.birds wrote:Forum

Sorry not green opaline pied but blue opaline adm pied and grey turq opaline adm pied

Image

Image

To be opaline they must be hens, but it is from an opaline pied combination bred by a friend of mine.

Tienie

Tienie can you confirm that florescence on the birds or was a flash used to take the photo's ?
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