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nope not forgetting- that bird was determined to be a cock by some members of the board (and myself)Ring0Neck wrote:Shey,
if the older bird is a hen then you're forgetting hen's edged phenotype is same as a df edged male.
ThanksSkyes_crew wrote:Those grey green edged babies are so beautiful.
She has had it since a chick, and seems a male sibling in another household has it too, yes she moulted once last year and once this year and it only seems to have increased with moults... I thought stress barring too, but she is a happy well adjusted bird, with plenty of time out the cage, and never shows any signs of anything to stress her out...Skyes_crew wrote:I'd have a hard time letting go of either of them![]()
SCB22...it looks like stress barring or maybe damage to the feather structure. Has she had her year old molt yet? If it doesn't disappear with that, then I have no idea.
OP hen's true colours are finally being revealed- and (Ben & Johan) finally a shot of her flights!
Ring0Neck wrote:OP hen's true colours are finally being revealed- and (Ben & Johan) finally a shot of her flights!
Sky,
Are you talking about me or Johan?![]()
Bird is a she ;)
Shey,
IYO what is she?
Skyes_crew wrote:Ring0Neck wrote:OP hen's true colours are finally being revealed- and (Ben & Johan) finally a shot of her flights!
Sky,
Are you talking about me or Johan?![]()
Bird is a she ;)
Shey,
IYO what is she?
Ring0Neck wrote:OP hen's true colours are finally being revealed- and (Ben & Johan) finally a shot of her flights!
Sky,
Are you talking about me or Johan?![]()
Bird is a she ;)
Shey,
IYO what is she?
Ring0Neck wrote:Nice shots
Ben,but then, the pic of your chick would be irrelevant..? ps- my chick and intheair's chick are of the same age just about-Ring0Neck wrote:... of the same ageRing0Neck wrote: {bare in mind this (being SL Edged) is the only mutation in IRNs where females look different (lighter) then sf males}.
I have asked another edged breeder about my chick, and they have said that sf males are slightly lighter than Wildtype, not much difference between them- which is inline with what we already know.
I have asked to see a pic of his Green sf edged cock in together with a Wildtype so I could see a comparison between his- I am yet to see this difference (whatever it is) from a different bloodline.
let's discuss over here- so not to take away from Clare's thread
those newer feathers are very similar in shade/colour to her 3 month old son's-- speaking of which, does anyone know if SL Edge darkens with age?
I agree with this. Lots of variation in SF edged males.sheyd wrote:So it seems we get some sf cocks extremely diluted and others in-between, others that look almost normal.
Maybe alleles of the same locus??? Remember here in Germany we a breeder who is owning birds which look and inherit like "SL Edged" birds but he still believes both mutations are different. I will start a new topic about it then i have some more freetime. Pics could be find here: http://www.indianringneck.com/forum/vie ... 50#p103873Johan S wrote:We have two lines, two fairly well marked male birds, and some males from a decent looking hen, yet her sons aren't that well marked. Tienie is the person to speak to regarding variation, he has a huge collection of edged birds compared to ours.
Stefan, I have recently wondered this myselfMaybe alleles of the same locus???
Shey, it's not entirely impossible. I have wondered the same thing in the past. And from discussions with other breeders, they have also started noticing that dfDark and even sfDark reduces the effect. Having said that, I've seen a sfDark edged bird at a friend that I was sure was a female since it was very well marked. Turns out to be a male. And we haven't had young edged males that we kept back until these mauve birds, so I haven't seen the effect of aging on edged first hand either.sheyd wrote:Johan- I wonder if it's possible that dfDark may have an erasing effect on edged- meaning that it can't display/display as it normally would?
I think of edged as having two components- markings and dilution- so 'scalloping' falls under the markings category for me- I look at markings second to dilution.Ring0Neck wrote:Shey,
That's a DF SL Edged Cinnamon Blue male.
We get scalloping effect on:
DF Edged Cinnamon males
EF Edged Cinnamon hens
as far as I know df cocks don't moult into their heads later- say like a CT. - I'm not dismissing the idea of the youngster being df- right now he doesn't fit into that model.. like I said before- I thought for sure he was a hen- until I saw updated pics of him and his ring forming.Ring0Neck wrote:Shey.
I would wait till all birds are finished moulting to see the real phenotype.