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- Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:04 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: **** URGENT ALL South African Breeders ****
- Replies: 70
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Re: **** URGENT ALL South African Breeders ****
Wow but the typo in Louis Bothma's letter is beyond terrible!
- Sun May 25, 2014 3:42 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is this dark Violet?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 12258
Re: What is this dark Violet?
madas wrote:
it must be a "blue series" bird because the tail and main flights are white. This is not the case for a "greygreen".
madas
Could be the effect of the Harlequin mutation.
Deon
- Sun May 25, 2014 3:14 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is this dark Violet?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 12258
Re: What is this dark Violet?
But this cannot be. Can this be a Grey TurqTurq Harlequin?
Deon
Deon
- Sun May 25, 2014 3:10 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is this dark Violet?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 12258
Re: What is this dark Violet?
madas wrote: Not turqBlue Harlequin but Grey turqBlue Harlequin. two distinct birds as you can see.
Madas this must be a Greygreen TurqBlue Harlequin, given the wide, even distribution of psittacins in its base coloration.
Deon
- Sun May 25, 2014 1:37 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is this dark Violet?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 12258
Re: What is this dark Violet?
These are awesome birds with crystal-clear, sharp colour definition. If one looks a little closer, the two layers of yellow psittacin is visible, one incorporated in the base colour, and then the sharply delineated foreground layer of a very bright sunflower-yellow brilliance, warm and rich. I would...
- Wed May 21, 2014 7:01 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 11330
Re: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
Thank you Johan, this is what I was seeking.
What is your observation, in these saddle types, of the presence of parblue coloration while till in the nest, and its evolution further on?
Deon
What is your observation, in these saddle types, of the presence of parblue coloration while till in the nest, and its evolution further on?
Deon
- Wed May 21, 2014 12:04 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 11330
Re: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
Regarding the parblues, I don't think they are that rare. Johan, I was actually referring to the rarity of Parblue offspring from a saddleback morph, like the Violet Parblues we have seen in the pictures of Bob Irvine. Of huge interest to me, is the parblues with the central concentrated psittacins...
- Mon May 19, 2014 8:33 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 11330
Re: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
To crack this code will take a lot of sensible breeding and collation. In my humble view, a Saddleback is a certain morph, it's not a mutation per se but is probably a combo, of a Dom Pied with a certain pied pattern, combined with a Parblue. But what Parblue, and why is the percentage of Parblue (u...
- Mon May 19, 2014 7:51 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Who will step up and take a chance : is it Emerald?
- Replies: 1
- Views: 1478
Re: Who will step up and take a chance : is it Emerald?
Lee
Where is your UV torch? This may be a far-reaching, ground-breaking finding.
Deon
Where is your UV torch? This may be a far-reaching, ground-breaking finding.
Deon
- Mon May 19, 2014 7:09 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is this dark Violet?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 12258
Re: What is this dark Violet?
Stefan I am open-minded and gathering data, would like to see these subjects
- Sun May 18, 2014 2:10 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is this dark Violet?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 12258
Re: What is this dark Violet?
Concerning the richness of color in the offspring dp's... the blue isnt a Deep. the green bird reminds me of the statement made by Chris Whipps concerning the brightness of the saddleback ... prompting the suggestion that it is a 'different parblue'. Is the richness of color manifested in dps a res...
- Sat May 17, 2014 10:54 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is this dark Violet?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 12258
Re: What is this dark Violet?
William Stobart reminded me of the image below, taken 2 years ago, of the same hen on the introductory image on the left, together with her sister and thus from the same gene-pool mix. There is a clear colour difference, with the one on the right darker, more matt, lacking the gloss of the one left,...
- Sat May 17, 2014 10:10 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is this dark Violet?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 12258
Re: What is this dark Violet?
When I visited Hans in the early 2000's I was impressed with the extreme level of darkness his Darkgreens and Cobalts display. At the time the deep factor had not been identified but I guess it must have ridden along when he (unknowingly) imported the Dark Factor. But some of these dark birds had an...
- Sat May 17, 2014 7:29 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is this dark Violet?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 12258
Re: What is this dark Violet?
Johan The youngster is a new acquisition from Hans Meyer's collection, I acquired it to try and strengthen my own gene pool's melanistic factor and deep gene. On close observation, she appears to have a violet sheen to the body but with cobalt-like wings, I cannot capture this. Lee Here is a recent ...
- Fri May 16, 2014 11:56 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is this dark Violet?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 12258
Re: What is this dark Violet?
Guys Especially the Green juvenile hen has evolved spectacularly with an uncanny bright yellow, much more than I have ever seen in a green series DP, she is only 6 mnths old now. I cannot find a scientific explanation amongst the structural colours. This is a cellphone photo. Deon Violetgreen DP.jpg
- Fri May 16, 2014 11:47 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is this dark Violet?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 12258
Re: What is this dark Violet?
Thanks Stefan.
In a pairing to a Green DP/blue, she mothered a magnificent clutch of youngsters. Would the Blue be suggestive of a Deep Blue DP?
In a pairing to a Green DP/blue, she mothered a magnificent clutch of youngsters. Would the Blue be suggestive of a Deep Blue DP?
- Fri May 16, 2014 1:13 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is this dark Violet?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 12258
What is this dark Violet?
Hi guys I want to share this image with you and invite opinions on the genotype of the 3 year old. She cannot be DF Violet. Does Violet Deep (Cobalt) really produce such as rich, intense colour Please view the image below. On the right is a 2013 Cobalt Violet hen, and the left shows her aunt of 3 ye...
- Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:10 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Harlequins
- Replies: 25
- Views: 8963
Re: Harlequins
This is a most stunning bird. Any guesses as to its genotype?
Deon Smith
Deon Smith
- Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:07 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Harlequins
- Replies: 25
- Views: 8963
Re: Harlequins
The 4th juvenile is a combo Violetgreen and Deep and or Dark
The mother:
The mother:
- Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:12 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 102236
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Could we deduce from above that Homozygous Parblues won't vary in their phenotype?[/quote] The Parblues used to be quite variant in parblue expression even the homozygous ones. But there has been quite a development with the Parblues in S.A. at least; the modern ones getting greener and more stable...
- Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:06 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Harlequins
- Replies: 25
- Views: 8963
Re: Harlequins
Recio I believe its good to give people time to consider what they see and try to work out its genotype. This nest was bred from a Green Harlequin but possibly Violetgreen cock. It is not easy to identify a Violetgreen Harlequin due to the general dilution as you will see on the images, even a Blue ...
- Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:29 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 102236
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Recio, the younsters are EmeraldTurquoise Opaline hens on the outsides, 2nd juvenile EmeraldBlue/opaline cock, and the third one from the left EmeraldBlue Opaline hen. The 100KB limitation on posting size cause loss of definition, so the following high resolution downloads are worthwhile. The last i...
- Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:05 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 102236
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Father a TurqBlue Opaline on the left, the mother Emerald Blue or Emerald on the far right
- Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:55 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 102236
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Emerald TurquoiseBlue Opaline
- Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:52 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 102236
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Emerald Blue Opaline
- Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:46 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 102236
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
I have been away from the forum for a while and must surely have missed a lot. There are a couple of aspects about the Emerald Question I want to give my view. The sayings about blue series and green series: If we stick to the general consensus that Emerald is a recessive allele of the blue locus, t...
- Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:52 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 102236
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Ring0Neck Please ask Aaron for an image of the green bird that bred the Violet Emerald. Please ask him about the breeding history, what was the green parent's parents, what else were bred from the original Emerald pairing, and what were bred from the Green bird. Gratz It is very easy and quick to id...
- Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:44 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Harlequins
- Replies: 25
- Views: 8963
Re: Harlequins
I am struggling with the 100KB limitation, Stefan how do you insucceed 200KB sized images?
- Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:50 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 102236
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Vic the exact date or time period of its first appearance might be invaluable to assist, my info states that Emerald did not enter Oz at the same time as Harlequin and Opaline
Deon Smith
Deon Smith
- Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:28 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 102236
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Recio, note that the last 2 images are of a Blue Emerald Opaline.
Deon
Deon
- Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:26 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 102236
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
0018 Dorsal view
0025 Ventral view
0025 Ventral view
- Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:11 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 102236
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Attached a view of the ventral surface's fluorescence. Due to KB restrictions I will stay with this.
- Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:24 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 102236
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Sorry about that. Emerald capturing on photos is not easy due to colour distortion, especially by the action of modern digital cameras. Black and white backgrounds causes a lot of colour distortion, blue seems better but outside, natural white light in bright shade seems to be best. I am however exp...
- Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:38 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 102236
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Photographing Emeralds is not an easy task, as background colour plays a major modifying role with the modern digital cameras. Black and White
- Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:37 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Harlequins
- Replies: 25
- Views: 8963
Harlequins
A nest of youngsters, soothing to the eye
Deon Smith
Deon Smith
- Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:09 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep and Emerald
- Replies: 239
- Views: 64578
Re: Deep and Emerald
Lee said: Deon based on Madas statement that the ground color is "a step" darker your suggestion appears contradictory. my experience with misty is that this mutation lightens green and blue I don't think we can describe this mutation in conventional terms of paleness or darkness, as iride...
- Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:50 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep and Emerald
- Replies: 239
- Views: 64578
Re: Deep and Emerald
This specific picture was taken from the Web.
Deon
Deon
- Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:08 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep and Emerald
- Replies: 239
- Views: 64578
Re: Deep and Emerald
My idea of a Khaki TurqBlue comes from life itself.
I'll get an image tomorrow.
Deon
I'll get an image tomorrow.
Deon
- Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:28 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep and Emerald
- Replies: 239
- Views: 64578
Re: Deep and Emerald
Madas
Could your bird be a SF Khaki Parblue?
Deon
Could your bird be a SF Khaki Parblue?
Deon
- Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:21 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: New book
- Replies: 18
- Views: 4158
Re: New book
Recio and other guys The sentence that Recio highlighted came from the very first Genetics-Made-Easy from 1997, it was taken from a website somewhere. Whether it was based on microscopy, peer-reviewed, or whether assumed, remains the question. At the time the only well-known structural mutation was ...
- Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:37 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: New book
- Replies: 18
- Views: 4158
Re: New book
Yes guys, its finally done, I even had to make some latter-days adaptations and added many quality pics,- 170 pages 197 pictures.
I tried my best - Emerald, Dom Pied, Saddleback and all.
Hope you like it and find something there.
Deon Smith
I tried my best - Emerald, Dom Pied, Saddleback and all.
Hope you like it and find something there.
Deon Smith
- Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:20 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Olive ? Violet
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2768
Re: Olive ? Violet
Still struggling to upload images, but I will post it to Skydrive and try from there.
Otherwise I must send 10 postings.
Deon
Otherwise I must send 10 postings.
Deon
- Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:05 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Olive ? Violet
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2768
Re: Olive ? Violet
Sorry I get a note that the quota has been reached for attachments, but its only 145KB.
Have contacted Madas.
Deon
Have contacted Madas.
Deon
- Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:24 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Olive ? Violet
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2768
Olive ? Violet
Hi guys, Deon Smith from S.A.
Comments on this Olive. Do you think there is Violet in it as well?
It was bred from a Darkgreen Violetgreen/ADM/blue X Darkgreen ADM/blue
Deon
Comments on this Olive. Do you think there is Violet in it as well?
It was bred from a Darkgreen Violetgreen/ADM/blue X Darkgreen ADM/blue
Deon
- Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:54 am
- Forum: Introduce Yourself!
- Topic: Introduction
- Replies: 1
- Views: 739
Introduction
Hi guys I want to introduce myself as a avicultural hobbyist in South Africa, breeding Amazon Parrots, Golden Parrots, Ringneck mutations with special interest in the genetics involved in what we see and why, trying to understand mutations and following specific breeding programs to reach an evidenc...