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by sheyd
Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:20 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep
Replies: 45
Views: 83292

Re: Deep

Hi Mike, congrats on your first Deeps. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Deep Green in your nest, as there are quite a few variations about- some even look seemingly Wildtype.

How're your red eyed chicks going? :)
by sheyd
Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:08 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep
Replies: 45
Views: 83292

Re: Deep

Hi all, was meaning to post before now, but he's definitely not a Violet Cobalt. Only way to describe his colour to someone without them seeing him in person, is that he is a better overall colour (deeper, richer) than a cobalt. I will probably pair to Blue or Dark Blue next year to see if I get any...
by sheyd
Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:12 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep
Replies: 45
Views: 83292

Re: Deep

Hi Shey, Good to hear from you. That's a very nice bird you have there. He had some nice depth of colour about him. Certainly hard to pick, but definitely dark and as you say possibly something more. I don't think violet is involved here. What is his background? You definitely have to do some more ...
by sheyd
Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:55 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep
Replies: 45
Views: 83292

Re: Deep

pic

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by sheyd
Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:44 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Bird Colouring and matching for mating
Replies: 2
Views: 2833

Re: Bird Colouring and matching for mating

Looks like a hen I have here who I believe to be carrying also Cinnamon- I'd say yours is a Green Cinnamon SL Edge
by sheyd
Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:42 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep
Replies: 45
Views: 83292

Re: Deep

Kappa, your Violet hen reminds me of a cock I bred last season- matches neither a Violet(sf) or a Dark(sf) Blue- I and another speculate that he could actually be a Dark Deep Blue.
by sheyd
Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:34 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: cinnamon cleartail
Replies: 4
Views: 4067

Re: cleartail sf grey

Definately not Grey. Looks Cinnamon Green- unsure if also CT- pity it died
by sheyd
Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:16 pm
Forum: IRN Photo Forum
Topic: Day by Day- photo diary
Replies: 7
Views: 6932

Re: Day by Day- photo diary

sun pics- are the most accurate on actual colour (excuse the corn on everybody's beaks lol) chicks 1 & 3 http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETBLUECHICKS152_zps0447defb.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETBLUECHICKS154_zps0b604a0f.jpg chick 1 http://i920.p...
by sheyd
Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:28 pm
Forum: IRN Photo Forum
Topic: Day by Day- photo diary
Replies: 7
Views: 6932

Re: Day by Day- photo diary

Thankyou Melika :) some updated pics of the two parent raised chicks- Violet Cobalt or DF Violet and Cobalt (chicks 1 & 3) (10 weeks) http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETBLUECHICKS145_zps38417d25.jpg (11 weeks) http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETBLUECHICKS1...
by sheyd
Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:48 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Lutino Cinnamon/blue
Replies: 10
Views: 7265

Re: Lutino Cinnamon/blue

can you post some pics?
by sheyd
Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:32 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged
Replies: 273
Views: 2663982

Re: SL Edged

All chicks with light nails would point to male being DF. yes, that's what it's looking like so far. I've just checked, and two of the chicks are Green (tipping one cock and one hen due to nails)- the last which is a few days younger is not showing any colouring at all. Will be interesting to compa...
by sheyd
Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:47 pm
Forum: IRN Photo Forum
Topic: Day by Day- photo diary
Replies: 7
Views: 6932

Re: Day by Day- photo diary

Chicks 2 & 4 (Violetsf Blues) were sent off for handrearing at 41 & 38 days old, chicks 1 & 3 (Violetsf Darksf Blue or Violetdf Blue & Darksf Blue) and the were left with their parents Update- at 49 days old the Darksf Blue fledged, followed by the Violetsf Darksf or Violetdf Blue a ...
by sheyd
Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:37 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged
Replies: 273
Views: 2663982

Re: SL Edged

Update:
3/3 eggs have hatched- all appear to have dark (normal) eyes. Now to wait and see how they feather- any non edged will be dna sexed- time couldn't go slower.
update
chicks are a couple of weeks and a few days old now- all have light nails- tipping all to be edged at this stage
by sheyd
Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:34 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Help on what color this is
Replies: 2
Views: 2896

Re: Help on what color this is

can send to me if you like- cannonboy (at) bigpond.com
by sheyd
Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:33 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Albino Cock x Lutino Hen resulted in 4 lutinos and 1 albino
Replies: 2
Views: 3177

Re: Albino Cock x Lutino Hen resulted in 4 lutinos and 1 alb

Edit: Further research leads me to think that my lutino female is actually lutino/blue so my chicks are female or male lutino/ blue and female or male Albino. Can anyone confirm if my thinking is right?
That's right :D
by sheyd
Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:42 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Genetics Question
Replies: 3
Views: 32830

Re: Genetics Question

Hi Jordan, sorry for my late reply.

The Blue cock is split to Ino, and the hen is a Creamino (TurquoiseBlue Ino), so all will need to be dna'd sexed.
by sheyd
Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:49 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Genetics Question
Replies: 3
Views: 32830

Re: Genetics Question

can you post pics of the parents and offspring? there are many mutations that create red eyes- the most commonest are the sex-linked mutations, so your chicks could be Ino's, Pallid's or Cinnamon's- if the chicks are Ino's then you'll have to dna sex them, but if they are Pallids or Cinnamons they w...
by sheyd
Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:14 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged
Replies: 273
Views: 2663982

Re: SL Edged

That's great news, Shey. Would be interesting to see what they produce. For anyone still following this cock, he and his hen (Wildtype Green) are sitting on 3 eggs- due to hatch around 22nd Oct Thanks Johan :) Update: 3/3 eggs have hatched- all appear to have dark (normal) eyes. Now to wait and see...
by sheyd
Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:48 am
Forum: Breeding IRNs
Topic: WE HAVE EGGS!!
Replies: 50
Views: 61696

Re: WE HAVE EGGS!!

They're looking great Deb! :D
by sheyd
Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:08 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

Johan S wrote:Those are very good looking, healthy youngsters. Looks like fantastic parents.
Thanks Johan :D
by sheyd
Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:08 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETGREENCHICKS72_zps9fd15bf0.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETGREENCHICKS75_zps78e66257.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETGREENCHICKS80_zps4cd5da49.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/Shey...
by sheyd
Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:50 pm
Forum: IRN Photo Forum
Topic: Day by Day- photo diary
Replies: 7
Views: 6932

Re: Day by Day- photo diary

willowisp71 wrote:Very nice, Shey :D Looking forward to seeing them fully feathered :)
Thanks Deb- and me too :)
AJPeter wrote:That's four!
yes..? :lol:
by sheyd
Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:36 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

Thought I'd share an update- as of yesterday all chicks have fully fledged.

Image

more pics will follow..
by sheyd
Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:13 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?
Replies: 50
Views: 168947

Re: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?

Recio wrote:Positif answer :P . I will send the flightfeathers tomorrow.

Recio
Great news! :D
by sheyd
Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:11 pm
Forum: IRN Photo Forum
Topic: Day by Day- photo diary
Replies: 7
Views: 6932

Day by Day- photo diary

Thought I'd do one pic a day (pending on weather conditions) everyday of a clutch of 4 chicks colouring up till fully feathered. - 4th chick will be added once it starts to show colour The chicks mutations are: chick 1-Violetdf Blue or Violetsf Darksf Blue (Violet Cobalt) chicks 2 & 4-Violetsf B...
by sheyd
Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:50 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged
Replies: 273
Views: 2663982

Re: SL Edged

For anyone still following this cock, he and his hen (Wildtype Green) are sitting on 3 eggs- due to hatch around 22nd Oct
sheyd wrote: Image
by sheyd
Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:47 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged
Replies: 273
Views: 2663982

Re: SL Edged

Nigel, a very nice bird indeed. Can't wait to see that one on the perch :D
by sheyd
Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:43 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?
Replies: 50
Views: 168947

Re: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?

Will be interesting in hearing their response- thanks for sharing
by sheyd
Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:21 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?
Replies: 50
Views: 168947

Re: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?

awhile ago, Recio asked if the melanin on an edged bird was affected by sunlight- I have taken a pic of two feathers today each belonging to nest siblings, kept together in the same conditions- and I can say yes, the edged feather is affected- it has the typical fading outlines just like Cinnamon fe...
by sheyd
Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:50 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

Thankyou both- the differences really are quite subtle.... but then I've been told that sometimes it is hard to pick between a Cobalt and a Violet(sf) Blue even when in the same nest- incidentally from the same line as these chicks. I tried getting a pic of both edged chicks wings together, but sinc...
by sheyd
Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:08 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

Hi Shey, How do they look in person? I don't know if it's the lighting or angle of the photo, however, from the last photo you posted, I would say that they are different. The one on the left is either violet dark green, or dark green. It's definitely darker and has more of a blue sheen, which you ...
by sheyd
Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:59 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

In that case, Kappa got it right. (Very) Roughly 4/5 dark green offspring will be T2 and ready to breed high percentage cobalt and low percentage dark green. There is a small chance (roughly 1/5) that another crossing over occurred (a second crossing over, or decrossing over canceling the first of ...
by sheyd
Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:42 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

6 weeks- violet colouring coming in on rump http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETGREENCHICKS30_zps4b17263b.jpg The two SL Edged cocks- I'm fairly confident both are Violet(sf) Green rather than Dark(sf) Green- but why one is 'greener' than the other has me a bit puzzled- any though...
by sheyd
Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:02 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

Johan S wrote:
sheyd wrote:Thankyou Johan :)

Do you know if she would be considered as T1?
What mutations do the parents carry?
Hi Johan, sire is a Violet(sf) Dark(sf) Blue, and dam is a Green Cinnamon SL Edged
by sheyd
Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:10 pm
Forum: Breeding IRNs
Topic: WE HAVE EGGS!!
Replies: 50
Views: 61696

Re: WE HAVE EGGS!!

Congrats on the fertile eggs :D
by sheyd
Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:45 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

Hi Shey, The importance of /blueT 1 and /blueT2 is more relevant when trying to breed cobalt birds, from green series birds. However, since the sire already has the modified blue gene carrying the dark factor (dark linked to blue), he will pass them on as one. This means she will be a /blueT2. A da...
by sheyd
Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:33 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Wat mutation is this?
Replies: 11
Views: 7568

Re: Wat mutation is this?

Buks V, The cock is a Cinnamon Blue - he has the typical brown feather shafts, light coloured feet and colouring. The hen only appears to be a GreyGreen Cinnamon (no SL Edge)- and that explains the differences in the chicks- one Grey Cinnamon, one Green Cinnamon and one GreyGreen Cinnamon---- you'll...
by sheyd
Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:48 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

Thankyou Johan :) Do you know if she would be considered as T1? edit* actually if I'm correct in my thinking, she would have to be T1, because if she had of gotten a blue gene from her dam, she would have been blue instead of green series- So, she got Dark, Violet and Blue crossed over from her sire...
by sheyd
Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:45 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

Thanks Ben & Madas :D

A recent flight pic-

Image

pic in the nest (with flash)
Image
by sheyd
Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:15 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

Yes, I think its pretty safe to say that she's a Violet(sf) Dark(sf) Green :D with her sires central tail feather http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETGREENCHICKS11_zpsa83427ad.jpg tail comparison with edged brother http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETGREENCHICKS...
by sheyd
Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:28 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?
Replies: 50
Views: 168947

Re: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?

Thank you Johan- and that is what I had thought. I still think that SL Edged birds definitely split to Cinnamon and thought to be, as well as birds thought to be visual Cinnamon SL Edged need to be investigated closer- ie are split birds the same phenotypically as visuals? Next year, I'll be pairing...
by sheyd
Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:17 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet green or Dark green ?
Replies: 22
Views: 9116

Re: Violet green or Dark green ?

*Old thread* Hi Gratz, Did you end up finding out the exact makeup of the parents of op bird? I find it interesting that both brothers are of different phenotypes (excluding sl edged). It has made me wonder if the sire was a combination of the two types of Violet (df violet), thus passing on either ...
by sheyd
Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:00 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?
Replies: 50
Views: 168947

Re: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?

The whole thread is beyond me... but I've been thinking....


If SL Edged and Cinnamon were alleles on the same locus, then could a bird that was carrying both (mutations) pass on both at once to its offspring?
by sheyd
Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:11 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

today's pics 4 weeks, 2 days- still looking like a Violet Dark possibility? http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETGREENHEN6_zps84b4fd93.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETGREENHEN7_zpsa4899652.jpg I realize it might be hard going just by a single bird, so I'l...
by sheyd
Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:35 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETGREENHEN_zps96c2a4f4.jpg Interesting color of the downs. Very dark grey. But could be the pic. I noticed it too in when I uploaded the pics- I cannot recall what colour it actually really is, but will have a good look tomorrow. It could well ju...
by sheyd
Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:31 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

Thankyou both for your replies. I was also thinking that, going by the colour of the central tail feather, that she might be more than just Violet(sf) Green or Dark(sf)Green. Madas, yes they can only be my possibilities. The dam carries neither Dark nor Violet. The sire must be a Dark(sf) Violet(sf)...
by sheyd
Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:17 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 39771

Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?

Hi all, Hope the season is treating you all well :D Does anyone have any of the above chicks in the age bracket of 3-5 weeks for me to compare my chick to? Any thoughts on this chick? (3 weeks, 5 days.) http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/VIOLETGREENHEN_zps96c2a4f4.jpg http://i920.photo...