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yep, I agree with Ringo- it's a Violet SL Edged. They are actually very common- most of the time when you're looking for a true Cinnamon you'll find these instead (wrongly being advertised as such).

I also think that your bird is a cock going by that shot.

sheyd

Albino. Contrary to popular belief, Albino Indian Ringnecks will all end up having blue eyes (irides) and black looking pupils. Of course though they are hatched with red eyes which slowly change over the coming weeks.

Take a pic with a flash- they will be red again

sheyd

any updated pics?

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Yes, just Grey

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Thank you very much for the pics Lee- they are appreciated

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okay- I'll go with Cinnamon- if only they can also have normal coloured edged feet and lower beaks like other non Cinnamon SL Edged birds. as said previously, his feet look like normal edge feet- normal coloured- the horn parts (nails) are grey- and the flesh is grey/brown his lower mandible is dark...

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wing spread (there you go Lee- turns out I didn't need my friend afterall :)) + close up of feather shafts Does anyone have pics of a Cinnamon Grey SL Edge(df or sf)? http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/P1012122_zps55e992ca.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/GreySLEdge...

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Hmm.. My personal experience and studying of Greys is limited since I haven't owned any before this year. I have heard others who say their normal Greys can have a blue through their heads at certain angles and lights- similar to what I have heard for some Dark Blue Greys. -to me he (his head) only...

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hi shey u have me mistaken for some1 else unfortunately the bird was stolen from me and i had no pics of him,i always had bad luck with him he flew away the 1st time and i only got him 6 months later and now his gone or goo ah, nevermind- . What a shame he was taken from you- can never understand w...

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Hi Sherwin(?) yes, keeping well

Any chance of some pics of the bird you had?

Sanzaf1 wrote:hi johan,uncle lee,shey, hope url are doing well

i had a bird that looked very similar ti that but he was not edged
is it possible that this could b a cobalt cinnamon grey edge???

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first egg of the season arrived today

from this pair
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47 ... 62627f.jpg

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Johan S wrote:
sheyd wrote:I agree your hen does look Misty- will you be pairing her up with a normal to see if you are right?
Don't have the space, unfortunately.

Yes, I'm having similar 'issues' lol

Curious/interested? Definitely

I guess you'll all let us know later on down the track anyhow.

sheyd

Hmm.. My personal experience and studying of Greys is limited since I haven't owned any before this year. I have heard others who say their normal Greys can have a blue through their heads at certain angles and lights- similar to what I have heard for some Dark Blue Greys. -to me he (his head) only ...

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Thanks for the pic Ben- do you have anymore of him?

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Maybe you can get him to breed this year? It will give a lot of insight. He is much lighter for sure than the grey sf edged bird with me, so it can either be df edge, sf edge cinnamon or misty edge. I'm sticking with cinnamon, though. :D Blue edged, with a twist. This hen was left out of our breedi...

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Hi Madas, yes same bird. That particular pic was taken early morning and was overcast/rainy- and yes he did look blue in the head when I took that pic-- it however was just the lightning- as he doesn't appear like that in the sunlight- as you can see from the other pics. He has bred both Blue and Gr...

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Here a few more (all pics posted pretty much sums up his colour) http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/greysledged7_zpsf6bc4752.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/6bd4076b-cf33-4fb6-9565-f534d6b10523_zps507b937e.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/SheyDock/ed4894...

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Ben and Lee, I do think it does much depend on the angle on which you view him and also the light- I'm not sure about Misty- (although I wish!) edged birds typically look Misty anyway don't they? The thought of Fusi did cross my mind- but then isn't Fusi inherited the same as SL Edged- it may well e...

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Nice bird, Shey :D What you reckon it is? I'm going with grey cinnamon edged. Thanks Johan :) I'm not sure about Cinnamon, I actually think that he may be a df SL Edged- he has light brown/pink feather shafts (same as my edged hen)- will try and get some good shots of this today- and his body is ve...

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My newest addiction... er addition..

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Hi again, he's a GreyGreen- no Cinnamon

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whimsicalwings wrote:Thank you so much for your responses. I have tried to play with the GenCalc, but I just cannot get the answers I need on this one.

http://www.gencalc.com/gen/eng_genc.php?sp=0PsitIR

On the Gen Calc, tick 'blue' for the cock-
and for the hen tick 'sf Violet', 'blue' and 'dilute'

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rellik81 wrote:say i put one of those to a blue cock ...what colours are likely to come out??

I would dna first.. But if they all turn out to be all hens, to get more Pallids or Cinnamons you'll need visual cocks or those that are split for those mutations.

sheyd

The rachis, flights, feet and lower beak imo tell the true story

Dave Jacas wrote:Hi
The top bird also look pallid.

minnie wrote:Grey pallid. , green pallid. And grey turquoise pallid.

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rellik81 wrote:thankyou ...
how can you tell they are prob all hens??

Because approximately only 25% of all visual SL Recessive mutations such as Pallid and Cinnamon ect are cocks.

sheyd

Hi there, you have a Cinnamon Grey, Green Pallid and TurquoiseGrey Pallid
More than likely all hens

sheyd

The neck ring feathers of a Green cock will come in definite black and rose... The greyish ring you see right now is not indicative of sex.

sheyd

Hi Whimsical,

Assuming no splits,
you would get Violet Blue and Blue all split to Dilute. - do you have any pics of the Dilute Violet Blue hen?

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Mikesringnecks wrote: However, Dilutes are rather rare in Australia

Hi Mike, I wasn't aware/haven't heard that we had Dilutes (mode of inheritance: recessive) here?

sheyd

To me, one appears darker than the other (in the box). No need to take pics individually in the sunlight- that would be taking it to the other side of the extreme. To get a real idea of their varying shades, one needs to have them all within a group shot- like the one taken on the end, but from wher...

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Going by the last pic, left to right, top to bottom: (Birds on the end that is furthest away) dfViolet, sfViolet Blue, (Hen on the perch) sfViolet Blue Pallid, (Birds on the floor) sfViolet Blue, Blue (Cock on the side wire) sfViolet Blue, (Bird on the floor) sfViolet Blue I think you will find that...

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Johan S wrote:Beautiful bird, madas!

seconded

sheyd

Cinnamon or Misty have been known to produce 'coloured' neck rings in Albino cocks

sheyd

I would think only a handful would exist. dfViolet, dfDark Blue (dfViolet Mauve)

I think Johan's attempting this for this season? I imagine it would look much like the sfViolet Mauve

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I agree, Grey Cleartail

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Doesn't look right for a GreyGreen Cinnamon - I would go with just Greygreen .
Can you get get anymore full body shots preferably in natural light- no flash?

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Hens can be split- just not to any sex-linked mutations. Violet and Dark are not recessive mutations, they are dominant, meaning they will 100% express on a bird if they are present- although they can be masked by Ino and Grey these are the only exceptions of where Dark and Violet won't be displayed...

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that's right (the Blue isn't split). Did you have old pics you could send instead? the other option would be to look at other Dark Violet Blues on here and see if your hen and her young matches them. Here is an old thread with some fantastic reference pics of sfViolet Blue, sfDark sfViolet Blue, and...

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Hi, did you have a picture of the hen and her offspring? (can send to me if you like: cannonboy (at) bigpond.com Dark Violet Blue ('violet cobalt') X Blue will give you Blue, Violet Blue, Dark Blue ('cobalt'), and Dark Violet Blue. No Bird can be split for Dark or Violet as both are dominant mutatio...

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At the moment, I only have one pair well and truly interested in each other - the other cocks are still working on impressing their grumpy hens- but still plenty of time- I'm sure they'll get there in the end

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great looking cock bird

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Yeah, so in other words, a Lutino masking Violet

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nice one

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Kislanya wrote:I have a grey green pallid female,if I'm looking at possible breeding in the future would the pallid male be the best match for her?

Yes, if you'd like to breed more Pallids

sheyd

Yes, I can see a difference now- thanks for the pics

sheyd

thanks for the pics, nice birds mate

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I deduce from the above, that they Grey chick carries two recessive Blue genes and at least one dominant Grey genes. It could be of either gender..

Yeah, GreyGreen's are still commonly (but mistakenly) called 'olives' unfortunately some people just call it how they see it.

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Hi Johan, do you have a pic from behind? those two look virtually identical from the front?

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a Blue Pallid (lacewing) is essentially a pale blue looking bird with a white head and usually a white tail.

http://psittacula-world.com/EN/Mutation ... Pallid.htm

the 3 chicks, are they all nest siblings?

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