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- Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:13 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 75467
Re: Saddleback ?
when both birds were placed together they were thought to be on and the same mutation and this can be easily understood as both share some features that would cause this mistake. So this bird is sharing the same features as a dom. pied??? http://pixuria.com/imgs/ffa1ce037ac0a347c367-frist_opaline.j...
- Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:35 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Opaline Cleartail's - Looking for pictures of mature birds
- Replies: 35
- Views: 11009
Re: Opaline Cleartail's - Looking for pictures of mature bir
My friend has quiet a few opaline cleartails both cocks and hens in a variety of colours from cinnamon opaline cleartail to cobalt opaline cleartail he is a specialised breeder that has asked to keep his identity secret So let me guess: it is Chris Smith. :D Most of his opaline cleartails came from...
- Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:53 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald cobalt Dom pied (harlequin)
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2457
Re: Emerald cobalt Dom pied (harlequin)
What problems do you mean? Breeding violet to dark is a necessary step to go on for a violet(df)dark or violet dark(df).mcw-indianringnecks wrote: Breeding violet to cobalt causes problems
Chris
- Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:50 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Harlequins
- Replies: 25
- Views: 8413
Re: Harlequins
So she is carrying turq.mcw-indianringnecks wrote: it could only SF
- Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:05 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Harlequins
- Replies: 25
- Views: 8413
Re: Harlequins
If it was the case she should not be classed as turquoise :?: But if she is double factor turq then where could be some yellow on the main flight and tail feathers. See Willys pic of his homozyguos turq bird. http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s541/Trabots/Trabots%20IRNs/turquoise11.jpg Chris
- Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:42 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: DF Emeralds
- Replies: 47
- Views: 8960
Re: DF Emeralds
The DF Emerold is now getting a neckring at 3yrs old So Recio your theory of emerald being a structual mutation is swiming away. :( Have you ever ask Chris Whipps regarding the age of the DF emerald? If not how can you base your theory of DF emeralds males don't get a neckring on cock of unknown ag...
- Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:03 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 84466
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Chris, maybe have another look? For my money, three opalines and one "normal" cock. :wink: If you zoom in then the second bird from the right could be opaline too. :) So Deon is/was a very, very lucky man. :D But the first offspring identification (bird in the nest) of Deon was two opalin...
- Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:29 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 84466
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Hi Deon, Nice birds. I guess the offspring in the pic are all females, and the brother is not there. I also guess that you have posted it waiting for coments without inducing any idea with your thoughts ... so here I go: Opaline is known to increase the expression of psittacins, so if there were in...
- Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:33 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 84466
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Father a TurqBlue Opaline on the left, the mother Emerald Blue or Emerald on the far right 2013-11-09 18.33.14-1.jpg Nice clutch Deon. Well done. :D And please try to breed again with this pair in next season. ;) @Recio: So how to explain this offspring with your emerald dominant theory??? No green...
- Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:28 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
- Replies: 95
- Views: 84466
Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence
but not because turquoise was present in the bird's phenotype . We know that Turquoise is not masked by either Emerald (we all have seen patched Emerald Turquoise phenotypes) or Cleartail (as showed by Madas' pics), thus this female producing Turquoise chicks owns the Turquoise gene but it is not e...
- Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:04 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald and Emerald turquoise
- Replies: 81
- Views: 15967
Re: Emerald and Emerald turquoise
EMEROLD= LINE BREED INDIGO TO ELEMINATE PATCHINESS . ??? This statement is just so WRONG in so many ways. BTW: I don't think a breeder who is saying words like this "After buying the world famous Clearwing Cleartail from my mate Gary I bought DF Violets and Mauve (DF Cobalt) to bred to the Cle...
- Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:57 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald and Emerald turquoise
- Replies: 81
- Views: 15967
Re: Emerald and Emerald turquoise
EMEROLD= LINE BREED INDIGO TO ELEMINATE PATCHINESS . ??? This statement is just so WRONG in so many ways. First: I read it as a question and not as a statement. So i think he ask it to start a discussion with a new point of view. Second: It is a fact that an Indigo has a aqua (emerald) like body co...
- Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:17 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Dom Pied Possibiliy being Same As Spangled Budgie Mutation
- Replies: 14
- Views: 5004
Re: Dom Pied Possibiliy being Same As Spangled Budgie Mutati
I must ask are those birds pure Alex's I've got to have some. Not my bird but to my knowledge they are pure Alexadrines (wild taken). The hetereozyguos ones is the pair all spangle Alexadrine were come from. Perhaps Lee can tell us some more infos regarding these bird because he has much more exper...
- Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:33 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Dom Pied Possibiliy being Same As Spangled Budgie Mutation
- Replies: 14
- Views: 5004
Re: Dom Pied Possibiliy being Same As Spangled Budgie Mutati
Hi, in alexandrines we have the spangle mutation too. hetereozyguos: http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/25301027864947squ9r6vgix.jpg homozyguos: http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/56181927865366uk1y9g58zf.jpg note the slight green on the head same as in the df dom. pied IRN. greetings.
- Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:26 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: I quit
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2436
Re: I quit
Well done my friends, well done.
@Willy: I fully agree with you. Thx for your great input here and at the yahoo group. Keep enjoying your great hobby.
greetings.
Chriskoi
- Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:40 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: EmeraldBlue combinations
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1445
Re: EmeraldBlue combinations
A bucket of 4 chicks showing all possible EmeraldBlue outcomes from an EmeraldBlue x Deep Violet Blue. cw, Deep EmeraldBlue, Deep Violet EmeraldBlue, Violet EmeraldBlue, EmeraldBlue http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s541/Trabots/Trabots%20IRNs/cwDeepDeepVioletVioletEmeraldBlues.jpg Deep EmeraldBl...
- Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:39 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 75467
Re: Saddleback ?
This is the first clutch breed by GW from the Netherlands out of dom. pied green /opaline x turq cobalt violet: http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/offspringnethe7ysukmnlae.jpg http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/offspringnethediay0g8nl4.jpg Left opaline green and right some kind of "do...
- Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:15 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 75467
Re: Saddleback ?
So what else but a new par blue could be responsable for there richness of colour and yellow projessive colouring. I suppose its ok for people around the world to sell turquoise harlequins as saddlebacks ,, well why not just sell them as turquoise harlequins. Hi, i don't want to start the same figh...
- Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:57 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 75467
Re: Saddleback ?
thx for your detailed answer.mcw-indianringnecks wrote:saddleback is simply the wrong name for these birds
Same bird in both pics but photographed under different angel and different UV light.
Cheers.
- Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:16 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 75467
Re: Saddleback ?
When you look at most pictures you will see most have no saddle,except people using there name to describe Turquoise Harlequins P,S. I dont beleive there is Turquoise in Saddlebacks ,it doesnt act the same as my birds . Sorry but when i look at this pic of your so called "saddleback" offs...
- Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:19 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 75467
Re: Saddleback ?
I think These pics could help with your discussion:
dilute turq:
opaline turq:
dilute turq:
opaline turq:
- Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:58 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Violet or Cobalt Opaline ????
- Replies: 33
- Views: 20618
Re: Violet or Cobalt Opaline ????
Some violets of Belgium:
pretty sure a Violet(df) Dark blue:
in foreground a Violet(df) blue and a Violet blue both with turq:
greetings.
pretty sure a Violet(df) Dark blue:
in foreground a Violet(df) blue and a Violet blue both with turq:
greetings.
- Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:16 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: blue lacewing x albino
- Replies: 17
- Views: 5529
Hi,
here is a picture of a pallidino blue (found on http://www.halsbandparkiet.nl, picture is taken by ben schepers):
here is a picture of a pallidino blue (found on http://www.halsbandparkiet.nl, picture is taken by ben schepers):
- Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:00 pm
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: green violet with blue
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1639
Re: Colour question
When you say a green violet and a turqouise do you mean a pastel or turqouise blue?. If a parent was a pastel blue then thiungs chance alot in colour results. They are Turquoise(sf) Blue Hen Turquoise(sf) Blue Cock Turquoise(sf) Blue Violet(sf) Hen Turquoise(sf) Blue Violet(sf) Cock Blue Hen Blue C...
- Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:35 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: help
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2134
Yeah. It looks like a turquoise cobalt or turquoise violet cock. This is one of my turquoise cobalt cocks: http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9274/halsis007.jpg btw.: the turquoise can vary from 20% (blue bird with some green feathers) to 80%. (nearly green bird with some blue feather). But all turq...
- Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:03 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: Slaty Color Ringneck
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2010
- Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:39 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: help with color of chicks
- Replies: 15
- Views: 3676
From this pair you will get only blue and grey birds. 25% Grey (DF) 50% Grey 25% Blue the df ones shoul look the same like the normal grey ones. So if you think you have a violett chick then one parent must be a grey violett bird (but i dont think you have such a bird). So please post a picture of t...
- Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:49 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: What is Grey/Blue or Blue/Grey?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1327
- Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:04 am
- Forum: IRN Photo Forum
- Topic: Searching picture of pallid Violet green bird ...
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2180
- Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:18 am
- Forum: IRN Photo Forum
- Topic: Searching picture of pallid Violet green bird ...
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2180
- Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:24 pm
- Forum: IRN Photo Forum
- Topic: Searching picture of pallid Violet green bird ...
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2180
Searching picture of pallid Violet green bird ...
i would be nice if some one can post such a picture.
Thx in advance
Thx in advance
- Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:12 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: Clearheaded Fallow Breeding Results
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1703
Try this site: http://www.gencalc.com/gen/eng_genc.php?sp=0PsitIR btw.: The cock of pair two can't be split in violett blue. the violett factor is incomplete dominant. He can only be split in blue. But he is a turqoise grey one and in this case he is blue too. because a visual grey bird is a combina...
- Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:57 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: breeding
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1201
Grey male x Lutino hen males 50.0% grey(sf) green /ino 50.0% green /ino females 50.0% grey(sf) green 50.0% green the correct answer is: males 50.0% grey(sf) green /ino / blau 50.0% green /ino / blau females 50.0% grey(sf) green / blau 50.0% green / blau because a visual grey is a blue bird combined...
- Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:16 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: Suggestions Needed on Violet IRN Pairing
- Replies: 16
- Views: 6328
- Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:47 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: Violet & Cobalt pair
- Replies: 6
- Views: 7889
So here are some pictures of violet cobalt and cleartail violet cobalt bird: cleartail: http://vogelzucht-teuber.de/DSCN0029.jpg cleartail and normal: http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8817/bleichschwanzviolettkobbd1.jpg normal violett cobalt and violett blue: http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/467...
- Wed May 21, 2008 8:16 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: more color questions
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2891
- Sun May 04, 2008 10:08 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: Outcome possible breeding
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1727
Hi i think the offspring must be this: cocks: grey(df) green /blue cinnamon grey(sf) green /blue cinnamon green /blue cinnamon grey(df) green /blue pallid-cinnamon grey(sf) green /blue pallid-cinnamon green /blue pallid-cinnamon grey(df) green /blue grey(sf) green /blue green /blue grey(df) green /b...
- Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:54 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: Predicting colors using GenCalc
- Replies: 51
- Views: 16395
I have written a genetic calc too (unfortunally not a multi language version, so it is in german). You can download it at: http://rapidshare.com/files/99995638/GenCalculator.zip.html Preview: http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7359/calc1wx4.gif Not all mutations are included, but the most common one...
- Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:32 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: Predicting colors using GenCalc
- Replies: 51
- Views: 16395
Jay wrote:
Nice IRN Photoshop mutation
It is not a photoshop mutation. These are real birds. For more pictures see here:
http://www.azvogelzucht.de/board/showtopic.php3?threadid=60202
- Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:15 pm
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: Predicting colors using GenCalc
- Replies: 51
- Views: 16395
pinkdevil wrote:I wonder if there will ever be a black IRN?
Not a real black one, but with a black head (from an austrian bird keeper):
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4811/dscn5557vc4.jpg
- Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:10 pm
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: Predicting colors using GenCalc
- Replies: 51
- Views: 16395
Yes Cleartail is WHWT. T1 and T2 are the two typs of darkgrenn / blue birds. the children of a green x mauve are all type 2 (bl+_D+/bl_D) and the children of olifgreen(DF darkgreen) x blue are all type 1 (bl+_D/bl_D+) But all children of both couples are darkgreen/blue. The basis for these two typs ...
- Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:00 pm
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: Predicting colors using GenCalc
- Replies: 51
- Views: 16395
- Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:27 am
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: Predicting colors using GenCalc
- Replies: 51
- Views: 16395