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hehe, like anything its just on the quality of the hand rearing. IRN's and Caiques are worlds appart in the pet world, Caiques are like lorikeets without the messy poop thats all, hyperactive fluffy balls of crazyness. I have an IRN trained up and socialised as much as you can train/socialise a pet ...

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I mean, as another note, a friend quite heavily into Canary breeding and colouration pointed me to a few good examples that seem to mimic how this 'mutation' has started to appear. Research: One product is canathaxin another is Bogena Intensif is one more known for spot colouration that looks incred...

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Still just looks like residual effects from the canary colouration. It doesnt look to behave like any other colouration mutation I know of either. The first series of images just seem too much like a result of the colouration feeding (i mean seriously... it even coloured the feet tissue), and this j...

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I wouldnt ever expect a bird to let you do whatever you want inside its cage, its really up to the individual bird to decide how friendly it wants to be inside. You have to remember, often in the entire house, its cage is the only true place it knows is their territory, its safe, and since its in an...

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Alexandrines, like IRN's can breed from 2yrs on easily enough (can never put a guarantee on breeding age though, its just a good average estimate).

I have heard of IRN's and Alex's hens breeding from 1yo and males from 2, but seems almost completely common for 2yrs+ that they breed successfully.

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Thats a typical young IRN noise, they do that alot when they are wanting a feed heh.

Though in full swing its quite different, but its certainly a faint remain of it.

They eventually stop it all together.

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I got two pairs, one pair is 2006 bred, the other pair is 2007 bred. They are amazing characters, imagine a quiet lorikeet without runny poops lol Stunning personalities, look forward to working with their young. They should start getting into the pet trade soonish (males are down to $1k to $1.5k ea...

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Lovely looking birds

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Yes, (one too many 0's as a typo though) 1.5cm is 0.6th of an inch, and 2.5cm is one inch... But the reccomended sizes are 1/2" to 5/8" (half inch to 5/8th's of an inch). Making 1.5cm(fine) to 1.75cm(not ideal but workable) max from experience if what you will want to use for safety and en...

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The bar spacing looks quite large (designed for larger birds) which can and will cause problems over the years, all you need is one reckless wing to get through it (and it does happen alot in playtime etc in wide space cages) and bang, you have a very expensive and traumatic wing break on your hands...

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Honestly, the cages are quite large (good) for an IRN indeed, however the bar spacing on those two later models is too wide, have never had good experiences over a long term basis with anything wider than bar spacing of 1.75cm, 1.5 is ideal. The wider spacing can and does cause wing breaks, and if y...

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Alll birds are actually capable of this, it is a sign they are happy, and its regularly a sign they are trying to feed you more often than not. Its a strong bonding sign (though if a pet doesnt do it, does not mean its any less bonded) and it can be kinda gross lol Really its often a case of calming...

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I used to use big toys as foraging / muck around toys as well, and its very dissapointing to see a big name pet product like the Kong branded toys, pushing a bird toy that is made of a product not suitable for birds. Not the first time there have been toys for birds on the market that arent actually...

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In general, rubber dog toys are possibly not the safest of ideas in the long run... they sure wont hurt it in a short timeframe however. http://www.caiquecrazy.org/dangeroustoys.html Many dog toys have levels of zinc and other chemicals in such small quantities (for a dog / human) that its negligibl...

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Well judges would most likely be looking for any form of hybridisations with other Asiatics (mainly the Alexandrine). Such as beak structure, skull formation, posture (generally IRN's are quite upright birds as an example) strong long tail feathers are also key here, and you can see some hybridisati...

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Birds do indeed have blood vessels and nerve endings throughout the beak itself. It is a continually growing 'tooth' like scructure and basicly the only part of the beak that doesnt have these going on is towards the tips (often the clear or less coloured area is noticable here) The sensation could ...

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Heh, couldnt help myself... proud new parent to a few pairs of Caiques :P In their quarantine / temp cages (large 1m cube patio cages) while they settle into their new home / new people. http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs010.snc1/2881_1073086785400_1173084905_30189586_7027192_n.jpg http...

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heya, there are so many topics on moulting and moult etc that your best bet is to do a quick search (there is even a tool to help you at the top) of the forum. If you cant find the exact answer you need, fire it off for sure. This particular question i think gets asked alot and answered alot, so sho...

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Breeding birds is a beautiful thing and something that I reccomend, but only to those who have done alot of research and have the serious time and dedication for it. If you are willing to really understand what they need, aviary requirements, feed requirements, mental requirements etc, and plan to r...

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I find it cute that one reference to one person constitutes much of any worth lol Sadly my conditioning in the Australian market of disbelieving most of what people say without some form of proof, is that quite often after visiting their aviaries, they are nothing more than the standard of what they...

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Well, a lighter colouration of blue around the neck line, even a shallow pale grey even, can be common across females as well as young males.

Ideally, a pic would clear it up along with its age.

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Can you post pics of these two birds at all? (then again, unless same lighting condition, the pics are relatively useless to use as a guide... i can make a normal blue irn look violet or cobalt in the right lighting lol). So far I have yet to see a difference in these birds despite what people claim...

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hehe, up to you, your bird your problem in the long run mate. I have never heard of formula seeping from the nostrils... its unheard of. Once again mate, I am utterly lost as to the point of this thread, you often start with a question and go with something regardless of the worries other people hav...

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Yeah, so long as they are not getting caught on anything due to breakages / dmg or they are not causing your bird to attempt to excessively preen those dmged feathers then just leave them as they are.

They will certainly moult out and less effort the bird has to put on replacing feathers the better.

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First off those pics of Julies birds are great examples of what a young bub should look like. Heh, in his posts before I made mine, there was not a single reference to the birds age / tail, but after reading his post after mine I realised this :D To Leo however... I dont want to be rude, but I think...

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There have been a small (very small) handful of orange mutations, and pink even around the world, most can easily be summed up with a red factor feed for canaries etc in lutino / albino ringnecks. None of these people are capable of providing pics of the young as they are pinning, only as quite olde...

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It is far too early to even think about the birds personality at an age where they have yet to feather up still.

Best bet is a pic of the bird. Second best bet is to compare it with pics on these forums and on the net as to what it should look like. If it looks different / odd, there is a problem.

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Some people will say any crap if it means getting a bird out of their hands and replaced with money

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There are actually four species of Psittacula Krameri. P. K. krameri P. K. manillensis P. K. parvirostris P. K. borealis P.K.k = African Ringneck P.K.m = Indian Ringneck P.K.p = Abyssinian Ringneck P.K.b = Neumanns Ringneck Species when being used / talked about 99% of the time will involve the Indi...

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IRN's do yip more than other species I have bred, quite alot actually... but I can guess the reason its particularly noisey... Its alone. Solo bubs being hand reared are far more noisey than in groups, a small fluffy toy to snuggle up to is a great idea... something dull in colour without large eyes...

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Heya all, just a plug for a bird sale coming up on the 5th this month (yah just a couple of days away). Adelaide Bird Sale At Enfield Community Centre 540 Regency Rd. Enfield. 11.00am - 1.30pm. Feel free to throw yourself in there to take a look if you are in the area. I wont have a stall, just rock...

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Hmm, would deffinately be something worth further breeding etc if thats the case. Possible variations in the depth of masking is interesting to note. We have had a violet grey bird with the violet completely masked, hence why i was of the opinion this is how it was... will haras Mick to see if he wa...

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I was not interested in disproving anything.... I was just merely pointing out that continual breeding between PallidIno to Ino birds, does lighten the birds.. I dont read too much into speculation of something until it has actually been done, gives me a headache lol, I just look forward to seeing h...

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Utterly wrong, anything 'feral' about an IRN as they age is completely due to anything the owner has done or not picked up on or been unable to work with for one reason or another. Never heard of one having that sort of problem. I have been rearing / owning ringnecks for many years. They are quite i...

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Well, there are a handfull of breeders here in Australia who do the PallidIno lines. I myself with a friend started and sold our lines, it took 3 generations to see a notable difference between the birds colouring... It can take several generations when starting with regular pallid birds as a primer...

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Nope, no size difference at all really. But the species itself does contain smaller sized birds and larger sized birds. Ideally, the larger the better but its nothing to worry about if you have a smaller bird. You will possibly always have a few birds that are larger than others. I have owned blues ...

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Well, an Albino cock to a Blue hen will throw 100% albino hens, and 100% blue split ino cocks. So this could be how he could guarantee the sex. Ringnecks mimic alot of behaviour between the sexes, for fun, practise, hormones etc. I would not take its behaviour as a young bird as any indication in th...

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Violet is a structual colour, like Grey. A bird is either yes, or no in this case. Violet, like grey cant be split due to the genes nature. Violet is remarkably different to both blue and grey, so it should not be hard at all to distinguish the difference. The pins on grey/blue birds will always app...

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Lovely looking bird

Great to see such a happy bird, obviously getting plenty of love

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Yup, nice work, your right with everything there

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Heya there, they do look like Pallids to me, Lacewing is an old and technically incorrect name for Pallid. The more Pallids are put to ino birds, or pallid ino males, the lighter the young get... you can get pallid birds that look near on lutino, with males that hold both pallid and ino genes lookin...

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I breed and have pets both several species of conures and several ringnecks. Sunnies generally pick up phrases fast if you teach them, but the best sound you will get will be short loud budgie quality talk. Conures, and sunnies, are like little puppies, cuddly, bouncy, loud and use their beaks alot,...

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When you get to 25ish with an IRN you can safey say you have kept the bird in a great healthy environment and diet heh, thats old in the tooth for many an IRN to make it to that age.

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Unfortunately, the forums have been down for a few days, only just saw this sorry. First off, on a medical point of view I dont see cutting the foot off being cheaper than the vet costs heh, if you plan on doing this yourself, you surely have the ability and the equipment to remove the bands yoursel...

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I think a companion is the worst thing you can do for that bird at this point in time.... you have changed its entire life around, you dont want to give it more stress of throwing in another chaotic bird to the mix. You need to take things more slowly... you have a bird that has been used to a very ...

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Grey and Violet are actually structural colours, they are either grey or not, or violet, or not, no splits etc. One GreyGreen to a Green will produce 50% GreyGreen and 50% Green, likewise with VioletGreen and Green pairs. This is also what happens with birds that are Visually Grey (not the greygreen...

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Well, all siblings will either be split for Blue or Turquoise as the father, being a visual turquoise grey carried both. Any hens produced will have just one of those two splits, and be either cinnamon or normal. The males will be visually normal, but split to either blue or turquoise. They will all...

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Heh yah, the thing about hybridization is quite common in several industries, I think people like myself are more anti-hybrid with birds as we cant import new blood, so we have limited stocks to work with in many many species... This being said, im still not entirely against it, and in some cases, w...

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I have heard of a person trying this to a massive failure. (over 12 years work to produce a mucky genepool of birds that he cant sell and dont resemble either of the two species he was working with). Some birds just dont easily swap that mutanagenic behaviour in colour either I guess. Unlike an Alex...

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Nope, Pallid is co-dominant with Ino. If you put an Ino (lutino) cock to a pallid hen, you will get PallidIno cocks and Ino hens. If you put a Pallid Cock to an Ino (lutino) hen, you will get PallidIno cocks and Pallid hens. To produce pallid and ino birds of each sex in the clutch, you need to put ...

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