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Dark Factor? Dark Opline ?

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:48 am
by JimHcctx
Hi all, I am hoping someone can give me some clarity on the color of the darkest bird in these photos. The bird came from a pair that is a single factor violet-blue male split opaline and a cinnamon violet-blue hen.

The body color is dark blue, really dark blue, with a head color that looks just like a double-factored violet-blue in the light. It is a hen and think its opaline(?), but the body is very dark blue with white edging around the primaries and brown toe nails.

The rest of the birds in the photos are cinnamon violet-blue opaline hens and one double factor violet blue opaline hen.

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Thanks

Jim

Re: Dark Factor? Dark Opline ?

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:26 am
by madas
JimHcctx wrote: Image
If you are talking about the bird in the middle (perched) then this bird looks like a opaline violet(DF) blue. But i must add it has a touch of cinnamon as well. But this bird can't be cinnamon opaline unless the father is split for cinnamon as well.

Here is the offspring which you can expect from your pairing:

1.0 blue violet(sf) opaline x 0.1 blue violet(sf) cinnamon
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 blue /opaline cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 blue violet(df) /opaline cinnamon
50.0% 1.0 blue violet(sf) /opaline cinnamon
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 blue opaline
25.0% 0.1 blue violet(df) opaline
50.0% 0.1 blue violet(sf) opaline

Re: Dark Factor? Dark Opline ?

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:14 pm
by JimHcctx
Thanks guys, the bird I was referring to is the darkest blue in the photo. As always light & camera is an issue. With several DF Violet blues and SF Violet blues on hand, this bird is very much different from either, it is blue and not purple, with the exception of the head. The blue is very dark and very rich in color. I will have to try to get some pics with the bird between two DF Violet Blues and repost. Unfortunately it appears as the bird came from sibling parents and thinking something might have changed the color there.

As always appreciate the help & insights, Thanks!!

Re: Dark Factor? Dark Opline ?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:29 am
by Recio
@ Madas ... the father is split Opaline :) .

@ Jim: Opaline and Cinnamon, which are sex linked mutations are at work. It would be very valuable to know the sex of the bird.

Regards

Recio

Re: Dark Factor? Dark Opline ?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:49 am
by madas
Recio wrote: @ Madas ... the father is split Opaline :) .
Upsi. Thx for pointing out. ;)

So hopefully here are the correct results:

1.0 blue violet(sf) /opaline x 0.1 blue violet(sf) cinnamon
% from all 1.0
12.5% 1.0 blue /cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 blue violet(df) /cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 blue violet(sf) /cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 blue /opaline cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 blue violet(df) /opaline cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 blue violet(sf) /opaline cinnamon
% from all 0.1
12.5% 0.1 blue
12.5% 0.1 blue violet(df)
25.0% 0.1 blue violet(sf)
12.5% 0.1 blue opaline
12.5% 0.1 blue violet(df) opaline
25.0% 0.1 blue violet(sf) opaline