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The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:08 pm
by ranechild
I have a choice of two violet blue birds to get for my pet. One is very evenly violet all over, the other has some blue or green on his back and blue on his neck and blue in his tail. I was wondering what the difference is between these two bird genetically? Is one maybe a DF violet and one an SF violet? Also, the blue looks almost green on the back of the less violet bird... opinions? (It's most evident in the last picture.) Is it just because these bird just had a shower and is wet or could it be that there is another genetic factor in the bird?
Both babies together
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The all violet baby:
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The bluer baby:
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The blue and green on his back:
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Yay! First time posting pictures!

Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:48 am
by Ring0Neck
Since you can now upload pics, would you be able to take some pics avoiding the sunlight?, somewhere in the shade perhaps? and before shower :D

Do you know the parents of these birds?
Both parents have to carry violet to be able to get a DF Violet, and if they were, just take the darker violet.

If indeed there's green (i can't see in your pics) on it's back then i assume it is a Turquoise Violet... more pics pls


Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:23 pm
by Skyes_crew
From the pics you posted looks like a turquoiseviolet to me. I can see the green on the chest and the back. My df violet is violet all over



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Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:43 pm
by sheyd
if only for a pet - choose the one you fancy the most. - I, like Ben couldn't see any green on the birds (but not to say it isn't there) I'd also choose the darker Violet over the lighter one.

Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:57 pm
by Skyes_crew
I've circled where I saw the green. But like sheyd said, if its only a pet choose whichever one you fall in love with.

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Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:50 pm
by sheyd
I think that's just the light reflecting off of the pics- would need to see some more without the birds being wet and in the sun

Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:54 pm
by Skyes_crew
Trick of the light lol

Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:03 am
by ranechild
So here are some pictures in the dry, unfortunately you can't see any of the questionable green spots in these... The one with question spots is in the back of these pictures. The one in the front seems a little darker in the head. Last picture helps to see the difference in the tails--so does the first wet picture.
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They are such cuties. I know he'll only be a pet, but I'm interested to learn the genetics and this is my only first hand opportunity so far :)

Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:30 am
by Skyes_crew
Can't see any of the green now lol. Did you find out the parentage? Do both parents carry the violet gene? If they are in fact DF violets, choose the one with the darker flights and overall darker color. And if they are dna sexed, i guess choose by whether you would like a male or female. They are both cuties regardless :)

Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:54 am
by ranechild
wait a minute... I might see something...
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Green? Maybe he could be a Turquoise Violet Blue. I'll check on the parents now. I know there were also many Turquoise babies available with the same breeder... I think it to be likely.

Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:23 am
by Skyes_crew
Turq violet is a very pretty color. One of my favorites :) pics are just not going to show everything. I've tried to capture how dark my boys head is and no matter what light I'm in it never shows. But if you are confident that you see green, then go under the assumption, if you don't know the parents, that it is a turq violet. Are you planning on breeding in the future?

Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:59 am
by ranechild
Breeding is a possibility. We'll see. I have alot of hobbies already... :)

Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:06 pm
by trabots
When wet the structure in the feather cannot work as it should to reflect blue colours to our eyes. All Blue IRNs will look green in part depending on how soaked that part of the bird is.

Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:40 am
by ranechild
So here are some more pictures. I'm pretty convinced he's got a turquoise gene. The lowest row of flights... or I could still be imagining things.
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and fluffy :)

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Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:59 am
by Ring0Neck
Did you do his nails? :lol:
Cute
I don't see turquoise , but if he is it will gradually get more n more.

Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 8:27 am
by ranechild
His nails do look very black :)
He hasn't come home yet. He comes home on Monday. I am going to go out and buy all kinds of toys for his cage today. I'm SO EXCITED!!!!

Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:58 am
by ranechild
Latest news... I guess I probably am seeing things...
Dad is a Violet Blue, Mom is Albino.

Re: The babys to choose from (photos added)

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 3:00 pm
by sheyd
ranechild wrote:Latest news... I guess I probably am seeing things...
Dad is a Violet Blue, Mom is Albino.
I don't see Turquoise (it isn't there in the parents anyway, and is dominant to Blue)

What colour were the Albino hen's parents?- as unless she is a Violet Blue Ino, then DF Violet is not possible.