whats so exciting about the deep mutation

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whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby Sanzaf1 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:03 am

could some please tell me whats so exciting about the deep mutation???

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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby Johan S » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:35 am

For me the most exciting part is that it allows us to fine tune the phenotype of many mutations, but esp. for what each individual prefers when it comes to a purple looking bird. Some prefer violet(df), some like cobalt violet. Without deep, that is all we can do. With deep, we have many more options. Equally as exciting is the mutation in SA, for the same reason that it provides more flexibility and different phenotypes.

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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby trabots » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:31 pm

The main attraction to me is that unlike a Dark Blue the Deep Blue double factors without destroying the structural layer as in the DF Dark Blue or Mauve. I also am finding that it darkens considerably in the IndigoBlue and TurquoiseBlue forms. It also darkens any combination with Violet to the same extent that Dark does despite not being as dark as Dark in isolation. As Johan has said it results in a myriad number of possible new combinations.

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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby Sanzaf1 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:38 pm

Indeed it can provide a myriad of possibilities, but this myriad is only possible in blue birds, if this existed in other mutation surely it would play a significant role in darkening birds thus far,don't get me wrong i 100% agree with respect to the blue series birds that it a magnificent species .Does anyone have deep in other mutation or color except blue?

is it possible for somebody to post a picture of the deep mutation

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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby sheyd » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:29 pm

Sanzaf1 wrote:Indeed it can provide a myriad of possibilities, but this myriad is only possible in blue birds, if this existed in other mutation surely it would play a significant role in darkening birds thus far,don't get me wrong i 100% agree with respect to the blue series birds that it a magnificent species .Does anyone have deep in other mutation or color except blue?

is it possible for somebody to post a picture of the deep mutation


yes, most noticeable in the blue series, though I don't think enough experimentation (in combination with other factors) has happened with the green series yet- so am sitting in anticipation...

SA deep:
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=16564
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=16577
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http://psittacula-world.com/EN/Mutations/P-krameri.htm
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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby Moon Walker » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:02 am

Good day I'm new to the site here and would like to ad to this topic I'm a new breeder in gauteng south africa I have managed to buy 2 green birds that was bred from the NT line when I got the birds they where very young and normal green in color after 4 months of age they changed color and they are now 7 months of age and I now no after getting help from a breeder that they are indeed deep green. The female is df deep green and the male looks single factor but what is amazing to me is the color changes every 2 months I have to wait for the 15 month moult but I can not wait to breed them to normal blue birds to get a better understanding to the color it is a very nice looking bird in blue and green series and even thou they looked normal green as babies I new something was different with these birds and who now what new tipe deeps we will get in 10 years time

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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby sheyd » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:06 pm

Hi Moon walker, do you have any pics to share?
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http://psittacula-world.com/EN/Mutations/P-krameri.htm
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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby Moon Walker » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:37 pm

Hi sorry but I am not able to upload pics yet I will ask prodigy to upload them for me later.
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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby trabots » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:23 pm

I have a Deep IndigoBlue cock just finished its 1 year moult, absolutely stunning! Pics will follow eventually. I have found that Deep darkens considerably when combined with IndigoBlue and TurquoiseBlue.

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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby sheyd » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:43 pm

trabots wrote:I have found that Deep darkens considerably when combined with IndigoBlue and TurquoiseBlue.

I find that fascinating- I wonder why it would darken more with parblue? Looking forward to pics :)
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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby Moon Walker » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:10 am

Good morning guys yes I would absolutely love to c the pics and would like for prodigy to comment on this ( why do deep darken in different stages of time and to other color will ask him to ad my pics also today.
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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby prodigy » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:17 am

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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby Moon Walker » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:26 am

Hi guys just want to say thanks to prodigy for adding my pics so 1st pic is the sf deep green male and 2nd pic is df deep green female I asked him to put the pics of the birds under the filter to show the deference of the 2 birds. Unfortunately I had some bad luck the female df deep green got out of the cage and flew away my service hallway had a gap by the roof and she got out am very sad about it but will keep you all up to date with the pics of the male I'm looking forward to c what he will look like after the 15 month moult.
I'm looking forward to c the pics you all have on your babies and would like for comments on this birds
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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby sheyd » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:16 pm

thanks for sharing- it's a shame you lost the hen- would have been good to have her and the sf SA Deep in the same shot with a wildtype to compare.
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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby Moon Walker » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:28 am

Hi yes it is sad that she got out I want to put the male to a mature blue female now to c what I get hopefully he could pair this year
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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby Sanzaf1 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:22 pm

hi moon walker
its very difficult to fad em beacause that looks like a normal dark green to me...... prodigy is it possible for u to upload a picture for me and convert it to that effect

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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby Moon Walker » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:56 am

Hi sanzaf if you look at the topic deep and dark green you will c that prodigy explains in detail what to look for in deep series and what the deference is between deep green, dark green, violet green ect, ect that would help
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MW

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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby sheyd » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:32 am

Here is the thread Sanzaf: viewtopic.php?f=26&t=16577
regards, Shey
http://psittacula-world.com/EN/Mutations/P-krameri.htm
http://www.gencalc.com/gen/eng_genc.php?sp=0PsitIR

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Re: whats so exciting about the deep mutation

Postby Moon Walker » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:36 am

Thanks chocobo

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