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Hi can any won help I am looking for misty Indian ringneck in europe
I cant find a breeder of this mutation in the uk.

Regards
Kevin

Kevin hi,
In london lives the world reknowned breeder of mutations. His name is Babu Chawhan. He can possibly help. Markus Ehrenbrink of Germany specializes in this mutation. Try to get incontactwith them.I have their contact info at work and can help on Monday.

hi kevin, try mark jones he's in south wales his web site is ringneckmutations.com

Thank you for the reply I have e/mail markus so many times but no reply
I don't no if he still has this mutation or not.

Thank you for the reply molossus2 I no of the the man you call babu
I see from your web site that you are getting some birds from him
Have got them yet.

I hope to move them shortly.

Molossus2 have you scene the birds you are getting from Babu in the flesh

Yes. I spent 6 days with him in December. Why do you ask?

Molossus2 wrote:Why do you ask?

I would be interesed in this question too.

@Tartan ringnecks: Have you thought about the offered birds by Martin??? Do you want one of them???

madas

@ Madas.What mutations does Martin have?

Molossus2 wrote:@ Madas.What mutations does Martin have?

misty dom edged cinnamon cobalt.

madas

Hi madas

Thank you for your help
I am interested in both birds can you ask what price he would take for them also are thay male or female and if he would be able to take them to zwolle in sept

Regards
Kevin.

Hi tartan,

i will do my best to get the infos. ;)

madas

Hi madas

Did you here back from the guy with the misty birds in Germany .

Kevin

Tartan ringnecks wrote:Hi madas

Did you here back from the guy with the misty birds in Germany .

Kevin

Yep. He only is interested in swapping birds but not for green rec. pieds.

madas

Madas,
The khaki bird in Terrys book page 251...is that the same mutation as the one Martin and Markus are developing?

Thank you for trying madas

the birds that he was willing to swap are not worth a
Dominant pied or a emrald

Kevin

Molossus2 wrote:Madas,
The khaki bird in Terrys book page 251...is that the same mutation as the one Martin and Markus are developing?

Hi Lee,

i will check later at home.

madas

Tartan ringnecks wrote:Thank you for trying madas

the birds that he was willing to swap are not worth a
Dominant pied or a emrald

Kevin

Hi Kevin,

thats your opinion. But such a bird is a combination of 4 mutations: (incomplete)dominant misty, dom. sexlinked edged, rec. sexlinked cinnamon and rec. blue. So what do you think how long it will take to come to this stage???

Here is a pic of the bird we talk about:





greetings.

madas

Hi yes the bird in Terry's book is the same bird .

Madas

I was offered opaline misty turq grey last year at 450 euros and a misty blue but was unable to get to Europe At the time.
Yes i no it is a combination of four mutations 20 years ago I would have agreed with you but now it would only take 3 or 4 years at the most to breed this combination.

Dominant pied split blue are 3000 pounds
Emaralds are 2500 pounds

Last years prices.

madas wrote: But such a bird is a combination of 4 mutations: (incomplete)dominant misty, dom. sexlinked edged, rec. sexlinked cinnamon and rec. blue. So what do you think how long it will take to come to this stage???

Madas, are you saying there is a dom. sex linked edged mutation? I wasn't aware that it is sex-linked. I only know the recessive edged and incomplete dominant edge mutations.

Irrespective, that is a striking bird!

Johan S wrote:

madas wrote: But such a bird is a combination of 4 mutations: (incomplete)dominant misty, dom. sexlinked edged, rec. sexlinked cinnamon and rec. blue. So what do you think how long it will take to come to this stage???

Madas, are you saying there is a dom. sex linked edged mutation? I wasn't aware that it is sex-linked. I only know the recessive edged and incomplete dominant edge mutations.

Irrespective, that is a striking bird!

Yep in the last months some breeders reported that the commonly known dom. edged mutation could be sex-linked dominant and not incomplete dominant. So do you own such birds? Have you ever breed an edged female from a pair 1,0 non edged x 0,1 edged or asked in another way have you wonder why all edged offspring from such a pair are males? Have you noticed that some edged males are lighter then the others but there are only lighter females!!!

greetings.

madas

Hi madas

So this is the same mutation as is in the linelated parakeet then
As questioned by jac bastians last book as he was not positive ether.

As I have some of this mutation myself.



kevin

Madas, that is indeed remarkable. As Kevin pointed out, I also have only been aware of sex-linked dominance in the lineolated parakeet.

We have six edged ringnecks in our collection, 3 cocks and 3 hens. None of them are paired together, though, so the results of these pairs might assist with the current observations. To be fair to the birds, most are 2010 offspring, and 2011 produced only three young from one pair (mauve x kobalt dominant edged). None were edged, yet all were mauve. You win some, you loose some, hey?

So, if the mutation is indeed sex-linked, this could lead to some very interesting new results for the sex-related chromosone, right? I'm no geneticist, but given that the mutation is specific to that chromosone, shouldn't we then start observing linkage / cross-overs as well? As an example, an ino x edged (generation 1), producing an edged/ino male (generation 2), which, paired to a wildtype, produces an ino edged female (generation 3)?

Johan S wrote:2011 produced only three young from one pair (mauve x kobalt dominant edged). None were edged, yet all were mauve?

So let me guess: all three youngsters are females (But some EF edged males only show a little bit of the edged pattern; depends on the breeding line)?!? Any pics of the three offspring birds?

Johan S wrote:As an example, an ino x edged (generation 1), producing an edged/ino male (generation 2), which, paired to a wildtype, produces an ino edged female (generation 3)?

Jup. But i wouldn't do so because for an ino bird there isn't much left on which the edged pattern could act on.

madas

Spot on! I've just checked the breeding records, and they were indeed 3 mauve hens. However, I was mistaken on the pairing, it was actually a cobalt x cobalt dom. edged. Thats why it was so strange to breed 3x mauves. Struggling to upload photos, I have shared it with you via a Google+ album.

As for the ino, it was the first example of sex-linked inheritance that came to mind (probably because that was the first sex-linked mutation we bred with), and the last I would probably try.

hi guys can you look at the link and tell me if the male ringneck shown here is cinnamon or misty (or dilute)

and how would i differentiate between cinnamon and misty

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLargeI ... =445044461

hello molossus

have you seen all the Three pictures. the third picture looks alot like a dilute.
True, the flight feathers do show that he has cinnamon, but im pretty sure cinnamon also covers the head.

or could he be cinnamon opaline? because of the darker head and the markings on the wing shown in the 3rd pic?

what do you reckon?