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Lutino died

Post by lutino » Fri May 02, 2008 6:52 pm

Im extremely upset at the moment. I dont know how to deal with it. Last night Lutino was in my room as usual with the door open. I was in the lounge. Next thing i hear him screaming a painful scream i havnt heard before. I ran into my room, and my flatmates rat had my baby gripped around the neck. I managed to get the rat off him but he was bleeding from the neck. I lay him down, he was still breathing but his head went all floppy. I was frantic getting ready to take him to the vet. It was too late, about a minute after the attack happened he stopped breathing :cry: :cry:
I cant even explain how i feel. Heart broken and wanting to give up

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Post by celtic_aura » Fri May 02, 2008 7:12 pm

I am so sorry to hear about your loss. :cry: My heart goes out to you. It's horrible to lose a loved pet, especially in a way as traumatic as that. Just try to remember all the good time you had with lutino and how much love you shared with him. I know you're in a lot of pain now, but it does get better.
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Post by bec » Fri May 02, 2008 8:02 pm

OMG lutino im so sorry
i dont know what else to say so im sending you big hugs
i acnt even begin to guess how you feel
hold on to the good times you had with him

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Post by pinkdevil » Fri May 02, 2008 9:32 pm

So very sorry to hear that lutino :cry:

Cherish the memories you have of lutino and hold them dear in your heart forever, and let yourself heal.

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Post by Bella » Sat May 03, 2008 3:20 am

Im sad to hear about your loss fly free poor lutino. Im sure you have lots of good memories to hold onto.
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Post by catschair2 » Sat May 03, 2008 10:59 am

My condolences. Fly free, Lutino!
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Post by greeny » Sun May 04, 2008 6:30 pm

Nooo, this is devastating. I cannot believe it. I am terribly sorry. It is so wrong and terrible. Seriously, my total condolences and heartfelt sorrow.

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Post by GreenJenny » Mon May 05, 2008 10:29 am

Im very sorry for your lost...... rest in peace lutino..

.......................Did you talked to your "flatmate" about this??? Well at least that person have to pay for what his/her dirty little creature did to your pet!!

OH god I just cant stand it when someone isn't responsible enough with their own pet.. Im not talking about you..

If I were you I would throw that damn rat out the flat, I dont care what my flatmate will say, I thought this will be fair enough.

I cant just let my fid got killed and do nothing about it then just wait until my feeling gets better, thats not me.

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Post by Amazonite » Mon May 05, 2008 2:02 pm

awww big hugs RIP Lutino

Hope on to your baby in your heart.

I agree with Greenjenny, kick the rat out.
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Post by Bella » Mon May 05, 2008 4:26 pm

GreenJenny wrote:Well at least that person have to pay for what his/her dirty little creature did to your pet!!


Domestic rats are infact VERY clean animals and im quite offended by your uneducated comment maybe you should research these "Dirty little creature" im sure it was not intentional what happened and it is basic instincts for them to protect themselves from danger or what may appear to be danger it is very unfortunate what has happened and im sure the flatemate feels terrible but you cant change nature!!
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Post by leo » Mon May 05, 2008 6:24 pm

greenjenny...
i think these stuff can be talked out nicely between lut owner and the flatmate...
im sure the flatmate love his rat as well, and it was an accident...

we all know how does it feel to lose a beloved pet friend, it is painful...this case, lut owner feel it, but why must he make other who is sinless (i hope that was pure acident) feel the same( the pain)...

greenjenny and amazonite, im really sorry if i offend you, but i promise that it was totally not my intention...
guys, if i offend you in any way, please let me know....don't keep it to yourself....okay.tango is FE-male.............

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Post by lutino » Mon May 05, 2008 9:03 pm

Thanks for your support everyone. It will take me awhile to get over this. Im only 20 but ive had quite afew pets in my life. I have to say that ive never been more attached to a pet than i have been to lutino. Im at uni, and i always look forward to seeing him/her at the end of the day. We shared the same room, he would keep me company while i study, i would give him showers which he loves, he would get the rasins from my museli when we had breakfast together (i dont like them lol), he learnt a couple of words, and he would go nuts when my phone rang! These are just afew things i'll miss so much about my baby.
I am going to get lutino dna tested as 'he' (i think) was only about 1.5yrs. Ive had him since 4 months and im the only human he ever trusted, hes a timid lil guy.
My flatemate feels very sorry about what has happened, shes a vet actually. Im not the fondest of rats anyway but its still her pet.
The hardest thing is that he actually looks like he was in such pain :cry:

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Post by lutino » Tue May 06, 2008 1:33 am

I have no idea what to do, i feel so lost. My flatemates dont seem to care. They play with those stupid rats infront of me. I know they have know idea of what im feeling. They think 'its just a bird'. I know this because i loved talking about lutino to them but they just thought i was obsessed or something, and basically said birds are stupid, they have no thoughts, and have no brains :cry:

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Post by pinkdevil » Tue May 06, 2008 2:02 am

I think you need to allow yourself to grieve over your baby lutino. I guess it is hard when your flat mates are a little insensitive to what you are going through by playing with the rats and saying you were obsessed and birds are stupid :evil: :? Very "unvet" like I must say.

As your flat mates are not going to be there for you, you can always count on us. We know how much your baby means to you as does our babies mean to us.

So if ever you need to vent....vent away :)


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Post by ryelle » Tue May 06, 2008 4:05 am

Bella wrote:
GreenJenny wrote:Well at least that person have to pay for what his/her dirty little creature did to your pet!!


Domestic rats are infact VERY clean animals and im quite offended by your uneducated comment maybe you should research these "Dirty little creature" im sure it was not intentional what happened and it is basic instincts for them to protect themselves from danger or what may appear to be danger it is very unfortunate what has happened and im sure the flatemate feels terrible but you cant change nature!!


im sorry for you loss lutino. your flatmate should have had an eye on their pet rat, especially if it was around your fid.

im agreeing with Bella aswell. im quite offended too and sure my LOVELY ratty boys would be aswell.

its really harsh that your flat mates are playing with their rats in front of you! kinda like rubbing it in your face, right? my friends think im crazy cus i talk about my rats and my fid all the time. atleast a pet is more loyal and caring about you. stupid friends :evil:

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Post by leo » Tue May 06, 2008 4:44 am

well lut, this kind of people are all around the world...

if you regard her as friend, then let it be, or talk to her, but for you case she seems to be the reall sucky 1,
if you just can't be in piece inmind and soul, bcoz of your "friend" insensitivity, do something then...

i know it is bad, for me, stole the rat, sell it and buy another bird, not for the money, but for the anger and the punishment for your friend+ lesson for her :twisted: :evil: if that could bring you piece,just do it...she ask for it !!!! :twisted: i would if i m you, i hate this kind of friend... :x

anyway, can share of what she said when knowing lut murdered by rat ?

im a very mean and evil person, to those evil person too,...sorry...

thats your choice...
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Post by Bella » Tue May 06, 2008 8:03 am

Im not trying to defend your flatmate in any way but the rat is very like a bird exercise wise they NEED to come out and socialise but she should not be so insensitive maybe you could talk to her and tell her that it really upsets you to see the rat and ask if maybe she could have the rat out discretley and that is the least she could do.
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Post by leo » Tue May 06, 2008 8:22 am

bella, i think the flatmate does not even bother about how lut feels and everything....

and may be, she does not even care weather the bird is dead or alive...

i can't stand such a person
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Post by GreenJenny » Tue May 06, 2008 8:47 am

Well Bella I hope you will change your mind once your bird got attacked by a rat. Rat will be rat I really don't care even if they are domesticated whatsoever.

Oh okay so just because they are domesticated it means they are "cleaner" than the wild one? Lets see.... Dog, so lets compare a wild dog and a pet dog, their saliva, is domesticated dog's saliva cleaner than wild dog's saliva? I don't think so, they are still DOG and therefore they still carry the same type of bacteria. I love dog but this is is the fact and you CANT change the fact that their saliva is DIRTY. Same goes with rat, if they bite you they can infect you with disease, what if they bite bird? The result will be even worse.

I guess you will have to think WHO really post that "uneducated" post.

Now back to the original thread, your flatmate is a vet??? LMAO! What would the world become if there is a vet who doesn't even know how to keep their pet properly? Its like a doctor who doesn't even know how to keep him/herself healthy. Very ridiculous I must say.

............so they don't care even though their stupid dirty little creature have killed your lutino? well the least you can is to kick that "pest" out of the flat!! Better yet, give it to the stray cats, they will really appreciate it. If your flatmate asked where did they stupid brainless rat go, just say "I dont care".

You are not just going to sit there and accept the fact that your beloved lutino got killed by "something" and do nothing about it, are you??? Please tell me.... :roll:

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Post by GreenJenny » Tue May 06, 2008 9:05 am

they play with those stupid rats in front of me. I know they have know idea of what im feeling.


Let the cat play with that stupid dirty thing in front of them, maybe this will make them realize how painful your feeling is when they play with it in front of you.

I know this because i loved talking about lutino to them but they just thought i was obsessed or something, and basically said birds are stupid, they have no thoughts, and have no brains


I seriously think these people are CRAZY!! They don't realize THEY are also obsessed with something, something that is much more dumb than bird.... what a retard..

You know what.. if you don't get rid of that rat soon then I think you are just being too....giving up... :(

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Post by Bella » Tue May 06, 2008 9:16 am

GreenJenny wrote:Well Bella I hope you will change your mind once your bird got attacked by a rat. Rat will be rat I really don't care even if they are domesticated whatsoever.

Oh okay so just because they are domesticated it means they are "cleaner" than the wild one? Lets see.... Dog, so lets compare a wild dog and a pet dog, their saliva, is domesticated dog's saliva cleaner than wild dog's saliva? I don't think so, they are still DOG and therefore they still carry the same type of bacteria. I love dog but this is is the fact and you CANT change the fact that their saliva is DIRTY. Same goes with rat, if they bite you they can infect you with disease, what if they bite bird? The result will be even worse.

I guess you will have to think WHO really post that "uneducated" post.


:roll: Yet another uneducated post.
First of all how the hell can you compair a rat to a dog!!!a pet dog still goes outside and rolls in dirt is at risk of catching things from being outside my rats live in a cage and are never at risk of catching anything they are disease free and guess what? im still here after a rat bite and im also disease free so mustnt be that dirty hey :roll:
A wild rat come in contact with human and animal waste and eats rotten food just to live so im guessing my rats saliva would be a little cleaner than a wild rat as they dont come in contact with these things or would you like to correct me on that?
The fact that they clean themselves after coming in contact with a humans does this mean they are dirty too?
I think that you need to educate yourself a little on rats before you comment next time i think you are forgetting that the owner of the rat is at fault not the rat!!!
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Post by leo » Tue May 06, 2008 9:28 am

i think take advantage of the rat would bebetter, sell it away and buy another bird :twisted:
will,yes,i hate the person...not really the rat...
i never really hate animals, they do think with their inscint and feeling,unlike human...

i would like to have a dog to guard my house than a security guard...something like that...

yup,back to topic,
lut, if you have to do somethin to realease you pain in heart,just do it carefully...
as we are angry, we do think harsly, and i know how angry you are about the "vet"...
yup, sell it away,atleast, you woulden't have to kill it, and said i don't know and i don't care if she asks...hahahaha :twisted:
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Post by GreenJenny » Tue May 06, 2008 9:46 am

I think that you need to educate yourself a little on rats


:lol: :lol: :lol: Muahahahahaha, what did you just say?? educate myself a little on rats??? :lol: :lol: yea right right, I should "educate" myself about rat.. whatever.

Like I care, I don't like them and I really don't need to waste time knowing the difference between domesticated and wild rat... don't get me wrong though, I have hamster and I love it, but when it comes to rat, its a yuck for me! whatever kind of rat it is... Remember that I'm talking about RAT not its smaller cousin.


First of all how the hell can you compair a rat to a dog!!!a pet dog still goes outside and rolls in dirt is at risk of catching things from being outside my rats live in a cage


Did I say Im talking about your rat? Im not... Most people let their rat go out freely, just like pet dog. Which mean they could come in contact with absolutely anything.

I knows its not the pet fault, its the owner, but you cant exactly get "rid" of the owner...

Oh I just want to let you know that rat and "mouse" are different, so why be soo mad when you have a pet mouse and not "rat"..

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Post by Bella » Tue May 06, 2008 10:19 am

GreenJenny wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Muahahahahaha, what did you just say?? educate myself a little on rats??? :lol: :lol: yea right right, I should "educate" myself about rat.. whatever.


So why comment on the rat for doing what is natural if you know nothing about them!!!



GreenJenny wrote:Did I say Im talking about your rat? Im not... Most people let their rat go out freely, just like pet dog. Which mean they could come in contact with absolutely anything.

No but when you talk about rats being "dirty little creatures" that normally means thats your general opinion of all rats if not then you should state that you only mean this one rat who you also know nothing about. I have never EVER heard of someone letting their rat just run around freely as the rat would probably not come back and any responsible owner would take them out on a lead and keep them from danger and anything that is unsafe just as you would with your bird.


GreenJenny wrote:Oh I just want to let you know that rat and "mouse" are different, so why be soo mad when you have a pet mouse and not "rat"..


This i just didnt understand i do not have a pet mouse i have two male very clean and intelligent rats and i know fine well that a rat and mouse are different :?

If your not willing to learn about rats then i think you should not comment about them without knowing the facts.

Would you go and get rid of or kill a dog for attacking a cat?
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Post by Oliver and Justin » Tue May 06, 2008 7:14 pm

Wow....



Poor Lutino. I am sure they feel bad enough about their bird dying. And having it gotten attacked by their rat. The rat probably doent know any better. (Not alot of knowledge of rats.)

Everyone has their opionion but lets not turn this into an arguement

This is a post for Lutino and remembering him :D


Not about the arguing about how rats are cool and rats are gross and blah.

Bella you have a great opinon on liking them and Green Jenny you have a great opinion not to like them. Just Let that be.

Bella will love rats.
Green Jenny will hate rats.

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Post by Oliver and Justin » Tue May 06, 2008 7:18 pm

GreenJenny wrote:
............so they don't care even though their stupid dirty little creature have killed your lutino? well the least you can is to kick that "pest" out of the flat!! Better yet, give it to the stray cats, they will really appreciate it. If your flatmate asked where did they stupid brainless rat go, just say "I dont care".

You are not just going to sit there and accept the fact that your beloved lutino got killed by "something" and do nothing about it, are you??? Please tell me.... :roll:




Its up to the owner what they want to do with the animal after it killed another.

My dog killed my first IRN. We did get rid of the dog but if it was a dog i was really really attached to i probably wouldn't.

Please dont judge a vet who lives with someone. The vet does what it does best with what it has. Its not for you to judge if its a good or bad vet.


Im not trying to get into the middle of this. I just didnt like this remark so i made my opinion on it. 8)

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Post by freaky » Wed May 07, 2008 12:52 am

sorry to hear about Lutino, not a good way to go.


lets be fair to the rat though, its not his fault. its reaction no was no different to an IRN's reaction to something it dosnt know, ie bite.

the blame rests with the flatmate, if the rat was put away properly it wouldn't have happened.



as to the comments about "dirty rats" grow up. its an animal, no different to your hamster, in other words its a rodent, seen by many as dirty rotten little things that need to be killed.

On the plus side, the rat is active during the day, are sociable, are highly intelligent, can be taught tricks and are great pets. it will also spend most of the day cleaning itself.

not like a hamster, sleeps all day, runs in a wheel thinking its going somewhere, and is that cleans it sleeps in its own p**s and s**t.


ive also got to add, in all the years ive known people with rats, and kept them i have never known anyone be so careless as to let one run around out side on its own. that to me would be a sign of someone failing to look after the animal properly.


i try not to get involved in arguments on the net, but when some one posts utter s**t about something the clearly have no understanding about it annoys me.

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Post by lutino » Wed May 07, 2008 1:19 am

Thanks for your replies everybody, but none of this will change what has happened. Everyone has there own opinions on rats, birds, dogs etc, but no one is right and no one is wrong.
Just to clarify things, the rat was let out by my flatemate in the lounge while she was watching tv. I was in the lounge also and my door must have been open, not that i even thought about it. I thought the rat was in the lounge the entire time until i heard the screams. I just keep thinking this could have been prevented :cry: , or i could have gone to bed earlier. Lutino didnt stand a chance, he was so sleepy. Even though i dont have an opinion on the rat, you must realise that it still hurts now when i see one.

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Post by freaky » Wed May 07, 2008 1:31 am

Lutino, i know what you mean about seeing the rat. i think anyone would be pi**ed off watching their flat mate playing with it, and not caring about how you feel.

there is no point in beating yourself up with "what ifs" and "if only", it wasnt your fault, your flatmate had her pet out, and was to busy turning her mind to mush watching telly to supervise it. the only one to blame is your flatmate. the rat did what rats do, the same as any other animal, if the telly was to important to miss the rat should have been put away.

the thing i cant get my head around is what sort of vet makes comments about birds being dumb, and then is incapable of supervising their pet correctly.

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Post by lutino » Wed May 07, 2008 2:53 am

oh sorry if im not being very clear :? . It wasnt actually her that said those comments about birds, it was my other flatemates.

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Post by Bella » Wed May 07, 2008 3:10 am

Hey justin i know what your saying but if i was a rat lover or not i would still say the same because alot of people come on here reading these posts and being given false facts that rats are dirty. Alot of people think they are dirty nasty disease carrying vermin but its far from the truth and i dont want people being given the wrong information.

Lutino you should talk it out with your flatmate and tell her how you feel she should be understanding im sure she must feel terrible that her lack of attention for her pet has led to you lose yours.
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Post by ryelle » Wed May 07, 2008 3:36 am

GreenJenny.... just shut up. theres a lot of rat owners on this forum that dont appreciate hearing your crap excuse of an opinion. just because you personally dont like them, doesnt mean you can judge every one of them in the same. Its like someone that gets bitten by a dog then dislikes dogs all together, when some can be CLEAN and NICE and NOT aggressive.

so just drop it. we know you disagree with the rat being allowed near the bird to attack it in the first place, but so do we all. but saying "throw it out the window" etc. is out of order. what if it was the other way round and the bird bit the rat and killed it. say it was your rat, would you throw the bird out of the window?[/list]

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Post by giantfoot_truck » Wed May 07, 2008 5:01 am

Rest in peace lutino, you will have a much better life in heaven.
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Post by Oliver and Justin » Wed May 07, 2008 5:09 am

Bella wrote:Hey justin i know what your saying but if i was a rat lover or not i would still say the same because alot of people come on here reading these posts and being given false facts that rats are dirty. Alot of people think they are dirty nasty disease carrying vermin but its far from the truth and i dont want people being given the wrong information.

Lutino you should talk it out with your flatmate and tell her how you feel she should be understanding im sure she must feel terrible that her lack of attention for her pet has led to you lose yours.


Bella i understand :D


My bad i miss understood how lutino died. I thought the rat belonged to lutinos owner not the vet.

My bad :oops:
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Post by alana8819 » Wed May 07, 2008 5:21 am

terribly sorry to hear of your loss, i know how you feel i lost my baby in march i still cry every day because something will remind me of him grieve let it all out and when the time is right find another baby to love lots of hugs.


on another note i am absolutely disgusted with the constant bickering, this guy has just lost his baby there is a time and a place to voice how you feel bringing personal opinions into a thread like this and fighting about something petty is disgraceful and not making this hard time any easier if you want to argue do it via private messages

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Post by leo » Wed May 07, 2008 9:09 am

alana, you was totally right...

well,i guess, we all not any much help of lutino if we are bikering at other fact of rat, like lut said, ir does not change the fact...

in any case, im agree that the owner is the one 100% at fault..
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Post by ryelle » Wed May 07, 2008 11:43 am

i know Alana. Sorry Lutino :(

i gota take my oldest rat to the vets tomorrow and im 100% sure that he isnt coming home with me. im devastated and cant stop crying.

Sorry Lutino for being so insensitive and arguing in your thread when all you needed was us to send our condolences and hugs :cry: :cry:

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Post by Oliver and Justin » Wed May 07, 2008 1:42 pm

alana8819 wrote:

on another note i am absolutely disgusted with the constant bickering, this guy has just lost his baby there is a time and a place to voice how you feel bringing personal opinions into a thread like this and fighting about something petty is disgraceful and not making this hard time any easier if you want to argue do it via private messages



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Post by bec » Wed May 07, 2008 3:31 pm

i agree the only thing of any importance on this post is lutino getting support & having a safe place to vent emotions caused by this tragdey
yes it was a terrible way to loose a treasure pet but the insulting of rat was not only uncalled for but disrepectful to the memory of lutino

lutino i dont know about anyone else but i wish to apologise for the way your post has been treated

rip lutino

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Post by Datsun and Family » Thu May 08, 2008 10:44 pm

Hey guys, lets keep this on track.

Lutino I am so sorry for your loss, nothing can bring him back and I can't even imagine how much that must hurt.

I am also sorry your flatmate is not supporting you, you can always come here for support.

Fly free sweet baby Lutino RIP
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Post by Lauren » Fri May 09, 2008 12:00 am

Oh gosh no. Lutino, disregard the bickering we care and are here for support. I'm so sorry for your loss and my thoughts are with you hun. *Hugs*.

I'm sorry I missed this too. The drama here needs to stop. Please stay in touch.
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Post by julie » Fri May 09, 2008 12:04 am

sorry for your loss.
I get really paranoid about my animals getting out and getting near the others. We have the birds,dogs,snake,rats,lizards. My main concern is the python getting out and hurting indie and Mika or my beardies whop are right beside him.

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Post by lutino » Fri May 09, 2008 3:14 am

Thanks for your support everyone. I kinda did so much crying in the first few days that theres nothing left to do. I kept waking up with blurry vision cos i cried so much :cry: . Its weird, it seems like so long ago now, even though its only a week. Its annoying though because i think my mind is doing something so i forget what happened and dont feel hurt. I think im grieving in an unusual way.
The night it happened i was in so much agony that i felt like i was going to throw up and have a heart attack. It was literally insanely fast that i thought i would end up in hospital. Miss the little dude. I took a couple of feathers to the dna testing place at my university. I'll be so shocked if lutino's a girl lol.
I just feel so lost without him, i dont even know what my emotions are about anything now.

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Post by Bella » Fri May 09, 2008 4:11 am

lutino wrote:I kinda did so much crying in the first few days that theres nothing left to do. I kept waking up with blurry vision cos i cried so much :cry: .

lutino wrote:I just feel so lost without him, i dont even know what my emotions are about anything now.

I know how your feeling hun when my dog passed before christmas all i could do was cry and think id seen her in the corner of my eye.
I know you may feel lost but lutino is right there in your heart. Things will get easier but you'll never forget all those good times.
Im sure little lutino is watching over you right now.

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Post by lutino » Fri May 09, 2008 2:27 pm

OMG i got the shocking news, the dna results only took 3 days. My little boy is actually a little girl!!! :D I dont mind the sex but she had so much male behaviour. Like regurgitating to the mirror, head butting it and the mating calls. Ive even seen the dance lol. Everyone i knew thought male too, but dna cant be wrong haha

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Post by laine » Sat May 10, 2008 1:53 am

I am so sorry for your loss. Keep all those lovely thoughts of your bird in mind and I am sure she knows how much you loved her. Hugs for you from Australia
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Post by lutino » Mon May 12, 2008 1:28 am

Thank you :)

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Post by greeny » Mon May 12, 2008 11:26 pm

I know what you are going through and how sad it is. I recently lost my best pal Tajj and I am not near over it. I am having his body cremated and the ashes are coming back to me. I kept some of his feathers too. I miss him often and it is so sad.

I relate to what you are going through. You did the best you could, it's just bad, bad luck what happened. I am sorry for you and Lutino. It will take time to get past it.

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Post by Photoguy77 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:21 am

Im very sorry to hear this, but aside from everyone else's poltically correct approach...I say kill the rat. In the least it will make you feel better, it will avenge your lutino's tragic death, and ultimately will teach your flatmate a lesson.

Maybe 2 wrongs dont make a right, but 2 negatives DO make a positive!

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Post by ryelle » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:42 am

i think this should be locked or deleted

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Post by Amazonite » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:01 pm

Photoguy77 wrote:Im very sorry to hear this, but aside from everyone else's poltically correct approach...I say kill the rat. In the least it will make you feel better, it will avenge your lutino's tragic death, and ultimately will teach your flatmate a lesson.

Maybe 2 wrongs dont make a right, but 2 negatives DO make a positive!


Photoguy saying it like that is very very nasty, no animal shoud really die for another animal no matter what, i know i said to kick the rat out but i was meaning if the flatmate isnt feeling sorry or anything maybe they arent a good flatmate, my mates bird got eaten my a cat we didnt kill the cat we caught it and took it to the spca as it was wild.

lutino i know its been a little while now, i hope you have photos of your little one still reminding you of those great times you had
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Post by leo » Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:30 pm

i agree with ryelle...block or del it

block it
i think lut already planing to get anther fid, and we should not discuss about the old metter anymore, if it is just to bring the painful memory to lut back
guys, if i offend you in any way, please let me know....don't keep it to yourself....okay.tango is FE-male.............

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