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something wrong with tango...please help

Postby leo » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:10 am

tango behaving a little odd these 2 days...
he a little tired but his grapping is weak...his volium of eating and dropping drop quiet obviousely...and his dropping is really watery light dirty green and he grabbed much tighter than he usually would...but he still chatty as normal...

anyway, the weather here is terrible, alot of my class mate fall sick..i can't be sure weather it will affect avian...

i have been trying to contact all the avian vet here and their charge is rather high...i cant even afford for the consultation fee...

what should i do ?
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Postby Bella » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:39 am

I wonder if there are any online avian vets who can advise you maybe you can do a search i am also trying to find one for you.
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Postby bec » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:25 am

i hope he gets well soon
kisses and hugs for him

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Postby leo » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:56 am

he a little tired but his grapping is weak


it should be hard, i mean "hard" instead of "weak"

i tried to find avian vet through the net, but couldn't...

he look really tired now, i don't know why...so much diffrent from the usual energetic fid...

he don't jump around and reun aboutlikehe usually do...
i put him to sleep much earlier than usual and feed hm with seeds so that he will eat more...

anyway, thanks alot for the advise...thnaks... i will keep updating
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Postby Bella » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:37 am

Maybe tango got used to not much exercise while you were gone. He might be doing too much now and is tired. Are you getting him to do alot of exercise?
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Postby leo » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:22 pm

hmm, may be, but i think not really alot of exercise...its like more time out the cage....

this morning, he look like normal, but there is no dropping under the sleeping pearch.....usual case, there will always be alot of dropping in the morning, but today no...
i change the paper last night brfore i put him back at about 7 pm...
so the paper is clean and yup, there is no dropping under hi sleaping pearch...

in the morning, his droppign also like yesterday, watery and green(like gray green IRN colour,...sorry, i don't know other way to describe)...

i am really worried...im going to try to bring him to vet later and see weather they can help...

thanks alot bella
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Postby pinkdevil » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:47 pm

Has Tango had a change in diet? Maybe he has eaten something that doesn't agree with him. :? Or caused a blockage? Has he been in contact with other birds to catch something from them?
Is there any chance that he could of ingested any bits of plastics, rope, or metal?

I hope he is ok.

Hmmm, lack of droppings is a little worrying :(

Problem with birds, by the time you notice something is wrong they are usually quite sick. Masters at deception.

Good luck at the vets.



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Postby Briony » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:22 pm

hey leo i hope tango get better real soon

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Postby leo » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:33 am

Has he been in contact with other birds to catch something from them?

no, he never get contact with any other bird since the mite peroblem
Is there any chance that he could of ingested any bits of plastics, rope, or metal?

im not too sure either...but, but i had checked everything like the toy...nothing can be eaten...but, i wonder is there any thing that hidden and eaten or something...im not too sure either...

thanks pink and briony...
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Postby julie » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:57 am

How is he today? has he done any droppings?


Are you able to get some paw paw/papaya. It is supposed to be very high in vitamins and minerals and is said to have healing properties as well.

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Postby leo » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:22 am

yup, i will get it tommorow, now hre shops are closed...

his dropping is still all the same as yesterday, watery green...

but after i come home and check... his dropping is too little for 1 day...his stomach look very empty and his feather no longer shiny...

anyway, he is stil very active and talkactive..but also crangky...

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Postby pinkdevil » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:36 am

Gee...poor little tango. I really hope he will be alright. :?

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Postby leo » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:47 am

thanks pink

OMG...i was typing ang i heard the sound burk,reall hard...then i look at the floor...it was tango fall from the table, in the position standing still and the wing fall,(not tug in) and look like in pain, even after a few second he recover to normal position...this happen a minute ago from now

but, he did it once before...long time ago when he was baby, he jump from the table without opening his wing...but he jump around happily after that fall

but...now,i don think he fall for the same reason as when he was baby...

im so worried...
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Postby leo » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:35 am

tango sleep on the floor of the cage and his freather fluff...

guys...please help...need your advice.......

howcome the ilness like attackign so fast?

OMG!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Bella » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:39 am

leo wrote:tango sleep on the floor of the cage and his freather fluff...

guys...please help...need your advice.......

howcome the ilness like attackign so fast?

OMG!!!!!!!!!

It sounds to me like you need to get tango to a vet VERY soon
He is getting worse and worse very quickly.
I hope tango is ok
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Postby julie » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:45 am

please borrow money off family members ect to get him to the vet ASAP. He really needs to see a vet urgently

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Postby leo » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:45 am

i thingk he is in stomach ache cause there is something going in his stomach...my uncle told me organic powder( for human ) which can help to clear intestine and help to detox our body could do good to bird...it is very high in fibre...maybe i should try to give him alittle...

now borrowing money from friend to bring him to vet tmr in case of the worst.....
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Postby leo » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:46 am

no vet is open now...but he active again when i on the light...

he just not willing to sleep on pearch( which sign of sick bird)...
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Postby julie » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:46 am

I'm not too sure about giving him human stomach medicine, I actually wouldn't do it.

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Postby julie » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:47 am

has he ever been wormed since you have had him??

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Postby leo » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:48 am

its not medicine,its just organic food to give us enough fiber as we don usually get...and made of been and seed, and some. other natural stuff...

he never been wormed
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Postby bec » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:57 am

poor baby! :cry: hope he feels better soon
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Postby leo » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:17 am

thnaks guys and bac...

he eat the organic food well, i guess he liked it alot...
then i off the ligth again so he can rest well...he climb up to the sleeping pearch...i was so happy...

but, just for a few sec, he climb down and fluff again... :x

i just don't know what the hell is going round...how come it just come like this !!!!!!!!!!!

feel like screaming !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby pinkdevil » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:53 pm

Sorry to say leo but tango really doesn't sound too good.

Like julie said, ask someone for money if you have to. Poor little tango sounds like he is very unhappy and not well :(

Wish I could help more :?

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Postby leo » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:18 pm

i put a whit paper underneath him...

int he mornign, i found him on his pearch :o

some of the dropping look like being passed when he is on the floor..it is really black, but some is the watery green, but this time isn't that watery...and seemed like it is passed from the pearch...

but at least he does have some thing to passed out...
in the morning, he start to preen his tail alittle( i think it is a good sign)...looks like the organic food work well on him

i will see what hapen later after school...my friend will pass the money in school...

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Postby Lauren » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:25 pm

:( Oh dear Tango! I know it hard getting to a vet when there arent many around. I hope you get lil Tango to an avian vet soon. He doesnt sound healthy right now. I do hope hes ok. I know your doing everything you can for him right now. My thoughts are with you Leo and Tango. Keep us updated.
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Postby Datsun and Family » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:03 pm

Sending all my healing thoughts Tangos way, please try to get him to a vet as soon as you can!

Birds get sick very quickly and often hide their illness from us so him showing signs of being unwell makes this very bad.

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Postby inept » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:26 am

Are the black droppings fresh or are they dry? It's normal for them to be black when they dry, but if they are pitch black fresh out of the bird that means he could be bleeding in his stomach or intestines. Digested blood is black and fresh black poop probably means blood.

I know you'd like to think that the organic fiber meal or whatnot has helped, and maybe it has, but the bottom line is that there is obviously a very serious problem with Tango and these sorts of things don't often go away without medical help.

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Postby leo » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:26 am

thanks alot...im still in school...

the lecture holds us back...there is some talk he want us to attend, its about the graduation(this is my grad year)...
attendance is compulsory...what the hell...

i will keep update...
im really enxious and scared for the whole day...

last time i had dove and rooster which show i little sign of illness and just die after i come home from school...it bring me horror, even they are not tame, fas less tame that tango...

and i don't know what gona be if it happen to tango :x
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Postby leo » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:52 am

finally, im home...tango was fine...getitng better after the organic...there is lot of black dropping...really alot and some of the normal dropping again :lol: ...i took some sample of the black dropping which passed out last night to my girlfriend's lab to investigate what is it...she is a heath science student..


she will give me the result tommorow or monday night latest...haha...feel much releave,but i will feed him with the organinc again tonight...

he is getting normal and his feather look brighter than last night...

about the vet, just now i found 1, accep but not specialised in avian,is it safe?...

i checked with my friend's dad who "love" bird as well...he said
"i dont bring my bird to vet, usually sick bird will just die, then i just have to buy new 1, y bother bringing them to vet...save all the trouble, not worth it"

i was stunt but i cant do anything...then he drive me home as i want to get home asap...and now im home...tango getting better....waw...so happy :lol: :D
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Postby bec » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:27 am

glad hes getting better kisses for tango

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Postby greeny » Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:07 am

I hope Tango is doing better. SOunds like he ate something bad for him. Hopefully it's a one time event and now he will recover. Good luck Tango!

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Postby Briony » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:57 pm

Yay soums like he is getting better :):):) cuddles for tango :D

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Postby leo » Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:13 pm

yup....he is...thansk everybody...thanks for all your support, those help really alot
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Postby Darlene » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:12 pm

Please try Aloe Vera detox formula, or just plain aloe vera. It comes in a bottle in liquid form. You can get it at health food stores. Mix the aloe vera with baby chick formula and use a hand feeding syringe to give it to your bird. This is a life saver for so many problems and illnesses. It detoxes his system and is soothing and healing. It is organic and you cant over dose. You can just give the plain aloe vera after a few hand feedings. This has saved a lot of sick parrots. The aloe vera detox formula will help to clean out any toxins your IRN may be dealing with. You should notice an immediate improvement. Use the aloe vera detox formula first. Then follow up with just plain aloe vera added to food and water. When vets have given up on a sick bird, this aloe vera treatment has brought them back. It worked for our Luna and I still give it to her routinely to keep her healthy.

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Postby leo » Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:40 am

thanks alor darlene,i will try to get those tommorow...

u mention,it can be taken over dose?
so how much should i give him ?

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Postby Lauren » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:44 pm

I'm so happy Tango appears to be feeling better. I hope all is well with him. :wink:
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Postby leo » Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:24 am

thanks alot lauren..
im still trying to watch on him... :lol:
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Postby Darlene » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:03 am

Hi Leo,
I hope Tango is over the worst of what ever is wrong. The Aloe Vera is a natural organic juice extracted from the pulp of the plant. Aloe Vera is known as the miracle plant becouse it has strong healing and soothing properties. It is also called the Burn plant. It relieves the pain of burns and protects against infection. When taken internally, it is healing and you can not over dose with this. So give Tango as much as you can get down him and at least three times a day for two or three days.
there is also a Alo Vera detox formula, that I give our Luna every six monthes. It helps remove toxins from your birds system. It helps reduce liver and kidney toxins. And after the detox treatment I give Luna just plain organic Aloe vera juice twice a week. When Luna was injured the vet treated her for shock and pain and sent her home. I hand fed her with baby chick formula and put the aole vera detox formula in it. And I still give her the plain aloe vera juice and the vet couldn't believe how she has healed and is so healthy so far. I really believe this is what helped our Luna survive her injury. I hope this information will help get Tango on the road to recovery and used routinely it can help keep him healthy. Aloe vera is not an expensive item and a jar goes a long way. You will need to get the aloe vera detox formula and the plain organic aloe vera. You can find it in health food stores. :)

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Postby leo » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:46 am

hi darlene, thanks alot...
i couldnot find the organic plain alovera formula...they give me alovera juice, canned or hand made 1...they also give the real raw big alovera leave...

can those be used instead?
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Postby leo » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:50 am

ooo, 1 more,today after i came home from sch, his anus feather wet and the dropping a little too watery again !!

but he behave normally, and agian, i put him early to sleep...
OMG,like alot of my friend get sick, also my tango, i think sick again!!!

please help
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Postby Bella » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:08 am

I think you really need him to see a vet if he keeps getting sick he could be really ill and hiding it.
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Postby Darlene » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:29 am

Hi Leo
The Aloe vera leaf or aloe vera juice is OK to give to Tango. It is a natural organic food suppliment that won't do harm. But if Tango is showing signs of not stabilizing or staying better, you need to get him to a vet on an emergancy visit. By the time a bird acts sick, they can often be too weak to recover . So time is important. In an emergancy, vets will see your pet first and then work out the payment arrangements. We are all hanycapped in detecting illness with our parrot, since they mask or cover up that they are sick. So when they actually act sick, they are very ill and need emergancy treatment. The Indian Ringnecks are hardy and strong and not usually ones to get sick easily. I hope Tango will recover from whatever he is dealing with.

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Postby celtic_aura » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:13 am

You really, really need to get Tango to a vet ASAP. Even if it something he can't recover from, the vet may be able to give him something to help in case Tango is suffering. He could have been sick for a while and hiding it from you. But I can't stress enough how much this bird needs to be seen by a vet.

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Postby leo » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:43 am

the vet said he just cought a flue and has dierrhare...
he gave him some med but i m not sure weather to give him...the doctor seems to be a cheap doctor who just give aspirin to any patient who has head ache, he is expensive though...

i dont know the med name, anyway, my gut feeling said, don give!!

i give him ginger honey solution and the organic fiber at night...
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Postby Darlene » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:15 pm

Hi Leo,
I really hope the vet that saw your baby knows for sure that Tango just has diahrea. Most of the time they do a lab test to be sure of what your bird is suffering from. But your baby can become dehydrated fast from diahrea. If Tango has diahrea, the aloe vera can certainly help him to get better. It won't hurt him. But if the diahrea is caused from a virus or infection, it can just get worse and weaken him. Most avian vets will weigh your parrot to see if he is getting under weight. Weight loss is one way they tell if there is something wrong. I hope you don't think I am being a bother. I just want to help in any way I can. And I hope you and your little guy get through this. And there is a happy ending.

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Postby leo » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:15 am

hi, thnaks darlene...
you are not a bother at all, and don't ever say or even think about it...because none of member here are...

i really think i just waste my money on that vet,...well tango is like normal, but the dropping is watery sometimes the water is chalky...his apatite down alot...and i just touch the breast bone, last time, he was really fat, now, i can touch a little bit of sharpness on the breast bone...he is losing weight...

im really worried !!!
but his apatite for bread and sunflower seed has not gone down, he still crave for those treat and willng to do trick for those treat...
only for pelet...is it posible that he is sick of it and need a little shift of main menu?

aniway, some of his dropping in the cage was quiet okay, some normal, some not...
if i took him out, the 1st dropping after come out from the cage is normal, but the following are not...

lauren, if i was not wrong, you mentioned in the other post saying u have a parot guide bird that shows the bird dropping picture...
if it is not a bother, can you help me post the picture of the dropping please...i think im hopeless, the vet is not any help,...please...
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Postby Oliver and Justin » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:00 pm

Either he is sick

OR

I was thinking. Birds can get stressed.

I wonder if he was really really stressed while you were gone for a month + now that you are back he is relaxing and maybe still uptight.

He could be sick though.

But i would say that could be a lil possibility.

Since it happened when you got home.

Just a thought.
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Postby giantfoot_truck » Thu May 01, 2008 3:43 am

OMG How did I miss this thread?? I didn't tango is in bad condition.. Is he doing better now? I will pray for his recovery, wish I can do more than that...

Isn't there any other vet? You should look for a better vet, there must be another one, ask your friend who owns pet or anyone who knows about the location of vet in singapore.

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Postby leo » Thu May 01, 2008 6:59 am

there are alot of vets... but most of them only take cat and dogs...

today i went to another vet...he said may be the weather is too hot and it make tango drink alot of water,..then he full of water and refuse to eat much...
he said better to go for lab test...but it would be too costly, i got to find more money before proceeding futhur...

anyway,i feed him with a slice of whole meal bread today, and he likes it...the dropping slightly improve...
though,some are still watery...thanks alot
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