Can someone ID these mutations?

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Can someone ID these mutations?

Postby Karen145 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:30 am

I'm looking at buying a couple of young ringnecks but I'm unsure of the coloration. One looks like turquoise and the other some sort of grey. Can anyone identify these for me?
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Re: Can someone ID these mutations?

Postby rick_s0910 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:16 am

Hi there! To me they look like a Turquoise blue and a Turquoise Grey

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Re: Can someone ID these mutations?

Postby Karen145 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:07 am

So does that mean the Turquoise is split to blue? Or that it's got two blue genes but the Turquoise is masking the blue? Just trying to figure everything out so I can input it correctly in my genetics calculator.

Also, how do you know if a grey is single or double factor? Is there any way to tell visually?

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Re: Can someone ID these mutations?

Postby rick_s0910 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:38 am

Turquoise is dominant towards blue. You can say it's combined, but in the genetic calculator you put it in as turquoise split to blue. You only put turquoise by itself if it is a DF turquoise. As for knowing if Grey is DF, you can't tell by looking at it. You'll find out because all your babies will be grey.
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Re: Can someone ID these mutations?

Postby Karen145 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:39 pm

Thank you Rick!

I'm also talking to a breeder that has this bird available. She's calling it "teal." Parents are "Dad was blue. Mom was green body yellow head grey wing tips." and it has "cobalt gray wingtips." Definitely looks darker than blue but I'm not sure what it is.

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Re: Can someone ID these mutations?

Postby rick_s0910 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:25 pm

I have some knowledge on how ringneck genetics work, but just from reading. I'm not great at visually guessing all mutations. I personally haven't heard of teal. Green body, yellow head and Grey wing tips sounds like a Pallid hen. Since he's blue, the mom has to be split to blue. As for the Blue dad... there's several variations of the blue mutation: Blue, Deep Blue, Dark factor Blue (Cobalt). In the blue series I have only owned blue and recently violets and a Misty/khaki blue, But like I said, I'm not great at visually telling them apart. I only have two Violets and they both look different. Sadly I can't tell if one is regular violet and the other one a Violet Cobalt or a DF Violet. They're the only 2 violet ringnecks I've ever seen in person lol

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Re: Can someone ID these mutations?

Postby Karen145 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:35 am

Thanks. Unfortunately a lot of the people I've approached don't even seem to know what they have themselves, which is frustrating to say the least. I don't want to be one of them so I'm trying my best to identify anything coming into my aviaries.

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Re: Can someone ID these mutations?

Postby rick_s0910 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:47 am

I know what you mean. I've seen ringnecks advertised as neon green and to me it looked like a normal green! The closest I've seen to "neon" or "highlighter" green/blue and only in pictures, are opalines.

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Re: Can someone ID these mutations?

Postby rick_s0910 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:12 am

Idk if you've seen this site before, http://www.psittacula-world.com/EN/Muta ... rameri.htm but it has pics of some mutations and descriptions on how they look. It also includes how the mutation is inherited. Some mutations have a link that says "series " it takes you to different variations of the same mutation. I hope it helps

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Re: Can someone ID these mutations?

Postby Karen145 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:58 am

Thanks! That's one reference I didn't have.


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