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Mad Max
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Re: Can someone help please?

Post by Mad Max » Fri May 30, 2014 8:07 am

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1,0 ino x 0,1 cinnamon Grey green
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% from all 1,0

1,0 50% green /cinnamon /ino
1,0 50% Grey green /cinnamon /ino
---------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 50% ino
0,1 50% ino Grey

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1,0 Grey turquoiseBlue x 0,1 cinnamon Grey green
================================================
% from all 1,0

1,0 12.5% green /cinnamon /blue
1,0 12.5% green /cinnamon /turquoise
1,0 25% Grey green /cinnamon /blue
1,0 25% Grey green /cinnamon /turquoise
1,0 12.5% Grey(DF) green /cinnamon /blue
1,0 12.5% Grey(DF) green /cinnamon /turquoise
------------------------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 12.5% green /blue
0,1 12.5% green /turquoise
0,1 25% Grey green /blue
0,1 25% Grey green /turquoise
0,1 12.5% Grey(DF) green /blue
0,1 12.5% Grey(DF) green /turquoise

============================================
1,0 pallid turquoiseBlue x 0,1 pallid green
============================================
% from all 1,0

1,0 50% pallid green /blue
1,0 50% pallid green /turquoise
--------------------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 50% pallid green /blue
0,1 50% pallid green /turquoise

=================================
1,0 blue x 0,1 Grey turquoiseBlue
=================================
% from all 1,0

1,0 25% blue
1,0 25% Grey blue
1,0 25% Grey turquoiseBlue
1,0 25% turquoiseBlue
---------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 25% blue
0,1 25% Grey blue
0,1 25% Grey turquoiseBlue
0,1 25% turquoiseBlue

============================
1,0 turquoiseBlue x 0,1 blue
============================
% from all 1,0

1,0 50% blue
1,0 50% turquoiseBlue
----------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 50% blue
0,1 50% turquoiseBlue

===========================================
1,0 pallid Grey blue x 0,1 pallid Grey blue
===========================================
% from all 1,0

1,0 25% pallid blue
1,0 50% pallid Grey blue
1,0 25% pallid Grey(DF) blue
-------------------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 25% pallid blue
0,1 50% pallid Grey blue
0,1 25% pallid Grey(DF) blue

If The pied Hen is Ressive Pied

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1,0 dilute D blue x 0,1 pied blue
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% from all 1,0

1,0 50% blue /pied /dilute
1,0 50% D blue /pied /dilute
---------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 50% blue /pied /dilute
0,1 50% D blue /pied /dilute

If The Pied is a Dominant Pied

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1,0 dilute D blue x 0,1 Pied blue
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% from all 1,0

1,0 25% blue /dilute
1,0 25% D blue /dilute
1,0 25% Pied blue /dilute
1,0 25% Pied D blue /dilute
---------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 25% blue /dilute
0,1 25% D blue /dilute
0,1 25% Pied blue /dilute
0,1 25% Pied D blue /dilute

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1,0 clearhead fallow turquoiseBlue x 0,1 cleartail blue
=======================================================
% from all 1,0

1,0 50% blue /cleartail /clearhead fallow
1,0 50% turquoiseBlue /cleartail /clearhead fallow
-------------------------------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 50% blue /cleartail /clearhead fallow
0,1 50% turquoiseBlue /cleartail /clearhead fallow

===========================================
1,0 pallid Grey blue x 0,1 pallid Grey blue
===========================================
% from all 1,0

1,0 25% pallid blue
1,0 50% pallid Grey blue
1,0 25% pallid Grey(DF) blue
-------------------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 25% pallid blue
0,1 50% pallid Grey blue
0,1 25% pallid Grey(DF) blue

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1,0 blue x 0,1 pallid Grey blue
===============================
% from all 1,0

1,0 50% blue /pallid
1,0 50% Grey blue /pallid
-------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 50% blue
0,1 50% Grey blue

=============================================
1,0 Violet D blue x 0,1 clearhead fallow blue
=============================================
% from all 1,0

1,0 25% blue /clearhead fallow
1,0 25% D blue /clearhead fallow
1,0 25% Violet blue /clearhead fallow
1,0 25% Violet D blue /clearhead fallow
---------------------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 25% blue /clearhead fallow
0,1 25% D blue /clearhead fallow
0,1 25% Violet blue /clearhead fallow
0,1 25% Violet D blue /clearhead fallow

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1,0 cleartail blue x 0,1 cleartail D green
==========================================
% from all 1,0

1,0 50% cleartail D green /blue
1,0 50% cleartail green /blue
------------------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 50% cleartail D green /blue
0,1 50% cleartail green /blue


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1,0 cleartail turquoiseBlue x 0,1 cleartail turquoiseBlue
=========================================================
% from all 1,0

1,0 25% cleartail blue
1,0 25% cleartail turquoise
1,0 50% cleartail turquoiseBlue
---------------------------------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 25% cleartail blue
0,1 25% cleartail turquoise
0,1 50% cleartail turquoiseBlue

If Ressive Pied

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1,0 dilute D blue x 0,1 pied blue
=================================
% from all 1,0

1,0 50% blue /pied /dilute
1,0 50% D blue /pied /dilute
---------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 50% blue /pied /dilute
0,1 50% D blue /pied /dilute

=======================================================
1,0 clearhead fallow turquoiseBlue x 0,1 cleartail blue
=======================================================
% from all 1,0

1,0 50% blue /cleartail /clearhead fallow
1,0 50% turquoiseBlue /cleartail /clearhead fallow
-------------------------------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 50% blue /cleartail /clearhead fallow
0,1 50% turquoiseBlue /cleartail /clearhead fallow

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1,0 Grey turquoiseBlue /cinnamon x 0,1 pallid turquoiseBlue
============================================================
% from all 1,0

1,0 6.25% blue /cinnamon /pallid
1,0 6.25% blue /pallid
1,0 6.25% Grey blue /cinnamon /pallid
1,0 6.25% Grey blue /pallid
1,0 6.25% Grey turquoise /cinnamon /pallid
1,0 6.25% Grey turquoise /pallid
1,0 12.5% Grey turquoiseBlue /cinnamon /pallid
1,0 12.5% Grey turquoiseBlue /pallid
1,0 6.25% turquoise /cinnamon /pallid
1,0 6.25% turquoise /pallid
1,0 12.5% turquoiseBlue /cinnamon /pallid
1,0 12.5% turquoiseBlue /pallid
------------------------------------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 6.25% blue
0,1 6.25% cinnamon blue
0,1 6.25% cinnamon turquoise
0,1 12.5% cinnamon turquoiseBlue
0,1 6.25% cinnamon Grey blue
0,1 6.25% cinnamon Grey turquoise
0,1 12.5% cinnamon Grey turquoiseBlue
0,1 6.25% Grey blue
0,1 6.25% Grey turquoise
0,1 12.5% Grey turquoiseBlue
0,1 6.25% turquoise
0,1 12.5% turquoiseBlue


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1,0 D blue x 0,1 turquoiseBlue
==============================
% from all 1,0

1,0 25% blue
1,0 25% D blue
1,0 25% D turquoiseBlue
1,0 25% turquoiseBlue
------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 25% blue
0,1 25% D blue
0,1 25% D turquoiseBlue
0,1 25% turquoiseBlue

ErnieisAwesome
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Re: Can someone help please?

Post by ErnieisAwesome » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:20 pm

Nljdaffue wrote:I have a list and hope someone can help me to more or less what offsprings I can get?

M) Latino
F) Greygreen Cinnamon

M) Grey Turq
F) Greygreen Cinnamon

M) Blue Rainbow
F) Yellow Lacewing

M) Blue
F) Grey Turq

M) Turq
F) Blue

M) Grey Lacewing
F) Grsy Lacewing

M) Blue
F) Grey Rainbow

M) Cobalt Violet
F) Clearhead Fallow Blue

M) Cleartail Blue
F) Darkgreen Cleartail

M) Cleartail Blue Turq
F) Cleartail Blue Turq

M) Dilute Cobalt
F) Blue Pied

M) Clearhead Fallow Turq
F) Cleartail Blue

M) Silver Turq
F) Blue Rainbow

M) Cobalt
F) Blue Turq

I don't know the splits to the birds as all was bought random and from auctions. Please help!
WHOA ! All of these variations just look like Chinese to me . Hahah My IRN is just plain ole green !

Kappa
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Re: Can someone help please?

Post by Kappa » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:22 pm

From that information the only thing that will change is the possibility that he has inherited the cleartail gene from his mother. You would need to test mate him with a cleartail hen to prove if this is true. If this is true, then with your current pairing to a clearheaded fallow, will mean that there is a chance that you may produce double split offspring, that is that they can be split for cleartail and clearheaded fallow.
The pied is a dominant mutation and therefore will not play a part here, as he is not visually a pied.

It's something you need to keep in mind if you intend to breed with the offspring that come from him.

If your birds are not related, it may be a better idea to put your blue cleartail hen to him and put the blue clearheaded fallow hen to your turquoise clearheaded cock. That is unless you are actually trying to breed double splits.

You have plent of options, as you could also put your dark green cleartail hen to him, and if he is split cleartail you have the chance of breeding df dark green cleartails, or even mauve cleartails, if the hen is split blue.

I hope that helps.

mickeyd
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Re: Can someone help please?

Post by mickeyd » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:08 pm

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1,0 cleartail turquoiseBlue x 0,1 cleartail turquoiseBlue
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% from all 1,0

1,0 25% cleartail blue
1,0 25% cleartail turquoise
1,0 50% cleartail turquoiseBlue
---------------------------------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 25% cleartail blue
0,1 25% cleartail turquoise
0,1 50% cleartail turquoiseBlue

Ok so the pair has mated and the hen has 5 eggs 3 of them being fertile. The first 2 hatch yesterday and I notice that the 1 baby is a slighter other pink than the other chick and has red eyes. I don't know the history of the parents so can this be from there side? And can I look for a "Clearhead fallow Cleartail" ? I know that maybe I would have to wait a few weeks to see what colour pops out.

Thanx

Lizel

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Re: Can someone help please?

Post by madas » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:39 pm

mickeyd wrote:=========================================================
1,0 cleartail turquoiseBlue x 0,1 cleartail turquoiseBlue
=========================================================
% from all 1,0

1,0 25% cleartail blue
1,0 25% cleartail turquoise
1,0 50% cleartail turquoiseBlue
---------------------------------------------------------
% from all 0,1

0,1 25% cleartail blue
0,1 25% cleartail turquoise
0,1 50% cleartail turquoiseBlue

Ok so the pair has mated and the hen has 5 eggs 3 of them being fertile. The first 2 hatch yesterday and I notice that the 1 baby is a slighter other pink than the other chick and has red eyes. I don't know the history of the parents so can this be from there side? And can I look for a "Clearhead fallow Cleartail" ? I know that maybe I would have to wait a few weeks to see what colour pops out.

Thanx

Lizel
CHF is one possible explanation for a red eyed baby in the nest. The other could be NSLino which isn't very uncommon. These season i have heard least of 4 NSLino resp. NSLalbino here in Germany. But as you said for a correct identifaction you need to wait some weeks until the pin feathers open up. Do you have some pics of these youngsters?

thx in advance.

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Re: Can someone help please?

Post by mickeyd » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:46 pm

I could take a few pics and of the parents if that will help

Thanx

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Re: Can someone help please?

Post by madas » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:56 pm

mickeyd wrote:I could take a few pics and of the parents if that will help

Thanx
Would be nice.

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Re: Can someone help please?

Post by mickeyd » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:47 pm


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Re: Can someone help please?

Post by mickeyd » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:50 pm

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Re: Can someone help please?

Post by madas » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:42 am

How do the eyes of the parents look like? For what i can see from the pics tehy have no visible iris. Is it true?

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Re: Can someone help please?

Post by mickeyd » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:55 am

It will seem to be so.

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Re: Can someone help please?

Post by mickeyd » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:12 pm

This is the second pair that had 2 chicks so far 1 being red eye. I was told that the female is pallid and the male df Turq Blue is it true?

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Any input would help.

Thank U

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