Food for Thought - Idea is hypothetical !!!
What if Deep blue IS Saphire ?? or should we call it "Diamond" ?
in other words; a parblue mutation
Scale of parblues from greener to bluer:
emerald, turquoise, indigo, deep?
*That would explain the bizzare offspring that Willy is getting from Deep blue X Emerald
2 parblue mutations meet ; we invenitably will see increase in psittacine enough to be visible
**It would also explain some of the green patches visible on some of the Deep blue's feathers
*** It would explain why the green deep is normal green because it is in fact green/deep
**** ?Under UV is it fluorescent?, as all prablues do? but again no visible psittacine so it might not.
***** Df deep green photo is probably a parblue homo. or wildtype (photo clearly taken in poor light conditions and flash used closeup)
I have tried to adjust a pic of my df parblue to simulate the pic of the df deep green,
i had to take a pic late afternoon no sun, using paint.net
i used Auto-Level (lighting) and Hue/Sat: H=-34;S=107;L=-28. I've done this so we get an idea why the original pic looks like a misty, it was simply the way the pic was taken; perhaps on purpose.
* if this was the case then we would need to rethink how parblue interacts with Blue A locus.
something like: homozygous deep + blue = df deepblue phenotype
Could be that Deep is bending the parblue rules just as Emerald might do.
Even if it ticks all the boxes, it just means it fits the profile, does not automatically makes it so.
Further tests we can do, mixing deep with INO - we might get a deepino and also deep grey (underway)
I have these "parblue df" hens and through email i discussed with Molossus & Willy why are these birds so dark colored, have light feet n nails and fairly dark overall color.
It is interesting to note that both have thought about deep blue as being in the bird.
You see, deep has come up in a parblue discussion, sure it was mentioned simply because of the dark color in the flights n tail,
but it does ring a bell and these birds might just be deep(parblue) + 1 more parblue
Last conversation with Ron, he mentioned Saphire quiet often and he can see it, he can.. since he has the most deeps and indigo to experiment with.
it also makes more sense the grey-black bird he bred from a grey pied c X indigo blue? or indigo deep? hen
Why does young deepblue look so light colored (like an Indigo) and darkens as it gets older?
http://parakeet.me/irn/d/deeps3se.jpg
Why the deepblue pallid in certain light conditions when young, it looks 80% less bluer almost light grey
pics taken 26dec12
http://parakeet.me/irn/d/deepbluepallid26Dec12.JPG
the next 2 pics have been Auto-Leveled (lighting) in Paint.net, note the wings and tail
http://parakeet.me/irn/d/deeppallid1AL.jpg
http://parakeet.me/irn/d/deeppallidAL.jpg
pic taken recently
http://parakeet.me/irn/d/deeppld.jpg
Why don't we have deepblue in Cleartails yet? Don't know!! but i suspect it is completely washed away somehow and it is not visible or nobody has done it yet
Recio suspected it and he was probably right all along, deep grey will be a darker bird combined colors, deep x ino will be a deepino.
He's done most of the work he was just waiting for us to confirm certain breeding results to piece the puzzle together.
Indirectly most of us helped come to this conclusion.
Time will tell if it is correct.
I hope i am not digging in the wrong place, and if the above is not so, i don't mean to upset anyone but to work together and eliminate this possibility.
I reckon parblue is a big playground and has plenty more to offer.