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What mutation?

Post by Skyes_crew » Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:35 am

After searching through breeders I've narrowed my search down. This is one of the birds I'm interested in. Can someone please tell me what mutation it is? Thanks :)

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Re: What mutation?

Post by Dave Jacas » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:53 am

Hi
Looks like a turquoise blueino popularly call a (creamino)

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Re: What mutation?

Post by Mad Max » Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:07 am

Yes I agree looks like a Creamino IE. Turquoise Albino :D

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Re: What mutation?

Post by Skyes_crew » Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:03 am

Will the bird have more overall yellow as an adult? And if you could choose, would you choose the creamino, a DF violet or a blue lacewing? Thanks :)
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Re: What mutation?

Post by Lushen1600 » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:44 pm

I would choose a DF Violet

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Re: What mutation?

Post by Skyes_crew » Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:25 pm

These are the DF violets I'm looking at.

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Re: What mutation?

Post by sheyd » Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:58 pm

Yep, Creamino (Turquoiseblue Ino)

Depends on what your goals are- but yeah, I'd also choose a DF Violet :)

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Re: What mutation?

Post by Skyes_crew » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:50 pm

If I were going for a violet green...would I pair sf violet X green or DF violet X green. Or do I have it all wrong :)
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Re: What mutation?

Post by sheyd » Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:25 pm

Skyes_crew wrote:If I were going for a violet green...would I pair sf violet X green or DF violet X green. Or do I have it all wrong :)
Why not just buy a VioletGreen? They'll be about the same price as a sfViolet(Blue).

Option 2 will breed 100% sfViolets- but could be of either series as you won't know if the Green bird is split for Blue

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Re: What mutation?

Post by Skyes_crew » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:01 pm

sheyd wrote:
Why not just buy a VioletGreen? They'll be about the same price as a sfViolet(Blue).

Option 2 will breed 100% sfViolets- but could be of either series as you won't know if the Green bird is split for Blue

I would love to be able to buy one. I seem to live in the land of the idiotic breeder though. No one I speak to has any clue what the parents of the babies are. I'm not anywhere near being able to visually identify most colors. I know the basics. I was lucky to find the one breeder that had violets both sf and df. But when I ask the local breeders about getting certain colors they have no idea what I'm talking about. The one ad for a creamino I saw had the bird listed as a white bird with some yellow. I had to come to this forum to get the bird ID'd because the owner had no idea. I'm a bit frustrated and I'm very OCD so I figure if I want something a certain way, might as well do it myself. So if you could guide me in how to achieve a VioletGreen I would appreciate it. I've bred birds before, but never ringnecks. And I want to breed for the sole purpose of getting a VioletGreen. Thanks :). Melissa
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Re: What mutation?

Post by sheyd » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:09 pm

Skyes_crew wrote:
sheyd wrote:
Why not just buy a VioletGreen? They'll be about the same price as a sfViolet(Blue).

Option 2 will breed 100% sfViolets- but could be of either series as you won't know if the Green bird is split for Blue

I would love to be able to buy one. I seem to live in the land of the idiotic breeder though. No one I speak to has any clue what the parents of the babies are. I'm not anywhere near being able to visually identify most colors. I know the basics. I was lucky to find the one breeder that had violets both sf and df. But when I ask the local breeders about getting certain colors they have no idea what I'm talking about. The one ad for a creamino I saw had the bird listed as a white bird with some yellow. I had to come to this forum to get the bird ID'd because the owner had no idea. I'm a bit frustrated and I'm very OCD so I figure if I want something a certain way, might as well do it myself. So if you could guide me in how to achieve a VioletGreen I would appreciate it. I've bred birds before, but never ringnecks. And I want to breed for the sole purpose of getting a VioletGreen. Thanks :). Melissa
Make sure that wherever you get the bird/s from is reputable breeder..as there are people out there that will deliberately give misinformation to make a sale.
My advise to you (before you go buying) would be to make sure you know the difference between a 'good' sfViolet and a dfViolet, as a 'good' sfViolet could be mistaken for a dfViolet.

option 2 (from you senarios) is the easiest and quickest - but most expensive way of creating a VioletGreen. - GL

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Re: What mutation?

Post by trabots » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:59 pm

These are the DF violets I'm looking at.
Further to good SF Violets and poor DF Violets, the image posted looks to me like DF in front and SF in back.

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Re: What mutation?

Post by Skyes_crew » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:18 pm

Thank you for all of your advice and insight, it is much appreciated. I will think this over and see if I can come up with what works best for me and the birds.

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Re: What mutation?

Post by Skyes_crew » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:35 pm

Also...can you give me a lesson on identifying the differences between sf and df violets?

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Re: What mutation?

Post by Skyes_crew » Fri May 03, 2013 5:05 pm

I decided on this bird...what do you think? He came home with me today. I named him hamlet. Also how much do these birds normally run? Thanks :)

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Re: What mutation?

Post by trabots » Sat May 04, 2013 5:05 am

That bird looks like the darker of the 2 young. You may have a DF Violet Blue judging by the very dark flights.

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Re: What mutation?

Post by Skyes_crew » Sat May 04, 2013 10:57 am

I was told it was a DF Violet, but I usually ask for a second opinion ;)
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