Blue or turquoise blu cinamon

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KJ1988
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Blue or turquoise blu cinamon

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Whether on the basis of these photographs can anyone assess whether it is blue or turquoise blue cinnamon?
Sorry for the pictures, but that only got :oops:
http://www.picshot.pl/public/view/297617
http://www.picshot.pl/public/view/297618
http://www.picshot.pl/public/view/297620
Lushen1600
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Re: Blue or turquoise blu cinamon

Post by Lushen1600 »

Hi, I would go with turquoise blue cinnamon
The second pic is very interesting, the bird seems to have a patch of red on its head, very nice

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Lushen
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Lushen1600
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Re: Blue or turquoise blu cinamon

Post by Lushen1600 »

Looking at the red patch on the head I would now say its more than just a blue turquoise cinnamon, but you will have to wait to hear what the others have to say

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myrka2004
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Re: Blue or turquoise blu cinamon

Post by myrka2004 »

KJ1988 wrote:Whether on the basis of these photographs can anyone assess whether it is blue or turquoise blue cinnamon?
Sorry for the pictures, but that only got :oops:
http://www.picshot.pl/public/view/297617
http://www.picshot.pl/public/view/297618
http://www.picshot.pl/public/view/297620
My thought is Cinnamon Turquoise Blue ;-) or Cinnamon Blue
sheyd
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Re: Blue or turquoise blu cinamon

Post by sheyd »

if I'd only seen the middle pic I would have thought Blue Pallid/ino but because you've posted others I am not sure of exactly what it is... :) I don't see Cinnamon, as the flights don't even look slightly tinged in brown- but that is not to say it isn't there (or it could just be the pics)! - there will always be light/dark examples of all mutations, and some will keep us guessing.

Am interested in hearing what the others think

I don't think this bird has the Turquoise mutation

Do you know what the parents were?
Lushen1600
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Re: Blue or turquoise blu cinamon

Post by Lushen1600 »

Hi Chocobo, I think that it is a blue cinnamon turquoise with something more due to the red patch on the head.
If you look closely at the second pic you will notice the greenish tinge on the wings and the fact that there is a red patch on the head instead of a white patch would also point to turquoise.
Normally turquoise is supposed to have a greenish head, but there is something that I believe has strip away the melanin and is showing the psittacine. Normally the psittacine colour in this area should be yellow/cream, but is showing as red here, waiting for the more experienced guys to comment on this.
Also if the look at the pale blue colouring and the brownish washed out flights, you will see that this points to cinnamon.

This is just my guess and I could be wrong also, waiting for others to comment

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Johan S
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Re: Blue or turquoise blu cinamon

Post by Johan S »

Pretty sure the red is blood, hey...
sahhbear
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Re: Blue or turquoise blu cinamon

Post by sahhbear »

I have absolutely no experience determining colour mutations but I just wanted to say you have a very beautiful bird! :)
McmillanBirds
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Re: Blue or turquoise blu cinamon

Post by McmillanBirds »

I actually agree with Johan. My first thought was that this bird was in a little bit of a fight and had blood on its head.

The green sheen may also be because the pics were taken with a flash on. On blue birds I have noticed this happens.
Lushen1600
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Re: Blue or turquoise blu cinamon

Post by Lushen1600 »

Hi, as I said I could be wrong, also initially thought it could be an injury and bloodstained, but not sure.

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McmillanBirds
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Re: Blue or turquoise blu cinamon

Post by McmillanBirds »

For all we know maybe there is something more to it. KJ1988 would you be able to contact the breeder and also get pics without a flash being used
sahhbear
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Re: Blue or turquoise blu cinamon

Post by sahhbear »

Just a thought.... lipstick?? I've kissed my bird's head (who is a similar colour) and left behind a pinky red colour before- whoops!! :lol:
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