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McmillanBirds
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please help with identification

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Hi everyone

A friend just sent me these pics of a bird asking what mutation it is. It looks almost like a grey green pallid(wine red eyes and pinkish feet) but the wings are looking very mottled to me. Could I please get some other peoples input

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Thanks for anyones help
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Carmen,

This thread might help, perhaps cinnamon is also involved?
some reference pics .
http://www.indianringneck.com/forum/vie ... f=1&t=8306

Pattern looks mottle... looking at the blue bird it does not look like a cinnamon pattern more pied...
Let's see what others are saying.

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The blue pied is not related. I thought so to at first but when I asked they said that it was just one of their other birds. Thanks for the link though. I have given the person the link to this page so they can follow the topic.
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Telling us the parents would be helpful, the bird is also young,
Cinnamon birds going through molt look extremely close resemblance to pieds
so my guess is that you're right + cinnamon
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I also asked about parents, but the person doesn't know. Its a 2012 bird. When I first guessed at the 1st picture sent I said it looked similar to my edged grey green cinn, then in a later pic I saw the yellow head so then I leant towards pallid but the mottled look on the wings had me stumped. It looks so much like pied. I do know that cinn has a mottled look when they are young, I experienced that with some of my babies from this season, but this little guy/girl had so much more of it.
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McmillanBirds wrote:more pictures received



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May be its bcos of the blurred snaps but I cant see any visible white iris for this young bird. Is it possible that it has a CH gene in it as well.



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Hi Sherjil, no the solid eyes are because it is a young bird. That will change as it gets older.
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McmillanBirds wrote:Hi Sherjil, no the solid eyes are because it is a young bird. That will change as it gets older.
Thanks Carmen :)
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McmillanBirds wrote:more pictures received

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In this photo here it looks like a turq blue lacewing, not in the other pics though.
is that turq. bird next to him a sibling?
Maybe his camera colors are not accurate.
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Re: please help with identification

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Hi, no, the bird is not related to any other birds in the pics. I think that pic was just a fluke with the lighting. I know how hard it is to accurately capture a birds true colour. I still haven't successfully managed to do it with one of my birds to date and I have had it for nearly a year. Sorry, I wish I knew the history of the bird too, it would make life easier.
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