1 cock and 2 hens, interesting situations....

[NelsonPL]

hi everyone

I've 1 cock irn olive and two hens: lutino and blue

amazing fact for me is that this one cock feeds both of them.. the blue was his pair and the lutino was single

then he fertilized

blue has got 3 eggs and lutino has got 5 eggs

now I have 2 chicks (they have 6 days) from blue and 3 chicks (1 day) from lutino

and my question is: what will be colours of chicks??

and the second question: is it polygamy normal behaviour for irn?

sorry for my english

[Molossus2]

If the cpck is olive then all the offspring will be dark green. The blue mating will produce all /blue offspring and the lutino mating will produce /lutino cocks.
The acceptance of two hens isn't uncommon among irns and alexandrines. The harmonious co existence among females is tricky and new introductions are best left for after breeding season.
it is also better to have a large aviary for this exercise.

[NelsonPL]

well ok..understand

so all chicks will be dark green and they will split for lutino and blues, am I right?


so olive is dominant yes?

lutino is recessive and blue also recessive?

[NelsonPL]

TRAGEDY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

when I opened nest box today I saw that is only one chick...

a few seconds later I saw a lutino hen (mother) who killed the another chick

why did she do it?

[ellieelectrons]

For this reason during breeding season you need to separate the two females. This is common practice. You should do this as soon as possible.

Ellie.

[NelsonPL]

lutino hen killed the third chick - I was terrified....
but in the morning I saw the fourth chick hatch out....

what should I do?

is the only reason separate from mother and handbreed the chick??

help me, please

[ellieelectrons]

Sorry I misread your previous message. I thought you said the other female killed the baby. I hope some breeders will answer for you, however what I have picked up from breeders on this forum is:
1. Sometimes parents will kill their babies because there is something wrong with the baby
2. Sometimes parents will kill babies in their first clutch because they don't know what they are doing. I presume this is usually caused by neglect but I'm not sure


I hope someone can help.

Ellie.

[NelsonPL]

ok, thanks a lot for your answer

that's right it's her first clutch and she hasn't got a cock => olive cock only feed his blue hen

but we will see, maybe lutino don't kill a chick and it will survive..

[mikeb]

are you sure it's one of the females and not the male ? are all 3 birds in the same cage and using the same nest box ? i have a pair of plumheads that the male eats the babies so i have to remove him before it's time for the eggs to hatch the female does a great job raising the young alone in your case if you think it's one of the females and they are all in the same cage i would remove the female that you think is the problem first and if they are using different nest boxes i would take the eggs from the box that female is using and put them in the other hens nest box and hope for the best . i have a buddy who has around 60 pair of ringnecks and he swaps out eggs all the time to let less expensive mutations foster parent more expensive mutations so the the higher cost ones double clutch ringnecks make great foster parents

[NelsonPL]

hi all,
news... 4 babies are dead

but now I know that the "killer" was the second female who has now got 2 chicks

I have 2 females but they have separete nestbox

now I separate to the other aviary the lutino female to not do a revenge...

regards

[NelsonPL]

If the cpck is olive then all the offspring will be dark green. The blue mating will produce all /blue offspring and the lutino mating will produce /lutino cocks.
The acceptance of two hens isn't uncommon among irns and alexandrines. The harmonious co existence among females is tricky and new introductions are best left for after breeding season.
it is also better to have a large aviary for this exercise.

now I see, that chicks will be blue

what does it mean? that I haven't got olive cock?

can anybody write me why is it these colour?

[mikeb]

it's more than likely a grey-green bird which looks darker green(olive) than a normal green bird,with grey tail & flight feathers also there is a violet-green which will will look like a grey-green but the tail & flight feathers will be violet blue colored then there is a single factor dark green which looks olive colored with cobalt blue tail & flight feathers and the true olive color bird is a double factor dark green bird and it has mauve tail & flight feathers . they all pretty much look the same except for the few minor differences and most people who have a grey-green bird think they have an olive bird but don't ! if you have a bird with the dark factor and breed it with a blue bird you can get cobalt colored babies with a grey-green bird or a violet-green bird bred to a blue bird you will not ! go to home.wanadoo.nl/psittaculaworld/mutations/p-krameri.htm and this will help you

[NelsonPL]

well ok, thanks
I know this site, it's genious!

I will take some photos and we will see what I have

regards from Poland