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Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by pinkdevil » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:55 am

Hi all,
Wondering if someone could help identify my IRN chick colours.
The male is supposed to be a blue/pallid, hen a normal lutino. They had 3 chicks, 2 with red eyes so I thought were pallidino boys while the 3rd is yet to reveal itself (probable green).
I have not seen a pallid or pallidino, only photos, and colours seem to vary greatly. Not sure if photo capture or difference in bird itself.


Here is a pic taken when chicks were only a few days old....
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Taken this afternoon.....
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Notice how one is considerably 'darker' or 'greener' looking than the other? Would that be a pallid hen and not a pallidino as I first thought? Or just the colour variation in a pallidino?

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by Molossus2 » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:43 pm

It is possible that you have a pallid ino or dark phase lacewing and a yellow head cinnamon or light phase lacewing. When the chicks are in full feather it's easier to identify the mutation.

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by pinkdevil » Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:34 pm

Thanks for replying, Molossus2.
I will take a few more photos in the coming days when the feathers start to come out more.
I am pretty excited as this is the first time I have had anything other than green, grey, blue and lutino. :lol:

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by pinkdevil » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:31 pm

Babies are now aprox 3 weeks old and getting very cheeky. :D

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by Molossus2 » Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:50 am

There is one more twist in this .... That is.... The ino parents can mask grey green and if that is true in your case you could have the yellow baby coloring into a grey green pallid ino.
The joy of color breeding. :mrgreen:

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by dog_glenn123 » Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:25 pm

And then if the hen is split blue?????? :mrgreen:

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by mikeb » Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:41 pm

if they are pallid wouldn't the eyes be red ?

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by pinkdevil » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:26 pm

mikeb wrote:if they are pallid wouldn't the eyes be red ?
Their eyes were red.....

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by pinkdevil » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:32 pm

The lutino hen parents are meant to be straight lutino with no splits according to the breeder. The DNA certificate I got with the male says blue/pallid, if that helps any.

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by dog_glenn123 » Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:29 pm

pinkdevil wrote:The lutino hen parents are meant to be straight lutino with no splits according to the breeder. The DNA certificate I got with the male says blue/pallid, if that helps any.

Yep but if just one of her parents where split blue there is still a 50% chance she is split blue.

Just something to think about.

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by pinkdevil » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:02 am

Chicks are revealing more and more everyday. :D

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by Rueae » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:17 pm

I'm loving the yellowy-green baby. :P
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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by madas » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:32 am

pinkdevil wrote:The lutino hen parents are meant to be straight lutino with no splits according to the breeder. The DNA certificate I got with the male says blue/pallid, if that helps any.
if it's true then you have one pallidino green male (the one which is nearly yellow), one pallid green female and one green /blue bird with unknown sex. if this bird is a male he is split for ino too.

One remark: a pallid paired to a lutino will cause the pallid offspring to get lighter and lighter then the father from genration to generation. So it's best to pair a pallid back to a pallid. And that why your pallidino looks nearly like a lutino. if he gets fully feathered up then he should have only some light green areas on the flights and a light green body.

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by pinkdevil » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:02 pm

Thanks Madas. I read about the change in colour when paired a pallid with a lutino.
I originally thought I had 2 pallidinos as both chicks hatched with 'pink' eyes and I read pallid hens have 'plum' coloured eyes so I assumed the chicks were both boys. Then as the pins were coming through it looked like one was a dark chick but as the feathers have burst open, I have seen was a pallid hen.
Pin colouring can be so deceiving to what the actual feather colour is going to be.
I am a bit partial to the hens' colour as I have not seen one before only in photos, very pretty. :D

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by pinkdevil » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:00 am

Thought I had better show updated pics of the bubs....they sure have grown. :)

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The male is sold when fully weaned but I am tossing up whether the hen is a keeper or not....sigh. :roll:

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by pinkdevil » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:38 am

Here is the pallid hen and has the sweetest nature....needless to say she is a keeper....sigh... :D

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by Molossus2 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:24 am

Stunning.

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Re: Are both chicks pallidino?

Post by pinkdevil » Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:17 pm

Thanks. :D

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