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What can you tell from the picture?

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blueindianringneck
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What can you tell from the picture?

Post by blueindianringneck » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:05 pm

What can you tell me about my birds? What can you tell me about "Factors" and "clear tail" and ...well... What can you tell me in general about their mutations and possible offspring colors? Thank you. :?

Green one named "Clover." Tail looks blue to me? Not sure on age.
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Violet one named "Lavender" Not sure on age,

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Yellow one named "Daffodil." Light color tail? The mom & Dad and nest mates were all green. Dad was a grey green. It is 5 months old.

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White one named "CoCo" Was told it has violet in it's back ground? But wasn't told how. Is there such thing as a white mutation or is this an albino? Getting conflicting info on line. Don't know age. But LOVES the camera. Coco is a ham lol

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Blue one named "Sky." Male.

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Grey one Named "Luna" The purple spot on her back is an accident involving water and the food dye off a wooden toy lol. She is a female.

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rod038
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Re: What can you tell from the picture?

Post by rod038 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:40 pm

Cleartail is a mutation and to breed them you need to have birds that have the Cleartail mutation. Some Dominant mutations have what they call factors.

Grey and Violet birds amoungst others can be single or double factored. With a Grey there is no way of knowing unless you breed it and see what colour the young are over a few nests. If for instance you have a Grey male and breed it with a Blue female and all the young are Grey over a few nests then you would say that the Grey Male is Double factor. It will pass on the Grey to all its young and if it was single factor it would pass it on to half its young. Double factor Violets are darker than single factor, so you can tell by their colour.

The white one is an Albino and it is possible to have Violet in it. Albino can mask Violet so you have a white bird but it may be able to breed violets. Grey can aslo mask Violet. The only way to tell would be to breed it and see what colour chicks you get. The yellow one is a Lutino which is the green series equivilent of the Albino. Not generally a good idea to breed Violet with Albino, Lutino or Grey.

The Violet bird you have would best be bred with the blue.

Depending on the sex of the birds as only one male has a ring I would pair. Green to Yellow. Violet to Blue. The rest could all be hens.

blueindianringneck
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Re: What can you tell from the picture?

Post by blueindianringneck » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:48 pm

rod038 wrote:Cleartail is a mutation and to breed them you need to have birds that have the Cleartail mutation. Some Dominant mutations have what they call factors.

Grey and Violet birds amoungst others can be single or double factored. With a Grey there is no way of knowing unless you breed it and see what colour the young are over a few nests. If for instance you have a Grey male and breed it with a Blue female and all the young are Grey over a few nests then you would say that the Grey Male is Double factor. It will pass on the Grey to all its young and if it was single factor it would pass it on to half its young. Double factor Violets are darker than single factor, so you can tell by their colour.

The white one is an Albino and it is possible to have Violet in it. Albino can mask Violet so you have a white bird but it may be able to breed violets. Grey can aslo mask Violet. The only way to tell would be to breed it and see what colour chicks you get. The yellow one is a Lutino which is the green series equivilent of the Albino. Not generally a good idea to breed Violet with Albino, Lutino or Grey.

The Violet bird you have would best be bred with the blue.

Depending on the sex of the birds as only one male has a ring I would pair. Green to Yellow. Violet to Blue. The rest could all be hens.
What about my violet? Does it appear double? Or single? Thank you for the info! The grey and the blue I bought as a 'Breeding Pair' and are NOT tame at all! But are paired up.

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Re: What can you tell from the picture?

Post by rod038 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:32 pm

It appears single factor. I would split up that Blue and Grey pair as you have no other bird there suitable for pairing to your Violet apart from the Blue male. If The Blue and Grey pair are old enough to breed and the Violet isnt then I would pair them up for a season and change them over next season. How old is the Albino?

Also looks like the Grey bird has some sort of red stain or different colouration on the back of its neck.

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Re: What can you tell from the picture?

Post by blueindianringneck » Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:46 pm

rod038 wrote:It appears single factor. I would split up that Blue and Grey pair as you have no other bird there suitable for pairing to your Violet apart from the Blue male. If The Blue and Grey pair are old enough to breed and the Violet isnt then I would pair them up for a season and change them over next season. How old is the Albino?

Also looks like the Grey bird has some sort of red stain or different colouration on the back of its neck.
I see what you mean. There are birds in pictures that look REALLY purple. ours appears only light purple. So I see what single factor you are talking about.

I don't know how old the violet is. Is there any chance the grey and blue will produce violet babies?

The only for sure male I have is the blue one. The green has a ring, but it is faint. Previous owner said she thought it was going to be a male because the ring was getting darker. None of them have been DNA tested.

Don't know how old on the Albino. Saw pictures on line of white male birds with the ring. Is that still an albino? Will coco get a ring if she turns out to be a he?

Yea, they wanted a bath with a spray bottle... then Luna went and played with her colored wooden chew toy. The coloration came off of it. lol


Thank you so very much for the info!

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Re: What can you tell from the picture?

Post by blueindianringneck » Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:48 pm

rod038 wrote:It appears single factor. I would split up that Blue and Grey pair as you have no other bird there suitable for pairing to your Violet apart from the Blue male. If The Blue and Grey pair are old enough to breed and the Violet isnt then I would pair them up for a season and change them over next season. How old is the Albino?

Also looks like the Grey bird has some sort of red stain or different colouration on the back of its neck.

The green bird had a blue and a yellow tail. Is that a typical green trait?

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Re: What can you tell from the picture?

Post by rod038 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:14 pm

Yes thats normal.

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Re: What can you tell from the picture?

Post by blueindianringneck » Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:11 am

rod038 wrote:Yes thats normal.

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Gottcha. Thank you! Beautiful bird. :)

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