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Azure
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lno and lutino

Post by Azure » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:25 pm

what it lno? is it lutino or something? and its a gene thats only on the male right?

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Re: lno and lutino

Post by dog_glenn123 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:21 pm

Hi Azure,

Ino is a gene that can be both in male and females, only males can be split to it though.
Split means the bird has the gene but you dont visually see it.

Now ino in a green bird is a lutino and
ino in a blue bird makes it albino.

Hope it helps.

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Re: lno and lutino

Post by Azure » Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:21 am

oh gosh... so its just a gene called ino or LNO? that can cause the lutino or green appearance? :shock:
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Re: lno and lutino

Post by dog_glenn123 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:24 am

Not sure what you mean by LNO!

But yes its called ino which causes a lack of or no melinen.

If a green bird has the ino gene it will be lutino (and has a lack of melinen and hence the male gets a ring)

If a blue bird has the ino gene its called albino and looks white (and thats no melinen andthe males dont get a ring)


Green IRN birds are called wild gene, and anything other then that is a mutation gene.

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Re: lno and lutino

Post by Azure » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:58 pm

ah kk @.@ got it
thanks thanks glen
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Re: lno and lutino

Post by Azure » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:23 am

Wait, so there is no “lutino” gene? Its just ino being expressed in a green bird?
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Re: lno and lutino

Post by dog_glenn123 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:40 am

Correct :mrgreen:

Green ino = lutino we just call it lutino.
same as there is no albino gene its blue ino.

A little more info for you.

If you have a greyblueino the bird will be white. ( and not grey)
If you have a violetblueino you will have white. (and not violet)

Its called masking and covers the main colour,

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Re: lno and lutino

Post by Sherjil » Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:35 am

Hi Glenn

Can you please share which color mutations are not masked by ino ?
Also the cases in which ino can partially mask and not completely ?

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Re: lno and lutino

Post by Recio » Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:17 pm

Hi,

Lutino or ino mutation completely inhibits the synthesis of melanin. It means that mutations acting on melanin synthesis, transport or distribution in the feathers would be masked (excepting cinnamon which is an special case). Structural mutations (dark, violet and grey) will also be masked since they need the presence of melanin to become apparent.

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Re: lno and lutino

Post by dog_glenn123 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:50 pm

Hi Recio can you try and explain it without the technical terms for everyone.

Eg. Turquiose will not be masked by ino, pallid will not be masked by ino.

Blue becomes white with the ino gene and green becomes yellow.

Then if the bird is grey, violet or dark factor then the bird will appear white.

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Re: lno and lutino

Post by Sherjil » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:28 am

Thanks for the comments recio and glenn

Please mention in detail as glenn mentioned and also please please mention if any color mutation is partially effected

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Re: lno and lutino

Post by Sherjil » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:29 am

Thanks for the comments recio and glenn

Please mention in detail as glenn requested and also please please mention if any color mutation is partially effected

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Re: lno and lutino

Post by Sherjil » Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:34 pm

Hi can somebdy please share some knowledge abt those color mutations that are not or partially effected (i.e. masked) by ino gene
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Re: lno and lutino

Post by dog_glenn123 » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:31 pm

Yep can do.

Ino will mask as follows grey, violet.
if you have a bird that has they grey and violet gene in the blue series it will look grey and no visual violet will be seen.

Ino will make a green bird yellow (lutino)
Ino will make a blue bird white (albino)

The effect changes when you add the ino gene to other combinations of mutation.
Eg. Pallid, turquiose, cinnimon(more technical to explain).

Thanks Glenn
Thats just a basic overview.

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