Red or Black Ringneck

[Lushen1600]

Hi just wanted to know if anyone successfully used the red and the black from a male's ring to breed a full red or full black ringneck. If so does anyone have pics of these. If not what would these colour birds be worth if someone can breed these mutations

[dog_glenn123]

No one has bread a full red or black IRN at this stage but!!!

There are black headed IRN's and there are pied IRN's with red in them.

Now to what there worth!?

It will vary on where the mutation is dominant or recessive or sex linked.

But it wouldnt be out of the question to ask for $20000+.

But it hasnt been done yet and it would take at least 3-4 breeding cycles to establish the mutation.

I have seen a pink one but i recon that was dyed some how and was never paired to anything to prove it was a mutation.

Ta Glenn

P.S. Hopefully Madas and Recio put there ten cents worth in on this.

[Lushen1600]

Thanks Glenn, do you know where I can view pics of the IRN with a black head and the IRN pied with red?

[dog_glenn123]

Hi there,

If you go to mutation/genetics section and go to the second page of posts the 6th one down says
blackheaded ringneck, if you click on that you will see the pictures.

The pied with red i will goggle a few pages to try and find it again.

Ta Glenn

[dog_glenn123]

Here are the links with the red on the Pied ringneck.

http://www.mcw-indianringnecks.com.au/g ... thred].htm

http://www.mcw-indianringnecks.com.au/G ... aries.html

Thanks Glenn

[prodigy]

Hi All,

I have a few questions:

1) How would i enter the Adm Pied - with red, bird into the Genetic Calculator ?

2) Other than the obvious what other combinations would be suggested to bring the red out even more ?

thanks,

Peter

[prodigy]

OK so i will start the debate with myself:

so why would a Violet Opaline be a better option vs a Grey Cinnamon Pied ?????

[prodigy]

or a Turquoise Grey Opaline ?

[Molossus2]

You need to debate on the following recessive or dominant or sex linked. Then debate cocks or hens...eg opaline cocks will produce visuals at first mating whilst hens won't.what do you aspire to breed as the ultimate irn. Mine is the dbl factor violet mauve Dom pied in dbl factor.

[prodigy]

The ADM Pied - red that I have hatched is a visual dominant male, with large amounts of red under the wings, socks, and on the chest and in the tail.

The objective is to get as much red out in the offspring as possible.

Thought?

[Molossus2]

Then you must pair this cock to an opaline hen. Of you can get an opaline/pied hen better still. Bear in mind that red will only show on yellow and the various green mutations.
You will need to breed an opaline pied with red markings. The opaline factor will magnify the red and You could be on your way to breeding the first red irn.
Hope this helps.

[prodigy]

Thanks that helps, what would be the best, a Turquoise Gray Opaline/Pied or a Violet Green Opaline/Pied or do you have a better combination as a best bet?

thanks

Peter

[Molossus2]

I recommend a violet green hen. Best to steer away from blue factor. Since you will pair the visual Dom pied to a sex linked opaline hen . You will need to pair brother to sister offspring as you will need to ultimately breed this red factor into opalines to enhance this color. If you really do have Dom pied or rec pied with strong red marking and this gene inherits then you are on you way to producing an all red irn in opaline.