Grey lacewing from non lacewing parents?

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alyce
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Grey lacewing from non lacewing parents?

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Hi all

I have a skyblue cock bird that I bred to a silver hen. They bred one year and produced 4 eggs all which hatched. hatchlings were 3 skyblue and what seems to be a grey lacewing. Ive been looking around and found a photo in a book which looks like the male version of whatever sex my bird is.
I just want to know if it is possible for me to get a grey lacewing from this combination, or do i just have a funny coloured bird?

Alyce
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Re: Grey lacewing from non lacewing parents?

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Are you able to put some pics on here so we can have a look?
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Re: Grey lacewing from non lacewing parents?

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If the baby is a grey lacewing it must also be cinnimon.

Attached are the results.

1.0 blue cinnamon /pallid
x 0.1 grey(sf) blue cinnamon
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blue cinnamon /pallid
25.0% 1.0 blue cinnamon /pallid
25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blue cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 blue cinnamon
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) blue cinnamon
25.0% 0.1 blue cinnamon
25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) blue pallid cinnamon
25.0% 0.1 blue pallid cinnamon
Females cant be split lacewing (pallid), so if it is a lacewing then the the baby is female.

Thanks Glenn
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Re: Grey lacewing from non lacewing parents?

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Thanks Glenn that was awesome!! I gather you used gencalc to get that, i couldnt fingure out how to get a silver (grey cinnamon sorry) hen to not have green in the calculation. I kept coming up with greygreen babies and that didn't happen!


Julie: i can't upload any photos cos i suck tech wise lol, but i can describe it a bit better! The bird has a white head, no visible neck ring, a pale grey body, and the very outer feathers on its wings are white, but they are kinda dappled looking when the wings are spread to fly, but that could just be the feathers being a bit ruffled i guess! The feet arent quite as dark as usual grey birds.

Thankyou so much for your help! I need to know what i should call it cos im trying to figure out my pairs!
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Re: Grey lacewing from non lacewing parents?

Post by dog_glenn123 »

To get grey you need to put grey then blue on the gen calc.
Other wise it would diplay as green-grey.


To upload photos you need to use a photo bucket.
the share it to the page. If you search for how to attach a photo in the forum plenty of people have posted responces.

Thanks Glenn
alyce
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Re: Grey lacewing from non lacewing parents?

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I didnt think of clicking the blue one...duh!

Ta
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Re: Grey lacewing from non lacewing parents?

Post by dog_glenn123 »

Dont worry neither did i until somebody explained it same as :oops:
Albino is blue ino
Lutino is ino.
The the same thing happens with violet.

Aand regards to the othe question for Lutino SL or NSL hope fully Recio will answer cause i dont under stand it at all.
I use Gencalc for colours.
alyce
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Re: Grey lacewing from non lacewing parents?

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Okay, so if i were to breed my grey (sf) blue pallid cinnamon hen (silver lacewing) to a known Blue/ino cock bird: I would visually get:

1.0 blue /ino
x 0.1 grey(sf) blue pallid cinnamon
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 grey(df) blue pallid
25.0% 1.0 blue pallid
25.0% 1.0 grey(df) blue
25.0% 1.0 blue
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 grey(df) blue
25.0% 0.1 blue
25.0% 0.1 grey(df) blue ino
25.0% 0.1 blue ino


Does that mean the last hen is albino?
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Re: Grey lacewing from non lacewing parents?

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Yep as long as by Blue/ino you mean a viual Blue bird split to ino and not an Albino
Then thats correct, if i am wrong then somebody will respond.

And yes the last hen is albino
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Re: Grey lacewing from non lacewing parents?

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and another... im full of questions atm!!


1.0 ino Lutino
x 0.1 grey(sf) blue pallid cinnamon Silver lacewing
% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 grey(df) green pallid golden khaki coloured birds with yellow head
50.0% 1.0 green pallid green bird, yellow head
% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 grey(df) ino
50.0% 0.1 ino lutino


These are all visual colours ( no splits shown). So what is a grey (df) ino?
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Re: Grey lacewing from non lacewing parents?

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Im not sure i cant find any photos on it maybe somebody else could help.
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Re: Grey lacewing from non lacewing parents?

Post by madas »

If i put your input into gencalc i got this:

1.0 ino x 0.1 grey(sf) blue pallid cinnamon
% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 grey(sf) green pallidIno /blue cinnamon
50.0% 1.0 green pallidIno /blue cinnamon
% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 grey(sf) ino /blue
50.0% 0.1 ino /blue

So where did you get these results from?. :)
Btw: a grey ino is a lutino who is masking the grey factor.
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