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New Bird Owner General Advice

Post by Kate.24 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:23 am

Hi all,

Hope I'm doing this right as I'm new to this sort of stuff.

Just about to get a beautiful young IRN which I'm going to have to be looking after for not sure how long possibly years he may even become my pet eventually.

But I'm very much an animal person as I work in a zoo but to tell you the truth my bird knowledge is a bit lacking and my experience has only really been with predator birds and I'm really just after as much advice as possible.

I'm pretty good with diet, enrichment, and stuff like socialising and keeping him tame but I would really appreciate some more information on things such as any regular medications that should be used In-between yearly vet visits and if anything like supplements should be used and just if any food brands are better than others and just any must know things about ownership and health.

So far I have a massive massive cage ready and in the process of buying and making plenty of tough toys but absolutely anything at all that may help me insure I have a happy healthy bird would be really appreciated :)

Thanks all :) love the site so far! Great stuff.

Cheers, Kate x

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Post by AJPeter » Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:44 am

Hallo Kate and welcome,

Keep reading the posts and they will be all the help you need.

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Post by InTheAir » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:59 pm

Hi and welcome to the forum,

The avian vets I've talked to recommend a diet of high quality pellets, vegetables (especially low energy/sugar ones) and small amounts of fruit and seed. I use roudybush and harrisons pellets and my guys seem pretty healthy. I also save all their seed/ nut and fruit rations for training or foraging. They love their foraging!
They really like some soft, chewable toys as well, like yucca and cane toys. Lots of fresh browse goes down well. I got them some corkbark perches recently and it was quite a party (especially for the vacuum cleaner!).
They are really easy to train using positive reinforcement.
They shouldn't need any medication or supplements on a good diet.

Good luck with your new buddy!

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Post by Kate.24 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:33 pm

Thank you for that information thats a huge help and really reassures me.

Good to know that with a healthy balanced diet they shouldn't need any supplements.

What are people's views here on working and mite/lice treatment?
(And if bathing regularly is needed or just when they get grubby from something provided for fun)

I thought they should only be used when necessary but I'm getting mixed messages off other sites so thought I would check here.

And lastly just is there any food, seed, brow that they absolutely shouldn't have?

Other than that I'm getting very excited to get this little guy!

They sure seem like awesome pets and everyone's posts are getting me pretty excited :)

Thanks all! Appreciate any any information or advice at all :)

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Post by Wessel Gordon » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:01 am

Hi Kate

Welcome to the forum.

The two huge "no no's" regarding food that comes to mind immediately is avocado's and chocolates. From what I've heard avocado's more or less dissolve their insides so it's not a pretty death: there is no way I can never overstate how toxic avocado is to birds. I'm not sure what chocolates do to their bodies but it's also very high up on the "do not EVER give him/her that".

Here is a link on the site to a comprehensive list of what you can and cannot feed your bird, including poisonous plants.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8078

As for bathing I found that my flock of 6 IRN's all have individual preferences. I just provide them a shallow dish with some water on the bottom of the cage/aviary and let them decide how much and when they want to take a bath. The big, flat pots that you put under pot-plants to catch excess water works perfect for this purpose.

Regards,

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Post by Kate.24 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:06 am

Thanks so much everyone! Really appreciate all the help.

Think I'm just over obsessing about it all :P

Looked after many animals before but never an IRN and just hearing everything you all have to say just makes me re-assured I'm doing everything right :)

Thanks all!

If anyone has any worming info that would be appreciated also.

Thanks! :)

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Post by Wessel Gordon » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:28 am

Kate,

I don't think you're over-obsessing.

From your zoo-experience I'm sure you know it's better to ask if you don't know something or if you need advice. Regretting not asking is a very nasty feeling and regret has the nasty little habit of always raising it's ugly head when it's too late to change something.

So in my opinion: it's better to be over-cautious than over-confident.

Wessel

PS: I adopted my first-ever Congo African Grey on Saturday and right now I'm going through more or less what you're going through of "am I doing this right?", "What do I do if that happens?". The poor thing has a disabled leg so I am extra-cautious about him. Luckily it seems he has a very determined personality so he should be fine.

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Post by InTheAir » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:10 am

I'm not sure about worming.
We have only dewormed 2 when we got them (avian vet did it). They live inside and are not exposed to much. I don't think the vet dewormed at the last appointment. They did a fecal smear, so if there was anything to worry about I trust they would have told us. We have never treated for mites, they have never had them.

Most parrots seem to love baths or showers. It helps keep their feathers beautiful.

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Post by Kate.24 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:44 am

That's great. I didn't think they would need it but better safe than sorry.

Think I'm just about set now :)

Unless anyone else has any general of good to know tips.

Thanks all :) appreciate all your help!

Kate

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Post by InTheAir » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:53 pm

Your welcome. It's worth asking your avian vet about worming and everything. Avian vets are awesome.

My -not so- pro tips are: get a huge cage, get them foraging heaps, find a good avian vet, always use positive reinforcement, leave them fully flighted, have lots of play stands outside of the cage, brush up on your applied behavioural analysis, never try to do anything with a parrot when you are in a hurry, read their body language.
If your bird is going to live indoors get a good dustbuster, get a top of the range vacuum cleaner, get a boyfriend who likes doing house work, put a wall protector between the cage and the wall because all their favourite foods are guaranteed to be the ones that stick like glue to the wall when flung there...
That should get you started... Or make you want a Hermit Crab instead.... :wink:

Have fun with your housework... opps... did I say that... I meant new bird :mrgreen:

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Post by Kate.24 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:08 pm

Haha thank you that's good to know... I think :P

My whole career is pretty much cleaning up after animals so I thought why not do it at home also :P

And it's must be a sign because we just got a dyson vacuum :P

Just ordered a bunch of strong puzzle and foraging toys that can be alternated and bought and made toys that can just be destroyed :P

Let the mess and fun begin :) think I'm ready lol

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Post by InTheAir » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:32 am

Kate.24 wrote:Haha thank you that's good to know... I think :P

My whole career is pretty much cleaning up after animals so I thought why not do it at home also :P

And it's must be a sign because we just got a dyson vacuum :P

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It sounds like serendipity! :mrgreen:
my boyfriend swears by this filtering attachment thing he bought recently, it diverts larger pieces to a plastic tube so you can pull out any of their favourite toys that you accidentally sucked up. :lol:

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Post by sanjays mummi » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:53 am

Sanjay is an indoor, only child, so I don't bother with worming.The only supplement he gets is "Feather Up" when he moults, he will Not bath, he much prefers a tepid misting, and I add a few drops of glycerin and natural rosewater for skin condition. There is quite a list of toxic foods, raw potato, garlic, raw onion, avocado and chocolate, apple and pear seeds, and there is some doubt about tomato, these are just a few, but you can find a more comprehensive list. My sweetie will not eat pelletised food, he prefers seed or parrot mix, but his diet is 90% fresh veg, fruit,and the occasional sliver of chicken or fish, he also loves hard boiled egg, and a bunch of coriander or dill, a piece of fresh ginger or a cinnamon stick. Sanjay is quite omnivorous, so I am very careful. He has monkey nuts, millet and walnuts, he loves seedy bars, or a slice of organic wholemeal seeded bread, but these are not offered frequently. If it was up to him, he would gorge on Sunflower seeds, but they are something you cannot offer in huge amounts or too often. I hope this helps.

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Post by Kate.24 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:08 am

Thank you! That is a big help.

My boy is going to be mainly on fruit/veg diet and as you mentioned seeds and stuff occasionally for treats and foraging toys and such but I'm having a hard time picking a pellet brand just for occasional and just in reserve to mix things up. I'm not a huge fan of vetafarm to be truthful working in a zoo and when you actually go into ingredients it's not as good for an asiatic species not bad or anything just defiantly better options I think.

I'm trying to decided between

- Wombaroo Parrot Pellets (Passwell Parrot Pellets
- Roudy Bush

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Post by InTheAir » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:24 am

Roudybush!
70 percent veggies 30 fruit.
What area are you in?

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Post by Kate.24 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:37 am

I'm in the Redlands. And that's what iv been looking for.

And so far I can't find it anywhere!
And iv started looking online for it and there are a million types no idea which one to get exactly of the Roudy bush.

Any suggestions anyone?

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Post by sanjays mummi » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:04 am

Can you get sample packs? Because you could spend a fortune on pellets, only to have your bird reject them. Just a thought...

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Post by InTheAir » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:10 pm

We use daily maintenance in crumble or mini size. I think crumbles are good for starting out.
I don't know where Redlands is, but if in Australia, Petstock seem to be the only chainstore that stocks roudybush. Most bird vets seem to, if there is vet near you. I've seen a few vets this week, and did notice roudybush stocked...

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Post by Kate.24 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:38 pm

So far haven't been able to find anyone that will do samples.

But yes it's in Aus in Queensland.

And I'll have to give pet stock another try maybe I wasn't looking hard enough :P

All iv been able to find is vetafarm, Wombaroo and golden something or rather and something called Joy.

But I'll keep on the hunt :)

Thanks all!

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Post by InTheAir » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:21 pm

I'm in the sunshine coast.
I haven't found samples either, but birds seem to get a taste for roudybush quite quickly. Mine like Harrisions too, but it's really hard to find. They like the natural coloured vetafarm, but our vet recommends roudybush. My girl hates coloured pellets! The boy thinks they are candy and really likes them

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Post by Kate.24 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:12 pm

where about on the sunshine cost do you get your roudy bush?

Iv got to head to Maroochydore on Saturday and I was thinking about having a look in some pet shops when I'm there because iv been to Pet Stock, Pet Barn, City Farmers and 3 Local little pet shops and nothing.

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Post by InTheAir » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:56 pm

Petstock in maroochydore and kawana usually both stock it, at least I bought some there a few weeks ago. I'll be so disappointed if they have stopped.
I think brisbane bird vet and brighton vet also sell it. Gatton university vet hospital definitely does, but I'm not sure it's worth the drive!

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Post by Kate.24 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:12 pm

Thanks for that. I'll give them a try when I'm down that way.

And if I have no luck guess I'll have to find an online supplier that's not a rip off

Thanks for all your help :)

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Post by Kate.24 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:55 am

What does everyone think and do with there birds in regards to wing clipping.

I personally don't know how I feel about it as a bird is meant to fly but on the safety side of not loseing it and all that.

I just really don't know how I feel about it and what's best. I know my uncle does it but some of my friends don't so I get very mixed responses on it.

I'll soon just have the one boy. Hand tame and he will be out of his cage a lot and I live in a very open set house with windows everywhere as we are 2 stories with no aircon so breeze is the only way we don't die in our house and that worries me a little but I still don't know how I feel about it...

Would just be nice to have some unbiased opinions and what others personally do.

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Post by InTheAir » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:32 am

I'm completely biased, if parrots werent meant to fly they wouldn't have wings! They would be rats, not parrots.
For their healt, physically, emotionally and mentally, flying is great. Do you want me to back that statement up with links by intelligent people?
People in the house must be ensure that the doors and unscreened windows are shut when bird is loose and you must teach birdy that you can't fly through glass to keep flighted birds. Pretty simple stuff.
Taking the bird to every window and encouraging him to tap his beak on them so he knows it's there works well with tame birds. With our second bird who wasnt tame when we got her, we put sheer curtains on windows and incrementally increased the gap as she started exploring behind the curtain.
We have many windows in our house and none are covered now, one never has been because it's high. She has never hit a window. Both our birds recognise window glass when we take them to other houses/buildings too. Even in a panic flight they know not to fly through windows (our boy learnt the hard way on the high window when he was little though).

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Post by Kate.24 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:42 am

Thank you! That makes me feel much better. I thought the same way we have legs so we are meant to walk birds have wings so they are meant to fly. Especially such intelligent birds as parrots. Seems cruel to deny them such a basic instinct

That's was my main concern, him flying into the glass and hurting himself I didn't even think to introduce him and try steps like that so thank you that makes me feel far better about it all.

My uncle is old school and he clips his cockatoos wings because he has escaped a lot but it's just never sat right with me. I know a lot of people who do it and they are trying to peruse me but I just don want too.

Nothing against people who choose to though I totally understand some circumstances it may be necessary just glad that to hear from someone else who feels the same way as me. Talking to family and friends just didn't help :P

Thanks yet again :) appreciate all the help!

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Post by sanjays mummi » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:07 am

If ear cropping and tail docking are banned here in the UK, and in Scandinavia, why should it still be ok to clip birds wings?. I have bamboo blinds and voile panels, yet Sanjay has never bothered to investigate either he has landed on the blinds for a split second when he has been having a good fly around, tho'

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Post by Melika » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:10 pm

sanjays mummi wrote:If ear cropping and tail docking are banned here in the UK, and in Scandinavia, why should it still be ok to clip birds wings?. I have bamboo blinds and voile panels, yet Sanjay has never bothered to investigate either he has landed on the blinds for a split second when he has been having a good fly around, tho'
Ear cropping and tail docking are cutting off live parts. Clipping wings is like cutting hair or nails- it's dead. It's rather a large difference.

With dogs, I'm not actually a fan of tail docking bans. Most of the breeds that get their tails docked have bloody wounds on their tails constantly if un-docked. In the shelter system, they're called "happy tails". They wag their strong tails so fiercely it hits the walls and leaves blood. In most cases, I view tail docking similarly to removing the dewclaw- it's more for safety of the animal and prevents wounds.

In many cases too, wing clipping is for the safety of the animal. Like using a cage/dog run/kennel for whatever animal, using a leash for your dog, keeping your cat indoors, etc.. It really isn't any different.

Hane IS flighted right now, but that's because we are able to keep him safe, within reason. He has been clipped occasionally throughout his life. His personality doesn't change (though when he was young, clipping made him less aggressive). He simply requires more supervision when he's flighted. I'd also like to take the time and really hone the recall command, just in case. We have so many birds of prey around here I would prefer to get him back inside pronto if he ever decided to fly off through an open door.
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Post by sanjays mummi » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:45 pm

We will have to agree to disagree, I have worked as a Kennel manageress, bred//exhibited dogs for over thirty years, and I am a kennel club judge. Only in certain breeds are dew claws removed, and it is mostly mongrels and crossbreeds who have anterior dew claws, here in the UK, docking was supposed to have been carried out by a qualified surgeon, unfortunately "backyard" breeders wouldn't pay the fees, and horrendous butchery became prevalent. With regards to wing clipping, I would prefer Sanjay to be able to escape from danger, and there is nothing more splendid than seeing him soar around my high ceiling, We invested in his huge cage to enable him the freedom of flight. As I have said in previous posts, If Sanjay wants to stay independent and "tame" in his own time, that's fine by me, we have pigeons and starlings in the town centre who will perch happily on people, and accept food from human hands, if a feral bird can eventually tame in it's own time, so can my semi feral bird.

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Post by AJPeter » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:53 pm

l agree with Sanjay's mummi about wing clipping when l first got Billie she had an enormous cage with little doors all over the place, one day last summer l put Billie into the cage and opened a window, and then went out when l got back Billie had found a way out and was sitting on top the cage enjoyijng the breeze from the open window!

Unless she is startled she never goes near the net (Voile) curtains, and l can go out all morning with the cage wide open and know she will not get up to any mischief. There was a time recently when she was looking for a nest site and then l kept her in but that has passed now.

If one takes sensible precautions to stop escapes l see no need for wing wlipping.

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Post by InTheAir » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:21 am

It's interesting to compare docking a tail or ears as a comparison. I'm not sure I agree with that, it doesn't restrict their freedom of movement. I think wing clipping is worse as it disables the bird and restricts it's freedom to express normal parrot behaviour. There have been some links found between clipping wings and feather distructive behavior, as well as obesity.
I don't agree with cropping or docking either.

Flighted parrots are great for teaching you to be a really calm, consistent trainer. Also you can do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQNeWRIi84I
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Post by sanjays mummi » Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:55 am

I made the comparison because in clipping and docking/cropping, these are done for human convenience, although those with working gundogs might still be pro docking. Also because, a recent article in "Parrot" magazine had an article about clipping, and had a very graphic picture of a wing clipped by an amatuer, which looked extremely nasty and painful. Unfortunately, not all bird owners are the responsible type who would go to the trouble of a vet, and legislation does not work, and cannot be enforced, so an outright ban is the only recourse. We were fortunate as we had undocked breeds. What was interesting after docking was banned, was the variety of tails previously docked breeds had, some were quite amusing, but the Best we saw was the Schipperke, and its lovely little curled Spitz tail carried proudly on its croup.

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Post by AJPeter » Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:46 am

You do not see many Boxer dogs with long tails.

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Post by sanjays mummi » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:00 pm

All Boxers and Dobermans have long tails, also Old English Sheepdogs, Cocker Spaniels and Pembroke Corgis, AJ , it is a criminal offence to dock, and has been since, I believe the 1980's.

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Post by MissK » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:12 pm

Hi there. I'm venturing in with some degree of trepidation as I don't like to contribute to conflict as a rule, but..................

I feel that wing clipping has great potential to take detrimental effect on the bird and, potentially, on the relationship. I understand that Hane had reduced aggression concurrent with clipping, but I can say also that I'm sure there are variables in our every day lives that we simply don't notice, and for this reason I am not entirely convinced clipping produced this effect. HOWEVER, Melika certainly knows her bird, and those of us in this thread, I think, do not. It could be that her interaction with her bird did improve through the use of clipping. I'm not willing to endorse clipping, but I am willing to agree that (for good or for bad) it is a tool. A tool is never better than the hand that wields it. I am not trying to say anything bad about Melika for her use of clipping, and I hope that's clear.

My greatest problem with clipping might be that I think whatever one hopes to accomplish through clipping can, in my opinion, be equally or better satisfied by another strategy. The strongest argument I have seen made in favour of clipping is that the properly clipped bird cannot fly up, up, and away. The argument I present in answer is that clipping must be meticulously maintained and there is a good chance of feathers growing in sufficient for flight that is not recognized until the bird unexpectedly proves it has recovered enough flight to escape and it does. I feel the attentiveness required to ensure this does not happen would be better spent in ensuring there is no physical escape route available to the bird, better because keeping exit points secure has, in my opinion, far less chance of producing a negative effect on the bird itself. Here in USA we have a building material called Hardware Cloth, and I'm sure they have it where everyone else lives, too, if under a different common name. Typical window screen may not hold a determined Ringneck, but an overlay of hardware cloth will get the job done. http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/34230 ... ware-cloth

I hope my contribution provoked thought. There are many other points to be made in a discussion of clipping, but this is where I wanted my focus to be. I'm not really interested in pursuing analogies at this moment, but my favourite is comparing wing clipping to tying a person's shoes together. For those interested in a non human related analogy, I think horse hobbling is closer to the mark than are ear or tail docking. I've tried both clipping and not clipping, and I have decided that my birds will do better au natural.
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Post by Kate.24 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:11 pm

Hi guys,

So iv finally got my new baby :)

But iv got a little concern. I was sold him as fully weaned but I'm having doubts on it and what his age is.

Because he just isn't eating much crumble or seed and only a little fruit and veg but it has to be chopped up very finely for him to be able to.

I was concerned so I got some formula and he gulped it down.

The first day I got him he only made a little noise when you whistled at him but now you take him out of his cage and he makes a fair bit of noise now and the first 2days he was happy perching and climbing around but just today he tends to just be sitting on the floor.

I'm a little concerned but I also think I'm probably over exaggerating or being overly concerned as I just love him to much to let anything happen to him.

Any thoughts or advice?

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Post by InTheAir » Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:43 pm

Send him back to the breeder until he is at least 12 weeks old. It is illegal to sell unweaned parrots in qld.

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Post by Kate.24 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:55 pm

That's what I thought.

But I drove for hours to get him and it concerns me that if they didn't take the time and care what they would do now.

He defiantly is attempting solids but he just isn't quite there yet I'm guessing.

I just want to do what's best for him. Iv tried contacting them to try find out his real age but I'm not getting a response.

Just a little more concerned about his wondering on the bottom of the cage. Especially after the first 2days I had him he was happy to climb around and flap and play with his toys. Now he just doesn't.

Iv had him on formula for 2days how and he has defiantly picked up which is fantastic just not fully as much as I would like.

I just don't trust taking him back to a breeder that didn't take care of him the first time round.

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Post by InTheAir » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:16 pm

That is the usual attitude in dealing with unscrupulous breeders, which is partly why they keep getting away with it, I'm afraid. I've read too many depressing unweaned baby stories this week!

I'm completely ignorant in baby bird care.
Well, you might get some advice on here if someone who knows about babies happens to check in, but if you are really concerned there is a health issue try finding an experienced local breeder you can phone for advice or if you are really worried there are a couple bird vets in brissy. You could also try to pm or email melika, she knows about babies.

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Post by Kate.24 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:25 pm

I'm not overly concerned just yet.

I just went over to him and he was up and moving and I opened the cage and he jumped right onto me. I'm more interested in why for 2days he was happy to sit quietly on my shoulder but now when I take him out he constantly makes noise.

I can't believe the breeders have done this. I took so much care and research and reviews and I thought I was going through a decent place. Just goes to show just about anything can be faked these days

Defiantly plan on reporting them though.

He seems healthy just wish I could figure out why he is calling so much and bobbing and all that because he wasn't before and he has been feed and won't take anymore so just not sure....

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Re: New Bird Owner General Advice

Post by InTheAir » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:57 pm

Sorry I can't help. Check out the thread on hand rearing and weaning by Melika. It's in the breeding section.
Can he fly?

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Re: New Bird Owner General Advice

Post by Kate.24 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:08 pm

Thanks I sure will.

He sort of can fly but not really. He jumps and flaps and can grab on to the sides of his cage and if you are on a seat or table he sometimes tries but he never gets more than a meter and is usually down not up. Just a lot of flapping really but he is getting there.

He is playing like crazy now which on glad to see at the top of his cage.

Just would like to know if anyone has any answers why he would go from being tame, playful and content too every time he sees me or I take him out he just keeps chirping?

He just becomes really noisy. He used to sit on my shoulder quietly now it's noise the whole time.

Anyone know why he might be doing this?

And like I said I think he is closed to be weaned just not quite because he attempts solids he just doesn't take much and even after he has had food he is still noisey when you take him out or near the cage.

Thoughts anyone?

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Re: New Bird Owner General Advice

Post by InTheAir » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:36 pm

It isn't unusual for a parrot to be quiet for the first few days until it adjusts to its environment. Mine were fairly quiet for the first couple days. Is the noise like a mewling kitten?

if he is near weaning he should fly well (unless clipped, and should not be clipped at a young age). They fledge a few weeks before they are weaned. This is the period when parent parrots show them what to eat and how to be parrots.

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Re: New Bird Owner General Advice

Post by Kate.24 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:02 pm

The first few days it was a very cute soft sound now it's loud and ear piercing.

I just don't get why he isn't eating any of the solid food though.

He eats a little soft thin small bits of fruit/veg and I tried him with a sunflower seed and he ate that but obviously he won't be getting that daily. I thought it might be the pellets I have so I put him on vetafarm nutrient crumble stuff because the lady said that's what he was used to but still nothing.

He hasn't touched and crumble or pellet everyday there isn't much food eaten and yesterday he was very quiet and just off so I ran out for formula because I was concerned and he absolutely shovelled it down so quick so he was a mess. I even sat the mixing spoon down and he was trying to eat of it.

So I'm wondering if he is partly weaned just not fully.

I'm really not sure. I guess as for the noise that seems to be accompanied by bobbing isn't meaning something else and just because the sound of the noise has changed is what has me worried because it's just so loud and constant it gave me a headache because he does it on our shoulder and moves close and bobs at your face.

As for my sitting at the bottom of he cage concern it's pretty much gone his been climbing all around now.

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Re: New Bird Owner General Advice

Post by Gabi25 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:23 am

InTheAir wrote:put a wall protector between the cage and the wall because all their favourite foods are guaranteed to be the ones that stick like glue to the wall when flung there...:
I so wish that I had read this earlier!

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