All registrations must be approved by an admin. Having problems with registration? E-mail us at indianringnecks@gmail.com

Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Moderator: Mods

Post Reply

Male or Female?

Male
1
25%
Female
3
75%
 
Total votes: 4

Wakizashi21
Posts: 33
Joined: Sat May 11, 2013 12:32 pm

Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by Wakizashi21 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:25 am

Is this a male or a female?? im confused now. When i bought this IRN the owner said hes a Male. But im confused. Anyone?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/4zny.gif/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/8ktr.jpg/
Last edited by Wakizashi21 on Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:51 am, edited 2 times in total.

Wakizashi21
Posts: 33
Joined: Sat May 11, 2013 12:32 pm

Re: Is she a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by Wakizashi21 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:26 am

Sorry couldnt make a better photo. Only allowed 500KB. its a young IRN about 13 or 14 months
Last edited by Wakizashi21 on Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:50 am, edited 1 time in total.

Wakizashi21
Posts: 33
Joined: Sat May 11, 2013 12:32 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by Wakizashi21 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:44 am

Changed topic Name

User avatar
Skyes_crew
Posts: 1944
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:49 pm
Location: Hawaii

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by Skyes_crew » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:56 pm

Judging by the pale green line over the back of the neck and the age of the bird I'm going to say its a hen. But don't quote me on that lol. :D
I am owned by my birds...and I wouldn't have it any other way :D

Image

Wakizashi21
Posts: 33
Joined: Sat May 11, 2013 12:32 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by Wakizashi21 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:07 am

do you think its a female? The ring has not fully appeared yet and his bites arnt very harsh (thank god he doesnt bite hard at all). However i think looking at the back of his head the hens do have a more of a round head compared to the males who are much flatter. (not 100%).

User avatar
InTheAir
Posts: 2040
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:24 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by InTheAir » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:21 pm

Can you tell by behaviour?
We can tell our bird is a boy because he does a boydance to the bathroom mirror and tries to feed it. He is only a year old, so his ring is just a pale one like on your bird.

Wakizashi21
Posts: 33
Joined: Sat May 11, 2013 12:32 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by Wakizashi21 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:48 am

Is there a possible chance you could record ur little IRN to show me what the dance would look like?

MissK
Posts: 3006
Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:46 pm
Location: Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.A.

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by MissK » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:56 am

She can just draw you a picture. Very talented, is InTheAir.
-MissK

SCB 22
Posts: 155
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:45 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by SCB 22 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:57 am

Typical male behaviour : Will put their wings out into the "heart" shape and bow down / tap his beak to items. Also easier to teach males to talk.

Typical female behaviour : will crouch down with wings slightly out, while pinning her eyes, with head tipped back making clucking sounds.

Hope this helps.

SCB 22
Posts: 155
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:45 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by SCB 22 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:02 am

Am unable to post pics at the moment, as imageshack is down, but will put some up as soon as i can

Wakizashi21
Posts: 33
Joined: Sat May 11, 2013 12:32 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by Wakizashi21 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:59 pm

Ahhh hopefully will get to see the video soon! haha thanks in advance!

SCB 22
Posts: 155
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:45 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by SCB 22 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:33 pm

Here is typical male and female behaviour. The green is obviously the male, they stand tall, and put their wings out and display, where as the female - the grey turq - will crouch down, tipping her head back and putting her wings out slightly for the male....

Image

Also bear in mind your bird is still young, males take up to 3 years to get their rings. :-)

User avatar
InTheAir
Posts: 2040
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:24 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by InTheAir » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:05 am

Great pic, scb.

User avatar
Skyes_crew
Posts: 1944
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:49 pm
Location: Hawaii

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by Skyes_crew » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:07 am

That pic should be used as the model for "what behavior is this" in a sticky lol
I am owned by my birds...and I wouldn't have it any other way :D

Image

SCB 22
Posts: 155
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:45 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by SCB 22 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:12 am

lol, thank you :-D

MissK
Posts: 3006
Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:46 pm
Location: Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.A.

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by MissK » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:47 am

That's a really great picture - nice looking birds displaying typical behaviour, very clear.

Just one question - shouldn't you conceal their identities before posting stuff like that on the web?
:lol:
-MissK

User avatar
InTheAir
Posts: 2040
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:24 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by InTheAir » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:38 am

Missk, they still have their feathers on. .. Don't be such a prude :mrgreen:

User avatar
ellieelectrons
Posts: 2703
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:17 am
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by ellieelectrons » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:44 pm

I've heard it is especially common for young birds to exhibit both male and female behaviours. In my two birds, (I have a male and female), I've never seen either of them adopting the stance of the other and the photos SCB posted, I thought showed the different stances really well.

Rritoch - with the two birds in the video, firstly, is the bird doing the regurgitating definitely female (that is, is she mature?) Secondly, does she do this behaviour when she is not regurgitating food? Just interested. :)

Ellie.

User avatar
ellieelectrons
Posts: 2703
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:17 am
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by ellieelectrons » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:50 pm

Hi rritoch

Thanks for the extra info. That's really interesting. It makes me wonder if that kind of behaviour is common... although I'm guessing you've probably discussed that on another thread. :)

Ellie.

User avatar
ellieelectrons
Posts: 2703
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:17 am
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by ellieelectrons » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:15 pm

Interesting - thanks!

Ellie.

SCB 22
Posts: 155
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:45 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by SCB 22 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:42 pm

rritoch wrote:
SCB 22 wrote:Typical male behaviour : Will put their wings out into the "heart" shape and bow down / tap his beak to items. Also easier to teach males to talk.

Typical female behaviour : will crouch down with wings slightly out, while pinning her eyes, with head tipped back making clucking sounds.

Hope this helps.
I must somewhat disagree with this. As you can partially see in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJBzMCK2AO4 females often mimic male mating behaviors. As a general rule, 2 years old and no rose colored ring, and you have yourself a female. Breeders aren't known for being honest when it comes to gender of IRN's, they each have their own Voodoo techniques for determining gender and their methods are often less accurate than a coin-toss. That light-green ring though is a fairly clear indicator of it being a female.

Hi there, - just to say i didnt say it will be 100% accurate, i just said, the "typical" behaviour. The green male their i thought was female until he was exactly 3 years old, as he never displayed or danced, and only got his ring at 35 months. So yes, behaviour is never a given, purely a good indication....

User avatar
ellieelectrons
Posts: 2703
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:17 am
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by ellieelectrons » Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:25 pm

Agreed :)

Ellie

SCB 22
Posts: 155
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:45 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by SCB 22 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:35 am

Hi there, i dont have any pics of him when he was younger, but here is one of his offspring from last year, what would you guess it to be? I know the sex, but lets see. (photos arent the best but all i have on my work pc!)

He did have the distinct lighter ring around, which was why we thought he was a girl till he shocked us all and started with his black ring feathers that year!

Image

Image

Image

Image

oh and congrats!! My 3 eggs are due to hatch in the next 7 days so im holding thumbs!

SCB 22
Posts: 155
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:45 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by SCB 22 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:54 am

The bird is 12months this month... And the lack of tail, is thanks to my other bird Peanut who decided he didnt like the poor things tail... Also bear in mind, some pics are taken with flash, some not so it affects the colouring in general, makes some things darker and lighter than they are really :-D So based on age, you still say male?

SCB 22
Posts: 155
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:45 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by SCB 22 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:00 am

What would you say this one is ?

It is a year old in October.

Image

Image

Image

User avatar
ellieelectrons
Posts: 2703
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:17 am
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by ellieelectrons » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:39 am

Someone in our avicultural club believes that males are more likely to leave the nest first because the male forces them out. This is not something I know anything about, but thought I'd mention it.

Ellie.

SCB 22
Posts: 155
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:45 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by SCB 22 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:28 am

Both.... are .....

MALES!!!

:-P

jmlw7
Posts: 179
Joined: Wed May 01, 2013 7:58 am

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by jmlw7 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:36 am

Hi everyone - just piping in that our 1 year old IRN, Remy, who we believe is a female because of her crouching and pinning and clucking... also does the heart shaped mating thing in the mirror.

Our IRN is also extremely noisy, screamy and clingy and likes floors like females who are ready to breed like.

However, she is so young that if she gets a ring in the next couple of years, we will be baffled as we thought her behavior is female hormonal. who knows though really? We never tested her, but so many people who get dna sex tests find the tests were wrong anyway.

For now, we are happy that Remy's name can be suitable for both genders lol :D

User avatar
Skyes_crew
Posts: 1944
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:49 pm
Location: Hawaii

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by Skyes_crew » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:45 am

Looking at just the first two pics of that blue I would have said female. The last pic is a dead give away to a male. I have learned not to go by just the neck ring and behaviors. Heck even a DNA can be wrong sometimes lol. I had my female DNA'd last march, feather, and it came back male. Not a single female behavior that I can think of until this last August which made me question the results. I retested, blood this time, and she came back female. She has a very dark shadow under and a pronounced light blue across her nape.

Image

Now for this one...only thing I will tell you is it is a rising one year old. For those that know the bird, keep it fair please :wink:

Image

Image
I am owned by my birds...and I wouldn't have it any other way :D

Image

User avatar
Skyes_crew
Posts: 1944
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:49 pm
Location: Hawaii

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by Skyes_crew » Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:55 pm

The violet is actually a blood DNA'd male. Most people who see him comment that he looks like a female. Just another reason that you can't always go by the look of a bird :)
I am owned by my birds...and I wouldn't have it any other way :D

Image

Wakizashi21
Posts: 33
Joined: Sat May 11, 2013 12:32 pm

Re: Is the IRN a male or Female? Confused.com

Post by Wakizashi21 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:19 pm

Wow im actually loving the pictures! just come back from spain! (AWESOME) and missed cheeko hell of alot tbh... buh i kno hes close with my mum too so she looked after Cheeko well....

TBH...i havnt seen my bird do any of those dances yet loool! i know Cheeko stands up tall and is starting to make alot of noise downstairs. Im still really concious... haha im thinking maybe ill post some videos of Cheeko just to keep things interesting haha

Ohh one quick question....i do give him a bath every week on wednesdays. Is that enough? Live in the UK so its kinda getting colder...atm its 15c but it will drop soon.

and keep up by posting pictures of the IRNS. Its totally exciting! maybe should put some pics up and let people guess the sex haha

Post Reply