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A new season

Post by Jeremy » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:02 pm

The breeding season has started very early for my birds, its only the end of July and all the Ringnecks are going down.
So far one pair have 4 eggs, at this stage, 3 are definitely fertile. I would say the 4th egg will also be fertile. These eggs will hatch in 2 weeks.

I have another pair that laid their first egg today.

And my other pair are working the nest box :D

How is everyone else's breeding season going?

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Post by Mikaela » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:52 am

Yay! You better share those babies with us!

Do you think it may be because it has been so hot this year?

Jeremy: I am getting a gray. What will the grays Mama and Daddy be?

What should I look for/avoid in a gray... ringneck that is?

Thanks sexy.

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Post by Jeremy » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:29 am

Don't worry, Mik. There will be plenty of pics when they hatch :D
Over here it is Winter :D And actually pretty cold at the moment, but this sudden burst of rain is probably what did the trick.

The parents of a Grey could be anything really. Both parents will need to be carrying the blue gene and at least one will need to be carrying the Grey Green gene.
So: Grey x Grey, Grey x Blue, Grey Green/Blue x Grey, Grey Green/Blue x Blue etc

Not much to look for, just check that the bird is healthy and active. Glassy eyes and plenty of meat on either side of the breastbone :D

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Post by Mikaela » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:41 am

I wish I could have one of your babies.

My breeder has the hots for me and he is uhm... creepy? But he gives me lots of stuff and all clips and trims are free so I put up with it.

Odd thing is: his wife watches the whole thing. My son say they are swingers. They had better swing their asses away from me before I break um down like a shot gun.

I dont want that man, hell often I dont want the one I got! :twisted:

Der, in the cloudy and dusty recesses of my mind I knew it was winter over there. Promise lol
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Post by Bird crazy » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:32 pm

Mik did you see the pic of the grey at the local pet store here. He/she is really pretty.

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Post by Mikaela » Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:20 am

My lord yes, and was like grrrr I WANT!

I am fid and kided out. So, I wait for a bird to pick me so I dont feel bad. ha!

I have four boys... 6, 13, 15 and 18 and trying desperately for the 5th. Yes, in hopes of having a girl... I'll admit it. I know the chances are not good but after you have 2 3 4 5 kids, wants another peanut butter sandwich to make? It gets to where it doesnt even matter lol. 2 or 20.

My husband is addicted to babies. Loves them and we hope to keep one in the family for as long as we can have children safely. I have some years left so 7 at most and we'll stop. My granny did it, I can too! In other words, when his baby turns about 5 or 6 its time for him to have another baby. -shrug-

I do natural childbirth so I assure him HE ISNT DOING ****. He actually thinks birth isnt that big of a deal. He obviously hasnt ever given it!
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Post by Bird crazy » Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:50 am

Hope the next one's a girl for you. Lots of kids, lots of pets it's a great life and really what it's all about. Giving love and receiving love. Kids or pets it's a great feeling.

So I can't tempt you to bite on this grey. We're close enough it's not that far of a ride from the Tampa area.

I'm not going to get a chance to see this birdie today, too much to do but tomorrow I have on my list to go back and visit it.

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Post by Mikaela » Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:51 pm

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Post by Jeremy » Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:51 am

Wow, that went quick!

1 pair had 4/4 fertile eggs, they all hatched but one baby died. The other 3 babies are doing really well, only a few days old.

My other 2 pairs both have 4/4 fertile eggs each, due to start hatching any day now :D

In 2 weeks the fun begins, handraising the bubs :shock: :lol:

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Post by Dani03 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:24 am

You'd better get us some pics mister! I want to see those babies... :D

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Post by Mikaela » Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:34 am

Yeah! Pictures Mister!

Thats one thing that would suck about breeding... the babies that dont make it but Im sure thats common and you expect/get use to it.
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Post by Bird crazy » Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:07 pm

Boy I wish you were closer too, I'd love to see your set up and those new babies.
No new birdies for me either. I'm waiting to see if I can maneuver my male eclectus Rowdy back into my home.

But Mik the little grey is still at the pet store, growing up and still sweet. I saw him yesterday and took him some nutriberries and got him to take it from my hand. I carried him around the store on my shoulder and he was like "cool, I like it up here".

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Post by Mikaela » Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:06 pm

Ahhh Ya killin me :!:

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Grey

Post by Bird crazy » Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:45 pm

$399.00 if I remember correctly. Pretty sure that's it.

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Post by Mikaela » Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:00 pm

Dayum! They want 499.00 for a green here. S/he is a baby still.

How old is the gray? OMG, this could be it. :cry:

I'd like to get a baby-in-a-box... literally that young. Think a breeder would let me do that? I want it as very early as possible.

Bird Crazy:

OH YEAH! Those balls for kittys you and I are letting our fids play with... in the garbage ASAP. Like, hop up and do it now.

Baby snapped the plastic to get the balls out. A very natural response as they like to foriage. Thank God I caught him before it went in his mouth.

He loves them too... Not fair :!: :cry:
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Post by Jeremy » Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:06 pm

Ok, here are the pics.
They will either be Blue or Grey.

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Mik, we only pay AU$80 for a Grey. Its a shame for breeders because they are definitely beautiful birds and should be worth more.

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Grey

Post by Bird crazy » Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:11 pm

Mik: the grey is about 4 months old, the pet store doesn't have a hatch date but the grey is banded so should be able to find out. He's really really pretty. (trying to tempt someone who will give it a great home)

And Jeremy

Isn't amazing how quickly they go from that naked martian look to feathered baby birdies? Thanks for sharing.

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Post by Mikaela » Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:14 pm

Precious!!!!!

Jeremy, I want a gray and Im ready to make the jump but I want to make a good decision. After being baby's mama, it breaks my heart to think I could turn out with a meanie bird.

Anyway, I got Baby at 8 weeks. I hand-fed him... it was awesome. Amazing. I was in aw and love.

My question is:

What is the very youngest a breeder would let me have a baby. Knowing I know what Im doing and Im not some doof off the street ?
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Post by Dani03 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:13 pm

Awww...Jeremy they are adorable! Keep them coming!

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Post by Jeremy » Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:15 pm

Personally, i don't sell birds until they are weaned, i don't care how experienced a person is. Plus, it is illegal to sell unweaned birds here.

But there are people who will sell 1 day old chicks for a bit of cash, or just out of pure laziness.

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Post by Mikaela » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:25 am

*If* I can find a breeder willing to let me get a baby early, whats the soonest you recommend?

I understand the many reasons breeders wont. I wouldnt. I just want a baby... lil bitty baby in a box! -giggle -
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Post by Jeremy » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:27 am

I would say 2-3 weeks would be ideal.

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Post by Mikaela » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:29 am

Hey, while you are here... how cold is the cooldest a ringneck can live outside comfortablely? Under Shelter and I live in Florida.
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Post by Jeremy » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:52 am

Not too sure really. As long as it doesn't get below freezing it should be fine.
My aviary birds survive the Winter, but it usually only gets as low as 6 degrees Celsius.

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Post by Mikaela » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:07 pm

The coldest it ever gets in the dead of winter, at night here is 50 degrees F. On the cold nights I will bring my babies in, otherwise they are staying outside.

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Post by Mattls » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:47 pm

MAN! $399US? That's huge! I'm mates with a breeder, he sold me Sunni for about $60AUD ($45US). He said all his ringnecks are starting to go down this season, I wonder if he'll have any grays?

I'm about to start hand raising a cockatiel for a christmas present for my cousin, but I'd love to get a gray at the beginning of next year...

Oh and Jeremy, I was doing some searching on plum heads as they're in the IRN family, however I read an article that said they can't talk. I know IRNs can, in your experience can plumheads?

One more thing, you said 6 degrees celcius in winter? Are you in Victoria?

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Post by Jeremy » Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:08 pm

I'm not too sure if Plumheads can talk, i would say they probably can.
I am in SE QLD.

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Post by Mattls » Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:36 pm

ahhh SE Qld, my dream location. I honeymooned in Coolum last year.

I like your sun conures, very inquisitive and beautiful.

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Post by Mikaela » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:50 am

Plumheads look cool.
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Post by Jeremy » Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:41 pm

1 pair have 3 big babies and another pair have 4 babies.
My 3rd pair have 2 fertile eggs ready to hatch any day now.

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It looks like i will be taking the first lot of babies for handraising in a few days :D

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Post by Mikaela » Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:34 am

Oh Jeremy... so precious. Mommie keeping an eye on those babies.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing your breeding with us. If not, alot of us would never get to see an egg become a loving pet.

You kick **** man.
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Post by Dani03 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:25 am

Oh they are so precious...great job Jeremy!

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Age please

Post by Bird crazy » Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:05 am

How old are the three babies by themselves? When do they get the feathers? And how old will they be when you take them? Does the mom and dad get sad over it?

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Post by Mikaela » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:34 am

I think its just Jeremys thing (not speaking for him) but I dont think his parents get too involved.

I may be wrong but thats how I remember it. :lol:
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Post by Bird crazy » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:32 pm

Just wondering about the parents missing the babies. I prefer for a pet bird to be hand raised. May be selfish on my part but I think it stands to reason they would respond to humans easier that way. I was just wondering if the parents try to find them, or get upset in some way when the babies just disappear.

I had a nest of mocking birds in my front yard, 3 eggs and one morning all eggs were gone and no babies. I saw the parents come to the nest for a day or two and that was that. Wondered if parrots were the same.

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Post by Jeremy » Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:32 pm

The 3 babies in the first pic are about 10 days old. They won't start getting pin feathers until about 3 weeks.
The parents of these babies are very protective of their nests, the fact that they were handraised doesn't help too much as they aren't scared of me.
Once i take the babies for handraising at 2 weeks old, the parents will be a little confused for a few days, then they will get over it.

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Post by Bird crazy » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:06 am

Thanks Jeremy.

:)

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Post by angie » Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:24 pm

:shock: My story. I have a blue cock and a lutino cock pet, very tame birds. Kai and JOrdan love them to death.

I had to rescue a breeding pair from being set free, a few days they both presented female behaviour :shock: but my blue male Kai found his way to their cage and would not leave them alone, particularly the luntino hen (the other wild female is a blue).

So I got a nesting box and threw, Kai the lutino hen (now named Mickey) and the box into Kai's cage. 30 minutes later they are mating and she is working the box. 17 days later an EGG :D

Now -

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waiting to see how many she will lay, and reading up madly on how to hand raise. I don't have an incubator or such, so I believe I need to wait till about 4 weeks when the babies have feathers starting before I can take them into a small box together.

I've been kinda thrown into this at the deep end, but then God knows thats how I like it :wink:
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Plus Mickey and Mallory (now placed in a new home as a breeder) the wild females, Mickey is now paired with Kai and they are about to be parronts.

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Post by Bird crazy » Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:55 pm

That's really neat Angie. I'm hoping that one day soon my husband and I can get a place out of town further where I can put an outdoor flight cage/aviary. Where we are now I'm sure the neighbors would have the homeowners association knocking on our door before we got the first board up. I love my quiet little house and safe neighborhood, but I'd rather live in the country, where I could go get the mail in my nightie and no one but my husband would know or care, and I could have an aviary and no one would know or care (that would include my husband).
So thanks for letting us live vicariously through your Mickey and Kai.

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info gathering, Jeremy

Post by Bird crazy » Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:37 pm

So Jeremy you're probably going to be hand raising 9-12 if I counted correctly baby birds at the same time.
Wow, that sounds like a lot of work. How often do you feed them, I'm thinking every 2 hours to start. Seems like you wouldn't get the lot fed and you'd have to start over.

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Post by Jeremy » Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:02 pm

At the moment there is definitely 8 Ringnecks. Still 1 egg to hatch but it doesn't look like it will.
I will probably take the first lot out on Wednesday. They will be fed every 4 hours. I feed at 6am, 10am, 2pm, 6pm, and 10pm.
I will also be handraising 2 Green Cheek Conures. They will hatch in about a week and when they are 2 weeks old i will take them out :D

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Post by Jeremy » Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:07 pm

Angie
You may still get more eggs, do you know when the last egg was laid?
I pull my babies out for handraising when the youngest is 2 weeks old, so the oldest baby is usually around 3 weeks.
I don't use a brooder, i don't feel the need to as Ringnecks breed through the warmer months of the year. I put them in a large nestbox with wood shavings, to replicate what it was like when they were with their real parents. All the babies will snuggle together for warmth.
At 2-3 weeks they need to be fed every 4 hours. My feeding schedule is on the previous post.

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Post by angie » Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:47 pm

yes she laid her last egg yesterday morning so I am checking again tomorrow morning, as they lay ever other day. Any hints or tricks or handraising would be wonderful as I am totally new at this. Spoon is ok at that age ? food mixes etc. ? thanks in advance for any help.

Sue Kai and Mickey are in a extremely large cage inside my house, in our birdroom, not an outside aviary. I don't have one, so we will see how things go.

When I took the two new birds, the guy not only told me they were a breeding pair but i could take the aviary for them. I was left with two females and a cage that I would hardly class as a cage. So Kai and Mickey are in Kai's wooden mansion, which is the length of a bedroom wall and as High as I am tall (5 foot 10) :wink:
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Post by Jeremy » Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:30 pm

Try not to check too often. I would have another look in about a week or so, and then you can also candle the eggs.

I use a syringe, the Ringnecks suck at eating from a spoon :lol:
Just enter the syringe into the birds left side of its beak. So it will be your right side if the bird is facing you. Put a gentle flow in its mouth until its mouth is full, then let it swallow the food.
Some babies have a good feeding response, others don't.

I use Vetafarm Handraising Mix. Its the only h/r mix i know of that doesn't contain soy products.
Mix it fairly thick but still able to fall through the prongs of a fork.

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Post by angie » Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:43 pm

Thanks Jeremy :D

Sue this is the cage my breeding pair are in now

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Probably not ideal but its all i Have right now. The nesting box is in the top left hand corner now. Don't have a recent pic of the cage with the box in place.
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Post by Bird crazy » Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:15 am

Hey guys thanks for the info. I love learning all about these guys. I really can't imagine sharing my Nila with a female bird. I think I'd be jealous. :oops: I love him interacting with me. But I think too that they are God's creatures and meant to have a family life just as humans are and I may at some point feel the need to provide Nila with a companion.

Angie: that cage looks great. What a home. I hope they raise their brood and you have healthy happy grandfids.

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When to breed...........

Post by Birdjunkie » Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:32 am

Hope this isn't a dump question it's just that I have read .heard ...different things about WHEN to breed.
Ok..I have a PET yellow female IRN and adult blue IRN when can I put them together?
Also why does one not allow them to raise their own babies. I realize they will be more tame by hand feeding them yourself.
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Post by angie » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:16 pm

kai is still very tame, he just prefers to be with mickey. He still steps up, he still takes kisses and treats. But kai was never 100% tame, he had a flighty side to him, I had tamed him from flighted aviary at 11 months old. If they were in an outside aviary I would say that kai would change a great deal, but he is in the bird room with all the traffic and familiarity of us and his domestic home.

Our Jordan on the other hand I would have great reservations about giving up to a female.

Truly I had no idea this was going to happen with kai. When I rescued the wild females from the man thinking they were a breeding pair, I was going to have my hand at breeding with a wild pair. When they both turned out to be female and the so called aviary they came with turned out to be just a cage and was not appropriate to house them outside I kept them inside and Kai just found his was to the cage, the two just fell for each other, nothing I could do. Kai was smitten and couldn't think of anything else but her. I watched them for a week kissing and displaying through the wire (which is a great and safe way to introduce two birds to each other). Once I knew for sure that he was lost to her they went in together.

Cathe its not that we don't allow, but we prefer to have tame babies, if you let the parents raise them, you are not going to have a tame pet for someone. Most breeders want to sell these babies as it's their living. Hand raised babies is the way to go for selling as pets. I am not a breeder in that respect I simply have a pair suddenly on eggs, I know very little about it all, but am learning. I will probably leave a baby for the parents to raise, especially if its a green one, and take a few to hand raise for the experience and to give to family members.

Anyway Jeremy can answer your questions properly about breeding, introducing birds, when and how and why handraising is done and if its a better option than parent raised etc.
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Post by Jeremy » Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:39 pm

You can intoduce them a few weeks or months before the breeding season begins.
I handraise my Ringecks because if they are parent raised, they are just too flighty. I have seen parent raised Ringnecks in huge aviaries and they fly at high speeds and crash into the wire. There would be too many deaths.
Plus, they make good breeders if they are handraised because they are a lot calmer and will allow you to inspect the nestbox etc.

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Post by Jeremy » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:04 pm

The babies are growing really well, they are so vocal. I can hear them from a few metres away. Looks like i will be pulling them for handraising at the end of the week.

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Post by angie » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:53 am

aww too cute ! so tiny !
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Plus Mickey and Mallory (now placed in a new home as a breeder) the wild females, Mickey is now paired with Kai and they are about to be parronts.

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Post by Dani03 » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:16 am

What cuties! Can't wait for more pics...

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Post by kimtoo » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:31 am

Jeremy--or anyone else that can help!

I need to ask a breeding question that I hope is general to most species because my question is about a pair of Quakers that I just brought in...I think it would apply to ringnecks as well.

The pair has produced noting but clear eggs for several seasons, according to their owner. They have also never had a breeding break and have been on a diet of seed only (3 years of only sunflower seed, last 3 years, cockatiel seed, ~6-7 years old). I have them because the owner is moving out of the country and can not keep them. I am switching them to a mix of zupreem and Harrisons as fast as they will allow but I want to keep them from allocating energy to repruduction for a while. I know that the simple solution is to separate them, BUT, they are so bonded I am afraid that will be as stressful as repro! Will removing the nest box keep them from breeding? I know this may be a stupid question but I have never had breeding birds so I am CLUELESS!

They have bred successfully in the past, I have a 2 year old that they produced--it is very small....

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Post by Jeremy » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:48 pm

Take away the nestbox and any nesting material for a few months.
Keep them on a good diet, add calcium to the water. You will need to build them up for breeding condition for a few months before putting their nestbox back in.

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Post by kimtoo » Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:51 pm

Thank you Jeremy!
Is there a calcium supplement that is meant to be added to their water? I have already pulled the nest box and they are not exhibiting signs of stress.

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Post by Jeremy » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:59 am

I use Calcivet. Not sure if you can get it over there?
It a liquid calcium that you add to the water.

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Post by Jeremy » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:27 pm

They're all growing well.
It looks like I have 3 Greys, 1 Blue, 1 Cinnamon Grey, 1 Dominant Dilute Cinnamon Blue, and 2 Cinnamon Blues. The Blue, Cinnamon Grey, and Cinnamon Blues may also be Turquoise.

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Post by kimtoo » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:56 pm

awwww!!!! A box full of beautiful blue and grey babies! You must be feeling like a proud Papa, that looks like a pretty good season Jeremy :D

How often are you feeding at this point?

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Post by Jeremy » Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:40 pm

I am feeding at 6am, 10:30am, 3:30pm, and 9pm.
This suits them as their crops are nearly completely empty by the next feed.
O have also caught one of the baby Greys chewing on some millet. I will start to introduce fruit and vegies in a few days.

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Post by Kateykat » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:29 pm

Jeremy they are so beautiful!
I am new to the board and too IRN in general so any advice anyone wants to give me will be very much appreciated. Where abouts in QLD are you? I'm in little old Hervey Bay 3hrs past Brisbane.
Sorry to barge into your thread but since you are answering questions can I ask you one too lol?
Is it better to get a baby before they fledge or after? The man that I am getting our baby off is pushing at me taking him/her home before fledging, saying it will make us bond better etc. What do you think?
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Post by Jeremy » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:41 pm

I personally don't sell unweaned birds under any circumstances, it is illegal to do so anyway.
I also don't believe it makes the bird bond to you. That is just a myth.
Ringnecks can be tricky when they are close to weaning, you would be better off leaving it with the breeder, rather than changing its environment.
I am on the Sunshine Coast. About 2 hours from you :)

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Post by Kateykat » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:17 pm

thanks Jeremy, I thought the same thing too, about it being illegal to sell them unweaned. But then again I see so many breeders advertising unweaned babies that I wasn't sure.
Which makes me ask another question. When weaning babies do you use abundance weaning? How do you know when they are weaned properly? Is it a week of big bird food etc? How long after fledging do IRN wean? Or is it the other way around, they wean first then fledge?
Only two hours hmmm :wink: Not that far at all. I have in laws that live in Buderim so two hours isn't much to travel at all
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Post by Jeremy » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:20 pm

There are ways of selling unweaned birds. You can take an unweaned bird but you're not allowed to pay the breeder until the bird is fully weaned. This would all come down to a trust issue in the end, i doubt anybody would try this.
I introduce millet sprays when they are 3-4 weeks old. They won't touch it at first but as they get older they will start to eat it. Around 5-6 weeks i introduce a bowl of small seeds and fresh fruit and vegies. I let them wean themselves, i continue to feed formula until they refuse it. My Ringnecks usually fledge at 7-8 weeks and are usually fully weaned by 10 weeks.

I am very close to Buderim :wink:

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Post by Dani03 » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:47 pm

Jeremy,

You are one of the few breeders I will give any credit to...you do a fantastic job with your babies! You must really care deeply for them. They look like they get very spoiled and well taken care of...

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Post by Mattls » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:13 pm

Buderim hey? My favourite coffee comes from the macadamia factory there!

What sort of prices do your ringnecks sell for Jeremy?

Do you find they respond better to the more humid climate in SE Qld?

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Post by Jeremy » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:43 pm

Depending on the mutation, i only get around $80-150.
Its ridiculous how cheap they have become in such a short amount of time. Nobody sticks with the same species or mutations these days, they all go for the latest mutations, flood the market, and then move on :x
My Ringnecks do very well in our climate. It can get a bit hot here but they adjust to it quite well.

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omg theyre so cute

Post by ambros1a » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:54 am

awww what adorable little babies :D the alien comment looks right on haha. they become beautiful fluffballs so quickly.
the prices in bris of ringnecks are nuts. our albino baby was $180 only 1 month ago, and there was still a beautiful lutino there 2 weeks later, and she was being sold at something like $65 or $70. ive also seen other ringnecks ranging from that price up to over $1200 (when i was researching how much albinos usually cost). The price wasnt a factor when we got baby, it was more that i fell in love with her on sight and she seemed so sweet, and ive been pining for some sort of company for nights when my mans at work lol. i wonder if shed been picked on there (as the vet had 2 pull 2 damaged feathers when we took her for her checkup) and she was sitting on the left perch, by herself, the other 3 on the other side.
another few weeks-months (not sure yet) gonna get a friend for baby, would you suggest another ringneck, or mebbe a tiel or something? btw, we DONT want babies lol, and being unsure what our albino is... they dont get frisky without nest boxes right...? lmao

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Post by Jeremy » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:00 am

A Tiel would be fine, but it depends on what your baby's temperment is. She might be a little too rough for a Tiel.
It would be the same situtation with another Ringneck.
But for some reason, Ringnecks do tend to get along well with Tiels.

They could get a little frisky without a nestbox, but they probably wouldn't go as far as breeding. Just feeding and preening each other.

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Post by ringybaby » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:04 am

Hi Jeremy, lovely babies you have there! Mine havnt performed this year YET! Hopefully they will be at it soon, they have been working the nests and doing heaps of mating but havn't got any eggs yet :( :(

Just a quick question for you, I don't know if you saw my Squeak's pictures on the photo forum but can you please tell me whether you think boy or girl? He/she turned 1 the other day and boy hasn't it been a fun year for me...lol. Squeak started talking 4 days before her hatchday and hasnt stopped since :lol:

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Post by Jeremy » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:28 am

There's still time yet. They might go down.
I can't tell the sex from photos, its totally unreliable.
A video would be better if that is possible?

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Post by ringybaby » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:58 am

Can't get a video as I don't have a video cam :( I can take as many photos as you like though :wink:

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Post by Jeremy » Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:01 am

More pictures wouldn't hurt, i know everyone loves to see them :wink:

I wouldn't take much notice of this, but if i had to guess, i would say that Squeak is a Hen.

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Post by Kateykat » Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:41 pm

Jeremy, do you ever hand raise the more exotic mutations? The violets, the lacewings etc? All the hand raised babies I see for sale are always green,blue and lutino and sometimes grey? Don't get me wrong, I love IRN for the bird themselves but as always am curious about the flashy mutations that are available now a days.
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Post by Jeremy » Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:16 pm

I don't breed the expensive mutations as it is a waste of money. The prices drop so much that there is no point running out and buying the latest mutations.
But people who do have Violets and Cleartails etc do handraise their babies. But they get thrown into aviaries as soon as they are weaned.

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Post by Kateykat » Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:24 pm

Is that a lacewing in your avatar? So those sort of mutations are mostly kept by breeders? Here is another question for you (lol since you haven't minded any of the other thousands of questions I have plied on you) Do you mostly breed for pets or for your own aviary?
Just tell me when I have asked to many questions btw
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Post by Jeremy » Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:36 pm

The bird in my avatar is a Dominant Dilute TurquoiseBlue Cinnamon (Fallow Pastel Skyblue).
Basically only breeders have the expensive mutations, but if you want one as a pet, the price will lower at the ned of this season or next season. So they will be a lot more affordable.
Violets are only $3000 each. By the end of this season they will be a lot cheaper.
I breed for both pets and breeders. Since Ringnecks can easily revert back to being 'wild', handraised birds will still make good breeders.
The only birds i don't handraise are my Lovebirds, although, i am handraising 5 at the moment. But only because it was absolutely necessary.

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Post by Kateykat » Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:12 am

Jeremy wrote:.
Violets are only $3000 each. By the end of this season they will be a lot cheaper.


Wow thats a lot of dosh. I wish I had married a rich man lol :lol:
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Post by Jeremy » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:19 am

Been a long time since I updated so here I am.
The Ringnecks are all doing great, the second oldest Grey bub likes to jump out of the box, he a cutie though. He is so docile I am trying to teach him to lay on his back. He will do it but only for a short amount of time, he'd rather go and explore.
They are 7 weeks old now, they all eat fruit and veg and pick at seed and millet sprays.

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The big Grey bub. Yes, he is missing a toenail. I don't know what happened to him, it came off when he was still in the nest.
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Post by Donna » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:58 am

Jeremy Gorgeous babies! You must be proud :D

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Post by Dani03 » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:06 am

Awww...they get so big so fast...what cuties

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Post by Kateykat » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:52 pm

What cuties Jeremy! Are they all spoken for now? I haven't seen a grey IRN before, they are so pretty. Will missing a toenail affect the grey baby at all, or will it just grow back?
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Post by Bird crazy » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:52 pm

Oh man it's a good thing you're in Australia and I'm in the USA because I would divorce the hubby and take the whole lot. They are beautiful. And the blue and grey together are really a nice combo.



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Post by Jeremy » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:27 pm

I haven't sold any of them yet.
The missing nail won't affect him, it also won't grow back. He doesn't really need it anyway. A few of my aviary birds are missing a toenail, they all get around fine.

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Post by Mattls » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:33 pm

Wow all the ringnecks down here in my favourite pet store are at least $200, some of them $450.

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Post by Kateykat » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:35 pm

Hmmm I wonder if I could 'persuade' hubby to have another baby? Their sooo cute, its not fair to post pictures of them, it gives me a serious case of I want one!
Can I ask how much you are asking for them Jeremy?
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Post by Jeremy » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:47 pm

3 x Greys. $120 each ONO
1 x Blue. $120 each ONO
1 x Silver. $130 each ONO
1 x Skyblue. $130 each ONO
1 x Pastel Skyblue. $150 ONO
1 x Fallow Pastel Skyblue. $150 ONO

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Post by ambros1a » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:57 am

damn it, lol i knew i shouldnt have looked at prices... *smax hand* no more babies till after christmas lol, ill hafta *slyly* show my partner those lil darlings...slip the price in.. heh.. dreams can be nice
saw a couple of gorgeous lil conures on the weekend, fell in love with them.. not the $650 each price tag though =\ sigh
but really, those babies are adorable, so fluffy still, and growing so fast

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Post by Jeremy » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:29 am

:lol: Conures are great birds. I am handraising 2 Green Cheeks at the moment, they are so playful and active for little fella's.

The 2 oldest Grey Ringnecks have discovered the art of flying. I will have to put them in a cage tomorrow and clip their wings in a few more days.

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Post by ambros1a » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:33 am

mmm yea, i believe these guys were green cheeks too, coz i cant find any other green conures that would be that price lol, they were so cute, licking ur fingers jumpin around the place, i swear they had ADD lmao, and i dunno if i could separate them, but $1300 owwies

how old are they when u first start clippin their wings? or is it just a 'when the time arises' deals

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Post by Jeremy » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:54 am

Really? Green Cheeks are only going for around $100 each these days.
At that price, I would say they would have been Sun or Janday Conures?

I usually clip the wings about a week after they first start flying. Or until they are good at landing.

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Post by Kateykat » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:57 am

Maybe they were Maroon-bellied conures?
I had a GCC, they are an absolute blast and I can't belive how cheap they are now a days!
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Post by ambros1a » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:00 am

im not too sure.. now i think about it... they may be sun conures.... but i thought they were the bright orange ones, i think i may have to give her a call in the morning..
oh god, i cant resist... u mentioned having conures... do they have homes? lol, or would they by christmas time? lol, i admit, they were adorable. and if i can sucker him into one... :lol: :lol:

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Post by Jeremy » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:02 am

Depending on what sex they are, I might be keeping both Green Cheek babies.
I was hoping for some Sun Conure babies this season but it doesn't look like anything is going to happen until next year.

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Post by Dani03 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:43 am

omg I am so glad I live here...at that price who could pass up on your babies??? Greys are expensive here...*sighs*

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Post by Jeremy » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:53 pm

The bubs were out playing on the picnic rug :lol: So i took some photos.

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Post by kelly anne » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:48 pm

THEY ARE SO CUTE CAN NOT WAIT TILL MY 3 BABYS GET THAT BIG CO WE CAN PLAY WITH THEM. did you see my babys

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Post by Kateykat » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:28 am

OMG! I just want to scoop them all up and run away with them. How cute are they?!
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Post by ambros1a » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:50 am

ooooh so cute! i want i want i WANT! :lol: lol
ive looked at a few pics as well, and believe the babies ive been eyeing off are green cheeks, not overly sure though, will post in the vids section a short clip i got in the store and forgot about, plz excuse my partners fingers in the way lol, he was tyrna get him to bob his head for the camera lol

those blue and green colours on your babies are amazing, so pretty. they caught my eye immediately.
:wink: i may just have to leave the pics up for my bf to see when he gets home tonight :D hehe

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Post by Bird crazy » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:22 pm

That looks like so much fun, it made me laugh.
I know they can probably get into lots of things they shouldn't but
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