identify who's the daddy??

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sarah23
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identify who's the daddy??

Post by sarah23 »

hi all,
i recently got 3 babies from a friend for hand rearing. Now that their colours have come through i believe the so called father is not the babies actual father (naughty hen).
so the hen is a pastel blue (unsure if she's split to anything) and the cock that fed the hen and helped raise these babies was a normal green (again unsure if split). no other male in the aviary seemed to show any interest what so ever in this hen. They are in a massive aviary about 7 ringnecks and 6 alexandrines. no other ringnecks had a successful clutch as their was only one other male in the aviary and he was albino. i know more than one cock can mate with a hen.....anyhow from the pastel blue hen and green cock we got 1 albino - first hatched, 1 blue hatched second, 1 pastel blue hatched third, and 1 fertile egg. this also was the first time breeding for this pair/aviary set up.
seems to me its impossible for a green cock and pastel blue hen to throw albino and straight blues and not throw any greens if not all greens.
Anyone have any explainations??
if the dad was in fact the albino does this mean the albino baby is female? and the blues are male?
thanks for any info :)
willowisp71
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Re: identify who's the daddy??

Post by willowisp71 »

Hi Sarah,

I could be wrong, but if the green cock was split to albino (blue ino) this pair could possibly produce blue, green, albino and lutino offspring. albino or lutino chicks would be hens. Blue or green chicks could be either sex......

Not sure if I've got the hen right....I was told by someone that pastel blue = blue cinnamon, but I might have got confused there....????

1.0 green /blue ino (albino)
x 0.1 blue cinnamon
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 blue /cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 green /blue cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 blue /ino cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 green /blue ino cinnamon
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 blue
25.0% 0.1 green /blue
25.0% 0.1 blue ino = albino
25.0% 0.1 ino /blue = lutino split blue

PS: I am still learning how to use the GenCalc, so could have got this totally balls'd up.....one of the experts would be better to ask :D but I do so love a genetic challenge :lol:
Regards Deb
sarah23
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Re: identify who's the daddy??

Post by sarah23 »

Hey thanks for the reply :)
pastel blue isn't cinnamon blue. pastel is also known as turquoise or rainbow (depending where you live/what you prefer to call it).
i just thought that even if the green cock was split the green factor was just too dominant in this pairing to produce an albino.
who knows??
willowisp71
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Re: identify who's the daddy??

Post by willowisp71 »

sarah23 wrote:Hey thanks for the reply :)
pastel blue isn't cinnamon blue. pastel is also known as turquoise or rainbow (depending where you live/what you prefer to call it).
i just thought that even if the green cock was split the green factor was just too dominant in this pairing to produce an albino.
who knows??
Ah! Ok, then the turquoise blue hen would read as follows:

1.0 green /blue ino
x 0.1 turquoise(parblue)
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 green /turquoise(parblue) ino
25.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue /ino
25.0% 1.0 green /turquoise(parblue)
25.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 ino /turquoise(parblue)
25.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue ino
25.0% 0.1 green /turquoise(parblue)
25.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue


I still believe it is possible for a green split blue ino cock to produce albino and blue offspring....I actually read another post where this was entered in as a factor for someone inquiring on a genetic pairing. But yes, would be better if one of the more experienced guys/gals would put their perspective on the subject :D
Regards Deb
McmillanBirds
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Re: identify who's the daddy??

Post by McmillanBirds »

Hi

A more accurate one would be as follows:

1.0 green /blue ino
x 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue
% from all 1.0
12.5% 1.0 green /turquoise(parblue) ino
12.5% 1.0 blue /ino
12.5% 1.0 green /blue ino
12.5% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue /ino
12.5% 1.0 green /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 1.0 blue
12.5% 1.0 green /blue
12.5% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue
% from all 0.1
12.5% 0.1 ino /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 0.1 blue ino *here is your albino baby
12.5% 0.1 ino /blue
12.5% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue ino
12.5% 0.1 green /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 0.1 blue
12.5% 0.1 green /blue
12.5% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue

But say theoretically it was the albino male(although unlikely as the green male was feeding etc)

1.0 blue ino
x 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue
% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 blue /ino
50.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue /ino
% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 blue ino
50.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue ino

If you wait a couple more seasons and they pair up again, you will get a general idea with the more babies you get from this pair as to splits etc.

Regards
Carmen
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