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littlemiraclesaviary
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Is this true???

Post by littlemiraclesaviary » Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:47 pm

Someone is trying to sell me a silver lacewing hen with a Lutino male and he is saying that pallid is Co-dominant to ino

no lutino or albino's can be split to pallid

If this is all true what can this pair produce?

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Re: Is this true???

Post by rod038 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:24 pm

Yes but only in the Cock bird. They are called Pallidinos.
Albino Hens and Grey Green and Green Pallidino Cocks.

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Re: Is this true???

Post by littlemiraclesaviary » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:02 am

So what would a silver lacewing hen with a regular lutino cock produce?

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Re: Is this true???

Post by pottermore » Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:05 pm

This pair would produce Green pallidino and silver pallidino cocks

and females would be lutino and grey(sf ino)
Each mutation having 25% chance

The pairing is very good even though I've grown tired of lutino IRN's

The silver pallidino is a very pretty bird to look at and it's not seen that often though

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Re: Is this true???

Post by littlemiraclesaviary » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:38 pm

so why is it that even though the male has no lacewing in it visual lacewing babies can be produced? I thought the male had to be lacewing or split to it to get visual babies. I am so confused....

I love yellow so I will also have the lutino as a staple bird as well as blue they are kind of my lower budget birds for people not looking to spend a fortune on a bird. I still get a good price for them.

I am dying to see a picture of a silver pallidino now I am going to try and find one although I wouldn't know one to see one even if I found it.

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Re: Is this true???

Post by rod038 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:56 pm

This pairing wont produce visual Lacewing Cock birds.

A Silver Pallidino would appear almost white.

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Re: Is this true???

Post by pottermore » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:05 pm

I used gencalc and it says it does

  1.0 ino
x 0.1 grey(sf) pallid
% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 grey(sf) pallidIno
50.0% 1.0 pallidIno
% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 grey(sf) ino
50.0% 0.1 ino

But what I'm assuming is that it is a grey pallid since grey pallid he is selling you, because grey pallid does look like silver
so you need to check with that
silver would be a cinnamon grey bird

This is my assumption, I could be wrong

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Re: Is this true???

Post by littlemiraclesaviary » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:05 pm

do you know where I can find a picture of this silver pallid bird as I can not find any

Thank you

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Re: Is this true???

Post by pottermore » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:14 pm

A blue pallidino is shown here, but this is how a grey pallid should look like

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=13015&view=previous

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Re: Is this true???

Post by smick » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:28 am

Sorry to put my 5 cents in,but could a silver lacewing be greyblue sf cinnamon pallid?. not really into grey's but this would be a nice hen. i was just given a grey cock and can't find a use for him,so i'm giving him away again to a friend.

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Re: Is this true???

Post by Lushen1600 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:16 am

Hi Smick you are correct, this is the outcome of such a pairing

1.0 ino
x 0.1 grey(sf) blue pallid cinnamon
% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 grey(sf) green pallidIno /blue cinnamon
50.0% 1.0 green pallidIno /blue cinnamon
% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 grey(sf) ino /blue
50.0% 0.1 ino /blue

So you would get grey green pallidIno and green pallidIno cock birds which will be split for blue cinnamon and you will get grey(sf)ino and lutino hens which will be split for blue. The grey(sf)ino hen will look similar to an albino

Thanks
Lushen
2014 Pairs
Green x Green
DGreen x DBlue
DE Blue/ino x DBlue
Grey/ino x Albino
Pallidino x Lutino
DE Blue Turq x Grey
DE Grey Turq x Blue
Greygreen/cinn x DE Blue Cinn
DE DBlue Turq x Blue Turq CHWT
Blue x DBlue Turq
Blue x Blue Pallid
Lutino/blue x Blue

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Re: Is this true???

Post by littlemiraclesaviary » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:14 am

So what would a pallid green hen with a lutino male produce the seller is telling me Lutino hens and Pallidino males. Is this also true?

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Re: Is this true???

Post by willowisp71 » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:57 am

The GenCalc appears to agree with that.......but I'm not 100% sure I've entered it correctly :?:

1.0 ino
x 0.1 pallid
% from all 1.0
100.0% 1.0 pallidIno
% from all 0.1
100.0% 0.1 ino
Regards Deb

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Re: Is this true???

Post by littlemiraclesaviary » Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:00 am

I am glad to hear because I purchased them

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