Is this right?

[angeldc77]

I have a Turquoise pallid male and a violet female and was hoping that someone could help me with what I can expect for babies. This is my guess and was hoping that someone can let me know if I got something wrong.

Males
turquoise/pallid
turquoise violet/pallid
violet/pallid

Hens
turquoise pallid
violet pallid
turqouise violet pallid

Will I get any blues with this pairing? I tried using the genetic calculator and it does not agree with information found on other sites that I have researched. I was hoping that maybe someone else might have this same combination of mutations set up.

Thanks for your help,
Angel

[dog_glenn123]

As long as your birds arent split to anything and that they are single factor this is what you will get.

1.0 turquoise(parblue) pallid
x 0.1 blue violet(sf)
% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue /pallid
50.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue violet(sf) /pallid
% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid
50.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue violet(sf) pallid


or depending if your male is turquoise(parblue) blue pallid

1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid
x 0.1 blue violet(sf)
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 blue /pallid
25.0% 1.0 blue violet(sf) /pallid
25.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue /pallid
25.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue violet(sf) /pallid
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 blue pallid
25.0% 0.1 blue violet(sf) pallid
25.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid
25.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue violet(sf) pallid

Thanks Glenn

[angeldc77]

What is the diffrence between a turquoise pallid and a turquoise blue pallid?

[dog_glenn123]

From what i can under stand its an extra cromosone, hopeful somebody else can help explain it.

Does the bird appear more green or blue?


Thanks Glenn

[angeldc77]

when he was a baby he was almost all blue, now that he just finished his first molt he looks to be somewhere in the middle.

[dog_glenn123]

Then he is most likely turquoise(parblue) blue pallid then which would give the following results.

1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid
x 0.1 blue violet(sf)
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 blue /pallid
25.0% 1.0 blue violet(sf) /pallid
25.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue /pallid
25.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue violet(sf) /pallid
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 blue pallid
25.0% 0.1 blue violet(sf) pallid
25.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid
25.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue violet(sf) pallid

Thanks Glenn

[Recio]

Hi,

Blue is a recesive mutation and to be expressed by one bird it must carry the mutation in both cromossomes (autosomic cromossomes). There are some different "types of blue" depending on how the the gen coding for blue mutate: blue, turquoise, acqua. These different ways that the same gen can mutate are called alleles. These alleles display an order of dominance as follows: acqua, turquoise, blue. Some exemples of possible combinations of alleles:
Acqua-acqua .................... looks like acqua
Acqua-turquoise ................ looks like acqua
Acqua-Blue ....................... looks like acqua
Turquoise-turquoise ............ looks like turquoise
Turquoise-blue .................. looks like turquoise
Blue-blue ......................... looks like blue

When working with birds expressing turquoise, their genotype can be turquoise-blue or turquoise-turquoise. Birds carrying turquoise-acqua will display an acqua colouring since acqua is dominant.

The amount of turquoise displayed by one bird can vary from 20% to 80% (in fact less than 20% looks like a blue bird and more than 80% looks almost like a green bird) but the degree of expression does not depend on the genotype of the bird (turquoise-blue or turquoise-turquoise). Nevertheless, it is more usual to find a heavy expression on turquoise-turquoise birds. We can say that the degree of expresion depends of the strain of bird: if turquoise is slightly expressed by the parents, it will be also slightly expressed by the offspring.

The expression of turquoise is always more apparent after moulting specially in birds displaying a soft turquoise.

Hope it helps

Recio

[angeldc77]

Thanks for all your help, I appreciate all your time and knowledge.