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- Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:46 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Cinnamon turquoise violet
- Replies: 37
- Views: 15505
Re: Cinnamon turquoise violet
... Means if a normal male is paired to a mutated female you will only get mutated males?... Above Question is confusing (probably a Typo) , the rest makes sense to me... I did want to say initially: "He is probably thinking of Edged" :D only Edged mutation is known to have that breeding ...
- Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:46 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Cinnamon turquoise violet
- Replies: 37
- Views: 15505
Re: Cinnamon turquoise violet
... Means if a normal male is paired to a mutated female you will only get mutated males?... Above Question is confusing (probably a Typo) , the rest makes sense to me. Ok, Nigel tells me he has many pairs where both male & female are Cinnamon, these pairs could help confirm if both types are c...
- Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:30 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Cinnamon turquoise violet
- Replies: 37
- Views: 15505
Re: Cinnamon turquoise violet
Nigel, You said they are paired up to breed this year. Tell us the pairings & when young feather up we could determine what parents are based on the young; if crossover, a combination of mutations or indeed 2 types, depending on the pairings you've done if you have paired one type X the other ty...
- Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:51 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Any ideas on what this is.
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6949
Re: Any ideas on what this is.
Hi BuksV
Welcome to the forum.
Nice collection of IRNs !
Let us know once you find out more from Johan's contact regarding these birds you have if they are Progressive Pieds etc.
I hope you paired them up to breed this season.
Ben
Welcome to the forum.
Nice collection of IRNs !
Let us know once you find out more from Johan's contact regarding these birds you have if they are Progressive Pieds etc.
I hope you paired them up to breed this season.
Ben
- Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:00 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: SL Edged
- Replies: 273
- Views: 3864884
Re: SL Edged
Johan,
I did show pics of her in a previous thread.
Old pics, i'll see if i can find more recent 1s.
I did show pics of her in a previous thread.
Old pics, i'll see if i can find more recent 1s.
- Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:34 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: SL Edged
- Replies: 273
- Views: 3864884
Re: SL Edged
This morning I had to fix the perch & reluctantly checked the nestbox of the blue/chf x young Edged EmeraldBlue while there only to find to my surprise 3 eggs in the nest
Didn't expected the hen to lay as she looked rather young and not ready i thought.
Hope they're fertile.
Didn't expected the hen to lay as she looked rather young and not ready i thought.
Hope they're fertile.
- Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:05 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Any ideas on what this is.
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6949
Re: Any ideas on what this is.
Hi BuksV, Your birds do not resemble any known mutation that i'm aware of. It could be that it is an acquired mutation however, more often than not it is related to nutrition, the the type of feed that you use, it could be a deficiency of some sort. Make sure you give them a complete feed inc. pelle...
- Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:53 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: 2B or not 2B ?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 13290
Re: 2B or not 2B ?
One needs to understand that opaline does not make the wildtype head darker. The head colour stays pretty much the same, but the body colour, esp. just below the neck ring, is considerably diluted. Well said & I agree. I was caught up in justifying the head color difference but otherwise same l...
- Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:59 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: 2B or not 2B ?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 13290
Re: 2B or not 2B ?
Back on the main subject, see pic below of Phil's Pied opaline which correlates to the last 2 birds in our topic pic (just add emerald) :) For the second from the right i agree. The head looks steps darker like for the birds in the pic on Chris website. madas Last bird from the left is a 7 month ol...
- Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:49 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Any ideas on what this is.
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6949
Re: Any ideas on what this is.
Hi Todd, Nice bird you got there. It is a shame that little work has been put into edged, misty or cinnamon in the last 10 years by breeders. My guess is probably a df edged cinnamon, most edged breeders paired edged x edged so a few DFs around the place. Misty could also be in the mix and lastly an...
- Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:41 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: 2B or not 2B ?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 13290
Re: 2B or not 2B ?
The pic on Chris's website although it is a CT as well, still shows nicely the Opaline markers. Hope you breed your Mauve Opaline this season (i'm jelous) :D https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TBru0y5cRnU/UpsEXJj1SHI/AAAAAAAAAoE/gio6TVaQCXw/s512/10a%2520opalinecleartailmauve.jpg Back on the main sub...
- Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:35 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: 2B or not 2B ?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 13290
Re: 2B or not 2B ?
Any findings on the fact that grey combined with opaline produces the best opalines regarding the opaline markers??? Excellent question. I've been wondering about this too. Trying to produce a mauve opaline to compare with the grey opaline, but haven't had luck yet. Hoping this is my season. :D Loo...
- Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:19 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: 2B or not 2B ?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 13290
Re: 2B or not 2B ?
Hi Mike, Good points to consider. However, as you know since you have TurqEmerald CT, adding another Parblue to emerald is going to make the bird greener not yellower. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-smKQq8p-CXo/UpsFFOUVQqI/AAAAAAAAAtw/kpJ414-K3rc/s512/36%2520emeraldturquioseharlequin_nevilleconn...
- Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:27 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: understanding genetics - where do I start?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 2112
Re: understanding genetics - where do I start?
SilverSage,
You can start with this website
http://psittacula-world.com/EN/Mutations/P-krameri.htm
Deon's book mentioned above can be purchased here (in Australia)
http://www.mcw-indianringnecks.com.au/book-shop
You can start with this website
http://psittacula-world.com/EN/Mutations/P-krameri.htm
Deon's book mentioned above can be purchased here (in Australia)
http://www.mcw-indianringnecks.com.au/book-shop
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:31 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: 2B or not 2B ?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 13290
Re: 2B or not 2B ?
So, you're saying: They are 2 different types of pied genes, certainly morphotype perhaps even genotype (saddleback or not)Kappa wrote:That can only mean one thing. The first two must be of the saddleback line of pieds.
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:55 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: 2B or not 2B ?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 13290
Re: 2B or not 2B ?
Hi Kappa,
Good question to break the ice.
answer is: no turquoise for either of the 4.
the 2nd bird in the pic is from Chris's website
https://picasaweb.google.com/MCWaviarie ... 2653772610
Good question to break the ice.
answer is: no turquoise for either of the 4.
the 2nd bird in the pic is from Chris's website
https://picasaweb.google.com/MCWaviarie ... 2653772610
- Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:41 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: what makes albino
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2233
Re: what makes albino
Lutino Is a Yellow colored bird
Albino is white = Lutino + Blue
Albino is white = Lutino + Blue
- Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:11 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: 2B or not 2B ?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 13290
2B or not 2B ?
We have 4 birds in below pic.
All 4 carry Emerald & Dom. Pied mutations
Bird's sex: L 2 R: Male; male i think; Male; Hen
It is obvious the first 2 have a diff. phenotype compared to the last 2.
Why do you think that is?
http://parakeet.me/irn/m/em/4ep.jpg
All 4 carry Emerald & Dom. Pied mutations
Bird's sex: L 2 R: Male; male i think; Male; Hen
It is obvious the first 2 have a diff. phenotype compared to the last 2.
Why do you think that is?
http://parakeet.me/irn/m/em/4ep.jpg
- Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:26 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: what makes albino
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2233
Re: what makes albino
Albino = Ino +Blue
a grey lutino will still look like an Albino since grey is masked by INO
a grey lutino will still look like an Albino since grey is masked by INO
- Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:08 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Green Split to Blue Question
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1446
Re: Green Split to Blue Question
Hi,
It is very possible.
In fact in Australia 90+% of green ringnecks are split for Blue, it is rather rare to find a green not split to anything.
That includes grey greens as well.
It is very possible.
In fact in Australia 90+% of green ringnecks are split for Blue, it is rather rare to find a green not split to anything.
That includes grey greens as well.
- Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:53 pm
- Forum: IRN Photo Forum
- Topic: Is my new Ringneck male or female? (Pictures!!)
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2329
Re: Is my new Ringneck male or female? (Pictures!!)
Hi,
You have there a beautiful Grey Ringneck
Normally Ringneck's sex can not be determined till they are mature , males have a neckring females don't
You can also DNA Sex it to determine its sex.
One can only guess otherwise, guesses are give or take 20% accurate.
You have there a beautiful Grey Ringneck
Normally Ringneck's sex can not be determined till they are mature , males have a neckring females don't
You can also DNA Sex it to determine its sex.
One can only guess otherwise, guesses are give or take 20% accurate.
- Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:48 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: SL Edged
- Replies: 273
- Views: 3864884
Re: SL Edged
madas wrote:The bird in question? For sure he is a cinnamon. Feets, beak, quills are matching.Molossus2 wrote:not cinnamon
If Cinnamon then it also makes sense why the head is blueish due to lighter colored head of cinnamon.
- Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:21 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Pastel emerald violet pied
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3698
Re: Pastel emerald violet pied
Ok I got the pics Thanks. It could carry the Emerald gene, still, i would want to see good pics of the father and rest of the youngsters. but if i wanted to buy this bird i would not pay more than what a Turquoise Violet Pied is worth due to its size, it is on the small side possibly due to parents ...
- Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:33 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Pastel emerald violet pied
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3698
Re: Pastel emerald violet pied
ringneck
@techemail.com
here's a pic of the violet Turquoise Pied (first bird on the left)
http://parakeet.me/irn/m/em/IMG_7537.JPG
@techemail.com
here's a pic of the violet Turquoise Pied (first bird on the left)
http://parakeet.me/irn/m/em/IMG_7537.JPG
- Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:14 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Pastel emerald violet pied
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3698
Re: Pastel emerald violet pied
From what i have seen the best way i can describe an EmeraldTurquoise Violet Pied V Turquoise Violet Pied The EmeraldTurquoise Pied chest/rump is a lime green color whereas Turquoise Violet Pied has a dirtier lookin rump/chest We are dealing with pieds & it is much harder as they always change t...
- Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:56 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Pastel emerald violet pied
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3698
Re: Pastel emerald violet pied
Do you have/ seen many pics of just Turquoise Violet pieds?
I have a few, i can dig some pics for you if you want.
I have a few, i can dig some pics for you if you want.
- Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:40 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Pastel emerald violet pied
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3698
Re: Pastel emerald violet pied
No, there's not many of them. see pic i added to my first post in case you missed it.
did you see the parent's pic? and happy that it is so?
did you see the parent's pic? and happy that it is so?
- Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:31 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Pastel emerald violet pied
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3698
Re: Pastel emerald violet pied
Lyn, Regarding the debate, before such claim is made (who has & what it looks like etc) i suggest you guys start with pics of the parents The parents One parent must carry the Turquoise mutation & the other parent Emerald, the only way to breed a TurquoiseEmerald & work your way from the...
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:59 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutation?
- Replies: 98
- Views: 149850
Re: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutat
I don't think i was rude ! not more so than your statement claiming you have an emerald bred from Indigo & turquoise.
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:01 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: male or a female???
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1536
Re: male or a female???
It's a Hen
Although best practice is to DNA sex them or wait & once mature males will get a neckring except Albino and some other rare mutation combinations, white colored IRNs, Rec. pieds.
Normally one can not tell for sure ringneck's sex when young unless Surgical or DNA Sexing is done.
Although best practice is to DNA sex them or wait & once mature males will get a neckring except Albino and some other rare mutation combinations, white colored IRNs, Rec. pieds.
Normally one can not tell for sure ringneck's sex when young unless Surgical or DNA Sexing is done.
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:27 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutation?
- Replies: 98
- Views: 149850
Re: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutat
I have breed my first Emerald turquose female last year out of a Indigo and old terms Rainbow Unfortunately you can not breed emerald from above pair. It's like saying an English man married a French woman and they have 6 Chinese kids We as humans sometimes see what we want to see, not what is real...
- Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:58 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Emerald x Normal green pairing
- Replies: 1
- Views: 1233
Re: Emerald x Normal green pairing
Hi Glenn,
It has been done and it will be done again this year with DF Emerald which is a much more desirable option
with a normal EmeraldBlue X Green you get green possible split Emerald
It has been done and it will be done again this year with DF Emerald which is a much more desirable option
with a normal EmeraldBlue X Green you get green possible split Emerald
- Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:25 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: SL Edged
- Replies: 273
- Views: 3864884
Re: SL Edged
Shey,
Here is one
http://parakeet.me/irn/m/em/IMG_7537.JPG
Lee, why not? having more colors in the nest to work with esp. if misty edged.
Here is one
http://parakeet.me/irn/m/em/IMG_7537.JPG
Lee, why not? having more colors in the nest to work with esp. if misty edged.
- Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:58 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: SL Edged
- Replies: 273
- Views: 3864884
Re: SL Edged
Shey
Any chance you can pair him to a violet hen?
Any chance you can pair him to a violet hen?
- Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:50 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: SL Edged
- Replies: 273
- Views: 3864884
Re: SL Edged
Shey, It could be a df edged by looking at the latest pix I got a grey emerald that could be masking deep from 2013. I have a fertile egg from grey emerald x deep vio; this pair should lay another clutch in a week as i have had the eggs removed. I have a grey masking vio chf x deep blue working the ...
- Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:55 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: SL Edged
- Replies: 273
- Views: 3864884
Re: SL Edged
...or it is an edged misty. :P I did not want to say it, i was waiting for Molossus to say it first :D I tend to agree since SF grey edged should not have the wings so diluted but rather have the baring visible head in the last pic also points to misty & increased grey body color in certain lig...
- Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:47 pm
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: adelaide breeding season
- Replies: 1
- Views: 1152
Re: adelaide breeding season
August or late July is about right.
- Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:40 pm
- Forum: Breeding IRNs
- Topic: IRN
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1329
Re: IRN
Do domestic Indian ringneck parrots have specific breeding season? Yes they do. In Europe it is in the spring approx Jan to April, depending where in EU . your season finished not long ago and it is unlikely hen will go down so late, it does happen but rarely and it is not natural for them to breed...
- Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:35 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: 2014 breeding in the Southern Hemisphere
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9753
Re: 2014 breeding in the Southern Hemisphere
My season has started with 1 pair on 4 eggs
couple more pairs i expect to follow within a week or 2 & full swing from there throughout Aug.
couple more pairs i expect to follow within a week or 2 & full swing from there throughout Aug.
- Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:18 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Blue Male/ Dilute Violet Female?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3146
Re: Blue Male/ Dilute Violet Female?
Whimsicalwings
Can you find out the parents of the violet dilute? and what else was in the nest, siblings of the violet dilute?
does it look close to these in pic below? or less violet color?
Can you find out the parents of the violet dilute? and what else was in the nest, siblings of the violet dilute?
does it look close to these in pic below? or less violet color?
- Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:05 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Finding out Zuuls Mutation once and for all
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2689
Re: Finding out Zuuls Mutation once and for all
Your bird is a male; Grey Cleartail (outdated term for cleartail: white head white tail)
- Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:59 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is it?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 4935
Re: What is it?
...But maybe they are split for a rec. pied mutation or even cleartail is a pied mutation. :D Yep. thought about that for a while now. It is odd that my "white Pied CT" bred no pieds from 4 young, curious to see if i get any this season. the only young i kept from them now 10 months old h...
- Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:45 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is it?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 4935
Re: What is it?
It was the tail, the black stripe seen in pic 2 that made me do it.
my initial reaction : is this a Harlequin CT?
not my bird.
Here's another tail's tail
my initial reaction : is this a Harlequin CT?
not my bird.
Here's another tail's tail
- Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:37 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is it?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 4935
Re: What is it?
Turquoise grey cleartail hen it is.
An Indigo would not have as much psittacine/yellow esp. in head area of a young hen.
An Indigo would not have as much psittacine/yellow esp. in head area of a young hen.
- Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:56 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What is it?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 4935
- Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:58 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep green revisited.
- Replies: 135
- Views: 72466
Re: Deep green revisited.
... Tell me what you see, and I'll tell you what I see. http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y514/jschoeman/parBlues/IMG_0102_zps4ada8760.jpg Any chance it could be Homoz. Opaline Misty/Slaty or khaki? :?: Looks like a visual opaline but all markers reduced to only 30% or less visual manifestation
- Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:51 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep green revisited.
- Replies: 135
- Views: 72466
Re: Deep green revisited.
Hi Todd WB , Long time...
I stand to be corrected but i've been told Martin did not pair Dark to Deep, therefore it should carry no Dark in its gen makeup.
I stand to be corrected but i've been told Martin did not pair Dark to Deep, therefore it should carry no Dark in its gen makeup.
- Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:21 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Shining Armour
- Replies: 0
- Views: 1229
Shining Armour
At times i get this Deja Vu that a mutation like Edged or Misty through breeding selection (unintended) evolved its phenotype to blend in and become almost invisible and like a virus lives happily in our cages without being noticed 90% of the time. A Recessive mutation carrying a dominant (invisibl...
- Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:52 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What am i? (again)
- Replies: 25
- Views: 20858
Re: What am i? (again)
Recio, True, if breeder is certain that none of the parents of the fathers carried opaline. Secondly, i have never seen an Ino-Opaline & my thought is that it could be an allelic interaction between the 2 just like pallidino. Possibly giving us InoOpaline= pallid lookalike? has anyone bred an in...
- Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:56 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What am i? (again)
- Replies: 25
- Views: 20858
Re: What am i? (again)
creative thought
Opaline to be part of the gen-makeup as well & we could possibly have here "the creation of Pallid" a triple x-over + allelicism in play
equals; birth of a mutation
Opaline to be part of the gen-makeup as well & we could possibly have here "the creation of Pallid" a triple x-over + allelicism in play
equals; birth of a mutation