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by ellieelectrons
Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:41 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: moody female 2
Replies: 17
Views: 3043

Re: moody female 2

Boredom is a possibility. There is a current line of thinking that companion parrots should also have an outdoor aviary that they spend time in as the outdoors provides stimulation and an aviary provides more opportunity for exercise. I hope to do this for Janey & Charlie one day. Pamela Clark r...
by ellieelectrons
Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:14 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: Sapphires progress
Replies: 187
Views: 49702

Re: Sapphires progress

You won't know if you're a super coach or not until you've done a few tricks with her. You've got to get the communication going. The more she learns, the easier you'll find it to communicate. I have a feeling you're still a super coach!

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:17 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: moody female 2
Replies: 17
Views: 3043

Re: moody female 2

Not sure how much help I can be but... our avian vet does behavioural consultations. I've never had one but if your avian vet offers a similar service, it might be worth trying. Pamela Clark (see http://www.pamelaclarkonline.com/) also offers a consultation service via Skype. She is an expert but in...
by ellieelectrons
Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:19 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: Sapphires progress
Replies: 187
Views: 49702

Re: Sapphires progress

That's a cute nest site!

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:10 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: Sapphires progress
Replies: 187
Views: 49702

Re: Sapphires progress

Hmm. .. I'm not sold on not reacting to a bite, No, I'm not either. However, I'm not sure what the "right" way to deal with it is. My current thinking is that it depends on the cause of/the event leading up to the biting, which is why I liked this article of Barbara's http://goodbirdinc.b...
by ellieelectrons
Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:20 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: Sapphires progress
Replies: 187
Views: 49702

Re: Sapphires progress

Janey has always liked to go in and under things too. I agree that she's just playing and I'm guessing that how you respond to the bites in play will dictate to her how she chooses to use them in the future? That may be where I went wrong with Janey? This could be where the wisdom of the adage of no...
by ellieelectrons
Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:39 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

I think I may have confused the issue with my comments on moulting. I think nesting can delay moulting if the hen is sitting on eggs when the moult is due. In birds that are specifically used for breeding this tends to happen if the breeder double clutches in one year. Sorry if I confused you Peter....
by ellieelectrons
Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:09 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous Comments/Questions
Topic: urgent help needed!!!
Replies: 5
Views: 1937

Re: urgent help needed!!!

Hi Honor It definitely could be hormones as Alisha has suggested. Is it breeding season in your part of the world? Do you do any training with your birds? I suspect that training will help give your bird something else to focus on. It's not going to be a total solution but it will be a start and wil...
by ellieelectrons
Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:05 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous Comments/Questions
Topic: potty training to ringnecks
Replies: 2
Views: 1612

Re: potty training to ringnecks

Hi Alisha It is possible to toilet train a ringneck, however, personally I wouldn't generally recommend it, especially if you're new to ringnecks. Toilet training them can run the danger that they will hold it in until you tell them they can go and holding it in can do them internal damage. Instead,...
by ellieelectrons
Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:03 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous Comments/Questions
Topic: RING NECKS PROBLEM
Replies: 6
Views: 2177

Re: RING NECKS PROBLEM

Feathers are always regenerating. Towards the end of a moult they can get quite dirty. It depends how dirty they are and where the feathers are located. Can you post pictures. What colours are your birds? My lutino (yellow) bird's feathers shows the dirt more than my blue bird's feathers do. Also, i...
by ellieelectrons
Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:56 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

Fingers crossed that she has finished laying now. Sounds like it is hopeful.

You're welcome AJPeter.


Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:57 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous Comments/Questions
Topic: I need so advice on getting a male .
Replies: 1
Views: 1216

Re: I need so advice on getting a male .

If you decide to get a male, you need to be prepared for the fact that they may not get along. Hopefully they will but you never know. What will you do if they don't get along? Do you know why your friend wants to give you the bird? It's good to know any bad points about the bird before you take him...
by ellieelectrons
Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:39 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

So pleased the test is negative. Now if Billie could just realise it's time to stop laying!

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:36 am
Forum: IRN Lounge
Topic: foraging toys for chickens
Replies: 8
Views: 2478

Re: foraging toys for chickens

I bought one. Unfortunately they only had one left. I'll give it to my friend with chickens on Tuesday. She's got two adults and recently got two chicks.

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:46 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: moody female - but it's not breeding season
Replies: 15
Views: 3043

Re: moody female - but it's not breeding season

I see this topic has veered way off course from the original question, so I'm going to lock it. Electronegative, if you'd like to, feel free to start another thread on the same topic.

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:33 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

Peter, Thanks for explaining that. I agree that it's in her best interests to stop her laying. Given that she doesn't seem to mind laying them on the bottom of the cage, I don't know if removing the nest will stop the behaviour or just increase it when they break. However I'm sure your vet knows wha...
by ellieelectrons
Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:19 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

Hi Peter What were your vet's reasons for removing the nest box? I'm worried about her continuously laying egg after egg because the eggs keep disappearing. I feel sorry for the both of you. She must be so confused and it must be difficult for you too. When do you get the chlamidya results? When you...
by ellieelectrons
Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:33 am
Forum: IRN Lounge
Topic: foraging toys for chickens
Replies: 8
Views: 2478

Re: foraging toys for chickens

Thanks. I'd completely forgotten about this thread (and that i was looking for foraging toys for chickens) lol

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:48 pm
Forum: IRN Lounge
Topic: Baby Scrub Turkey :)
Replies: 3
Views: 1463

Re: Baby Scrub Turkey :)

We love the scrub turkeys. Before our wedding, I had visions of blogging as our local scrub turkey to document the progress of our wedding preparations. The time was so busy I only ever did two entries!


This was life pre- Janey & Charlie.

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:40 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: Sapphires progress
Replies: 187
Views: 49702

Re: Sapphires progress

Do you think I should humour her more aggressive side or just not interact with her when she is acting this way? My avian vet tells us to play with Janey by waving a tissue over her head. I think the idea was to get her used to the idea of having something covering her head, I can't exactly remembe...
by ellieelectrons
Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:14 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: What to do with Janey?
Replies: 89
Views: 57096

Re: What to do with Janey?

Hi Peter My guys are due for their annual avian vet check so I thought I'd discuss the open nest idea with him then. Not sure if I'll do it again this breeding season. Playing around in it seemed to take the edge off her aggressiveness although it could have been the seasonal timing that did it. I n...
by ellieelectrons
Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:52 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: moody female - but it's not breeding season
Replies: 15
Views: 3043

Re: moody female - but it's not breeding season

My avian vet and Pamela Clark (parrot behaviour consultant) both advocate for not allowing companion parrots to nest so I try to do everything I can to prevent it. See this thread for more info on my struggles with this: http://www.indianringneck.com/forum/vie ... =2&t=14905

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:31 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

Or maybe she knows what the rest of us do know - that's it infertile ;)

Good luck with the tests. I hope they're negative for chlamydia.

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:30 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: moody female - but it's not breeding season
Replies: 15
Views: 3043

Re: moody female - but it's not breeding season

I think all I can do is offer my commiserations. We've been away for a couple of weeks and we took Janey & Charlie with us. Mostly she's been the perfect bird whilst we've been away. We had to come home to do some things so we're home again for one night and this morning Janey flew at my twice w...
by ellieelectrons
Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:25 pm
Forum: IRN Diet & Housing
Topic: Will this Jute be ok to use?
Replies: 7
Views: 2284

Re: Will this Jute be ok to use?

Jute is generally fine but as MissK said there could be a problem with the dye.

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:56 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

Hi Peter Unless you have another reason for removing the egg, if it doesn't break, I would leave her original egg in the nest. If it does break, I'd probably give her the dummy. When Janey nests I tend to leave her to her own devices as much as possible. I check the nest once a day but other than th...
by ellieelectrons
Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:19 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

Hi AJ With the dummy eggs, you should only use them to replace an egg that's been laid and by that I mean if the egg has been laid, you pull that egg out and replace it straight away with the dummy egg. She still may reject it but it is more likely to work that way. However if her nest eggs aren't b...
by ellieelectrons
Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:20 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: New Ringneck Baby, question about behaviour
Replies: 3
Views: 1338

Re: New Ringneck Baby, question about behaviour

Young birds can do exploratory biting which isn't intended to inflict pain but definitely can be quite painful. Does the bird do it out of the cage too? I'm not sure what the "recommended" method of dealing with exploratory biting is but a couple of ideas come to mind: 1) If the bird is on...
by ellieelectrons
Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:07 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself!
Topic: Marley came home today
Replies: 6
Views: 1460

Re: Marley came home today

Congrats. Take good care of him/her. :)

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:56 am
Forum: Our Angels in Heaven: Rainbow Bridge
Topic: lost of Bluey
Replies: 11
Views: 5056

Re: lost of Bluey

I'm so sorry to hear about Bluey. My guys have occasionally run into glass but they have never had such a bad injury. I'm so sorry. Unfortunately I think that could happen to anyone. Try not to blame yourself if you can.

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:50 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

I think she needs to lay the egg directly into the box. IRN nest boxes that breeders use a quite large. I would recommend getting one, putting nesting material in it and seeing if she uses it. I don't know if she will as she has already started laying. However if she does lay in the box it will less...
by ellieelectrons
Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:43 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A little overwhelmed - advice/thoughts greatly appreciated.
Replies: 18
Views: 1986

Re: A little overwhelmed - advice/thoughts greatly appreciat

Ellie is absolutely right, towelling is not a good idea try and accelerate their coming to your hand, by holding a treat and let them over come their fear, by patiently waiting. I didn't mean to say towelling isn't a good idea. In emergency situations you do what you have to do. Towelling won't fur...
by ellieelectrons
Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:39 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

Where is she laying her eggs? The reason not to give a nest box is to prevent laying. If she is laying any way you can give her a nest box of some description. It may help protect the eggs.

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:44 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A little overwhelmed - advice/thoughts greatly appreciated.
Replies: 18
Views: 1986

Re: A little overwhelmed - advice/thoughts greatly appreciat

Hi Ashaa I am new to this forum and hoping for some advice. Welcome. Sounds like you are doing a lovely thing for these two birds. Regarding taming, I think you are doing all of the right things - putting them where they can see you go about your daily routines without being observed themselves - be...
by ellieelectrons
Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:48 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

Hi AJPeter

I'm just reading through all of this now as I'm on holidays. So sorry to hear you've had so many dramas. I hope you and Billie are both okay.

Best wishes.

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:42 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: Sapphires progress
Replies: 187
Views: 49702

Re: Sapphires progress

The birds are in the dining room, we can't move them to another room as downstairs is open plan (the cages are also on the only patch of tiled floor) and upstairs is stinking hot! Any suggestions on how we can ensure they are getting enough sleep? Do they nap during the day? I remember Pamela Clark...
by ellieelectrons
Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:59 pm
Forum: IRN Lounge
Topic: 2014 :
Replies: 3
Views: 1455

Re: 2014 :

Happy New Year to you all! May 2014 be a great year for us all.

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:40 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

Only kidding Ellie, but something happened today which makes me think Billie is moving towards a moult, she was standing in her bathing water up to her waist and the water had gone cold, l used one of the spray guns with cold water to gently spray her and she just stood there getting wet. I thought...
by ellieelectrons
Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:09 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

Pulling her feathers out will not bring on a moult. Moults are triggered by seasons. I believe you can try to trigger an end of season with UV lights but I've never done it.

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:57 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: Training Delfin and Bluey
Replies: 2
Views: 603

Re: Training Delfin and Bluey

Congrats on the progress. Well done!

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:54 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: The Taming of Aero
Replies: 34
Views: 6506

Re: The Taming of Aero

I don't mean to be a bore, keep talking about the same subject. But it is OFFICIAL!!! Aero is finally not scared when i changed his food and water and he stayed there with one foot tucked up staring at me like: "Oh hi there, finally remembered my food"! :mrgreen: This is my first real mil...
by ellieelectrons
Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:52 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

Fresh figs, passion fruit, and pomegranates are not really sweet, then there are the citrus fruits, lemon and lime, as oranges Can be. Sanjay likes kiwi fruit they're a bit on the sharp side if they're not over ripe. I'm pretty certain that passion fruit is high in sugar. I train some Alexandrines ...
by ellieelectrons
Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:35 am
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

AJPeter - I'm pretty sure the reason she was happy to go in the cat box was because it is a potential nest. Mixing up her environment like you have been is good. I'm glad she hasn't actually regurgitated on you yet. My recommendation would be to put her down every time she looks like she wants to tr...
by ellieelectrons
Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:33 am
Forum: IRN Video Forum
Topic: Flash learning her first trick
Replies: 2
Views: 1992

Re: Flash learning her first trick

Nawwww. Such a beautiful baby! Well done.

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:37 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

Hi AJPeter Yes, try to stop her from regurgitating to you, EVER! By regurgitating I mean the whole process, putting their digested food on you. My birds very occasionally will do the regurgitating motion around me but not actually bring up the food. Admittedly it's rare that they do that but my bird...
by ellieelectrons
Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:12 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

After breeding season your bird will moult.

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:11 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

Is she trying to regurgitate to you? If so, this is part of the mating behaviours. Unfortunately, not a sign it is ending.

Ellie.
by ellieelectrons
Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:10 pm
Forum: IRNs Behavior & Taming
Topic: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.
Replies: 221
Views: 48774

Re: A thread for AJ and Billie about hormonal behaviour.

They do swell up before laying. I noticed it in the vent region. You should provide her with extra calcium at this time (e.g. Cuttlefish fish, calcium perch). What do breeders use Claire? Was it plaster-a-Paris? Also, stay away from peas. When Janey was nesting she couldn't get enough of them. I had...