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- Wed May 14, 2014 1:15 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9881
Re: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
Thanks Madas & Bob for the info/pics. Recio, where are you? Looking at the 3 pieds non of them look the same, all 3 have different amount of yellow/green saddle, do you know the sexes of the offspring? could it be influenced by the structurals? LtoR Violet Parblue Pied, Cobalt Parblue Pied, Par...
- Tue May 13, 2014 11:23 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9881
Re: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
Are you sure? I would define it as a kind of "mottle" pied which then is a multifactorial recessive mutation(-combination) according to MUTAVI.prodigy wrote: the progressive pied in the collection that you have posted is a form of dominant pied
- Tue May 13, 2014 10:03 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9881
Re: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
I got the permission (great thx goes to Bob) to post the pic mentioned earlier. So here it is:
parents:
offspring:
madas
parents:
offspring:
madas
- Tue May 13, 2014 7:04 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9881
Re: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
Yesterday i got the info that the frist org. OZ violet saddleback has thrown two "saddletype turq" violet blues. Pic will be provided then i got the permission. So the statement that the saddlebacks don't breed normal (non-pied) turq birds isn't correct any more. madas Any Edged or Opalin...
- Tue May 13, 2014 3:34 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Opaline comparison
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5293
Re: Opaline comparison
Will take some months. Birds still breeding and some start moulting. So at least 2-3 months to go before they are ready for a photo shooting.Ring0Neck wrote:Nicely done Madas!
Can you showcase the birds as well?
madas
- Tue May 13, 2014 3:28 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9881
Re: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
Yesterday i got the info that the frist org. OZ violet saddleback has thrown two "saddletype turq" violet blues. Pic will be provided then i got the permission.
So the statement that the saddlebacks don't breed normal (non-pied) turq birds isn't correct any more.
madas
So the statement that the saddlebacks don't breed normal (non-pied) turq birds isn't correct any more.
madas
- Mon May 12, 2014 6:08 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Opaline comparison
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5293
Opaline comparison
Some main flight feathers of opaline birds. Left to right: opaline green, 2x opaline violet(ef)green, opaline violet(df)green, opaline dark(df) green, opaline violet(ef)blue, opaline dark(df) blue, opaline dark(df) violet(ef) blue. Full sunlight: http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/img8501c5yo9mx...
- Wed May 07, 2014 3:44 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep green revisited.
- Replies: 135
- Views: 61550
Re: Deep green revisited.
Is your display broken? Can't see a bird with black flights in the pics.Ring0Neck wrote: Deeps with black flights
- Wed May 07, 2014 3:42 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep green revisited.
- Replies: 135
- Views: 61550
Re: Deep green revisited.
Yeah that's how i remembered it. thx for clearing up.samb05 wrote:It is the bird on the right that has been mislabeled. In this full pic it is a Deepblue and in willy crop pic its is a Cobalt
- Wed May 07, 2014 2:37 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep green revisited.
- Replies: 135
- Views: 61550
Re: Deep green revisited.
Ups. Sorry.
Already resolved. Haven't seen.
An extract of the 2nd pic was posted by Willy some months (years???) ago labeled left deep right dark.
So all you have to do for the first pic is compare the tail feathers (mostly color and length).
madas
Already resolved. Haven't seen.
An extract of the 2nd pic was posted by Willy some months (years???) ago labeled left deep right dark.
So all you have to do for the first pic is compare the tail feathers (mostly color and length).
madas
- Wed May 07, 2014 2:30 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep green revisited.
- Replies: 135
- Views: 61550
Re: Deep green revisited.
Hi everyone, A puzzle from Martin. Which are the deeps and which are the cobalts? http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b583/Kappa1975/imagejpg2_zpsc2af3277.jpg http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b583/Kappa1975/imagejpg1_zps091a4522.jpg Easy one: 2nd pic deep, dark, deep. 1st pic dark, deep, deep.
- Sun May 04, 2014 5:07 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What am i?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 8131
Re: What am i?
My anticipation was right. :D "where's the fourth bird?" :P I had to transfer the fourth chick to another pair because it wasn't fed in the right way and trampled down by the other three chicks. So it is lagging behind the other. Means no visible feathers until now. Hopefully next weekend...
- Sat May 03, 2014 8:01 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What am i?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 8131
Re: What am i?
I already can anticipate your next question. :P But i already have 3 questions :D & probably not what you were thinking where's the fourth bird? to start with :P can we see it? what is that "normal" bird? trying to make sense of the 2nd pair. My anticipation was right. :D "where'...
- Sat May 03, 2014 1:04 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What am i?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 8131
Re: What am i?
How on earth did you even guess opaline, at this early stage? ... lol Using all my 6 senses; few hundred calculations :D & because Madas posted the question :) an Opaline enthusiast. thx for your kind words. :D If i am not completely wrong there is only one mutation which is causing white downs...
- Fri May 02, 2014 8:47 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What am i?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 8131
Re: What am i?
Until now only one is for sure opaline. Not the darker green on the right has grey downs (not opaline) and the one on the left has white.
The upper right can't carry two violet gens. Mother hasn't one.
Sure the upper left is only dark green???
The upper right can't carry two violet gens. Mother hasn't one.
Sure the upper left is only dark green???
- Fri May 02, 2014 8:14 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What am i?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 8131
What am i?
All birds at least have one dark factor. Taken with flash.
Edit: full res pic: http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/ ... kflp9t.jpg
madas
- Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:38 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: urgent all australian breeders
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4749
Re: urgent all australian breeders
Then send some dom. pieds and emeralds to Europe.Mad Max wrote: Prices of birds have dropped by at least 25% and sales have dropped by even more .
madas
- Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:13 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: IRN Gen Calculator
- Replies: 17
- Views: 4934
Re: IRN Gen Calculator
They don't work at the moment. Still in development.Mad Max wrote:Thanks Madas
You are a star . I love it
I noticed you added D/Parblue crossover with a type 1 and a type 2 .
Can you please explain how they work as I havent got a clue
Regards
Robert
madas
- Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:03 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Structural mutations (an SA perspective)
- Replies: 27
- Views: 5797
Re: Structural mutations (an SA perspective)
And, to get a bit more on track again with the original picture, the bird partially visible at the far right (next to the turqblue) looks like this: http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y514/jschoeman/SA%20Deep%20or%20Violet/IMG_3236_zpsd4716c23.jpg Madas, there's your riddle. :D This is easy: SA 'd...
- Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:58 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Structural mutations (an SA perspective)
- Replies: 27
- Views: 5797
Re: Structural mutations (an SA perspective)
No players except Ring0? What a pity. Sure but not always online. :) Some people have to work. :D Left to right: dark(sf) violet(sf) blue, dark(sf) SA 'deep'(sf) blue, dark(sf) violet(sf) green, dark(df) blue. To quote myself: dark(sf) violet(sf) blue, dark(sf) SA 'deep'(sf) blue, violet(sf) green,...
- Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:56 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Structural mutations (an SA perspective)
- Replies: 27
- Views: 5797
Re: Structural mutations (an SA perspective)
And, to get a bit more on track again with the original picture, the bird partially visible at the far right (next to the turqblue) looks like this: http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y514/jschoeman/SA%20Deep%20or%20Violet/IMG_3236_zpsd4716c23.jpg Madas, there's your riddle. :D This is easy: SA 'd...
- Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:49 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Structural mutations (an SA perspective)
- Replies: 27
- Views: 5797
Re: Structural mutations (an SA perspective)
Have another look at this one: http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y514/jschoeman/Violets/IMG_3303_zps9719b0f8.jpg So is it the same green series bird as in the other pic? if it isn't dark(sf) violet(sf) green then dark(sf) SA 'deep'(sf) green. Or is it another riddle? :?: For my eyes to dark or &q...
- Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:08 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Structural mutations (an SA perspective)
- Replies: 27
- Views: 5797
Re: Structural mutations (an SA perspective)
Sure but not always online. Some people have to work.Johan S wrote: No players except Ring0? What a pity.
Left to right:
dark(sf) violet(sf) blue, dark(sf) SA 'deep'(sf) blue, dark(sf) violet(sf) green, dark(df) blue.
- Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:40 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: EmeraldBlue Ino
- Replies: 31
- Views: 7046
Re: EmeraldBlue Ino
Doesn't look violet now too. Looks more like normal EmeraldBlue or deep Emerald tail enhanced by the pied gen but not violet.Ring0Neck wrote: it had no violet in the tail
- Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:10 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep green revisited.
- Replies: 135
- Views: 61550
Re: Deep green revisited.
http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s541/Trabots/Trabots%20new%20April%2014/5DeepBlues.jpg Ben has interchanged one of Willy pics. So here is the correct second one. Now the three males look nearly the same beside small deviations which should be caused by the blue base color. Furthermore the bird ...
- Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:30 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: EmeraldBlue Ino
- Replies: 31
- Views: 7046
Re: EmeraldBlue Ino
I was thinking Madas would pick that madas picked it but was unsure if the shiny yellow back is only caused by emerald and dom. pied or if another parblue is in play. That's why i asked if it is a dom. pied emeraldTurq. Wasn't aware of the fact that a emerald saddleback exist. :D So nice bird. Some...
- Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:58 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: EmeraldBlue Ino
- Replies: 31
- Views: 7046
Re: EmeraldBlue Ino
So the one in the background is a dom. pied emeraldTurq?Ring0Neck wrote:Spot on Johan all 4 do.
here's a better pic of the hidden one
striking color on the tail
- Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:34 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Greyish Brown CHCT
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1888
Re: Greyish Brown CHCT
Yeah or you send an email with the pics to mada_s(at)ymail.com
- Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:11 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Greyish Brown CHCT
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1888
Re: Greyish Brown CHCT
Could be SL cinnamon. Do you have some pics of the brownish offspring?
- Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:46 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: EmeraldBlue Ino
- Replies: 31
- Views: 7046
Re: EmeraldBlue Ino
Yeah but only possible if emerald isn't an allele of the blue locus. But for now it is. So only turqEmerald is possible.Kappa wrote: I would suggest trying to at the very least aim for df TurquioseEmerald ino.
madas
- Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:37 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: EmeraldBlue Ino
- Replies: 31
- Views: 7046
Re: EmeraldBlue Ino
Now we are getting closer to one of my favorite emerald phenotypes.Johan S wrote:Add to that some contrast, and you get to something like an emerald grey harlequin, one of my favourite phenotypes.
- Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:12 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: dominant or recessive
- Replies: 38
- Views: 7448
Re: dominant or recessive
That means that my bird can't be a recessive pied if thats the case. One breeder called her a pied then a funny looking lacewing but she has a blue head. Still trying to send photos. Cheers. Hi, even bad marked ADM rec. pied are showing a yellow resp. white spot on the head. So no spot no ADM rec. ...
- Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:11 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: dominant or recessive
- Replies: 38
- Views: 7448
Re: dominant or recessive
Upsi. I thought you ment not exist.Ring0Neck wrote: Madas, I said available by which i mean for sale
Sorry then.
To clarify with rec. pied i don't mean ADM rec. pied from USA or SA.
madas
- Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:19 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: EmeraldBlue Ino
- Replies: 31
- Views: 7046
Re: EmeraldBlue Ino
Emerald is best displayed when the melanin is removed (in my opinion), so I find it hard to believe that there isn't more emerald inos around. Ok well, not that hard. People will usually throw their two most expensive mutations together in the hope of breeding something even more valuable. But stil...
- Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:03 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: dominant or recessive
- Replies: 38
- Views: 7448
Re: dominant or recessive
This isn't correct at all. ;)Ring0Neck wrote: In Aus. there's only Dom. Pieds available
I know two kinds of rec. pieds in OZ.
madas
- Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:32 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 66925
Re: Saddleback ?
Some pics again from Chris (comments will follow):
madas
madas
- Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:04 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 66925
Re: Saddleback ?
Some more pics of Chris:
madas
madas
- Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:04 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 66925
Re: Saddleback ?
here is the pic of Chris (comments will follow by him self):
madas
madas
- Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:42 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 66925
Re: Saddleback ?
i have tryed loading photoes ,its just to hard ,sorry There are no red eyes in the saddleback line ,its just the way that photo turned out. Hi Chris, thx for your response. But if the three birds are siblings why is the bird on the left showing a completly other "eye" then the other two? ...
- Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:02 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 66925
Re: Saddleback ?
Alright Kripke. ;)Ring0Neck wrote:
Tell Cooper that Bazinga is a Jellyfish, right here in OZ
- Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:58 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: No Neckring when Mature
- Replies: 19
- Views: 5504
Re: No Neckring when Mature
And a visible grey neckring. ;)Ring0Neck wrote:
Hi John,
Saddlebacks don't have colored tail at fledging from what i've seen. mine got it about 9months old
this bird below got his black tail at 3 y o
Btw: nice birdy on the right.
- Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:22 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 66925
Re: Saddleback ?
The red eye might be from the flash/angle of the eye & in fact there could be no red eye. we can see flash was used. still. But the heads all three birds are forming the same angle to the camera. So i don't think it is the "red-eye" effect. Point taken, the camera yes, but the bird's ...
- Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:23 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 66925
Re: Saddleback ?
Btw: the bird on the left isn't showing a visible iris as well.
- Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:21 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 66925
Re: Saddleback ?
But the heads all three birds are forming the same angle to the camera. So i don't think it is the "red-eye" effect.Ring0Neck wrote:The red eye might be from the flash/angle of the eye & in fact there could be no red eye. we can see flash was used. still.
- Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:57 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 66925
Re: Saddleback ?
Hm. Don't think so. Can't see any Emerald indicator.Ring0Neck wrote: Recent pic of my violet SB 2013 bred
http://parakeet.me/irn/m/em/d/s/DBvSB.jpg
Madas, do you think my SB has Emerald in it?
Have you checked the underwing section?
- Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:05 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 66925
Re: Saddleback ?
Then ask Philip Highland. ;)Ring0Neck wrote:Maybe bred from saddleback but i see turquoise.
Whose birds are they? Parentage? etc the person who has these birds shold know why red eyes on that bird.
- Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:47 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Saddleback ?
- Replies: 183
- Views: 66925
Re: Saddleback ?
Why does the saddleback on the left is showing a red eye and the other two don't?
thx.
thx.
- Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:55 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: No Neckring when Mature
- Replies: 19
- Views: 5504
Re: No Neckring when Mature
You're right, I should have just added another pic not replace. My bad. Taken last month. green's neckring looks a bit faded but i see black. Green Pied is split opaline, if it counts for anything. http://parakeet.me/irn/m/em/d/s/P2089719c.jpg Then one of us must go to the optician. :) The blue bir...
- Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:42 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: No Neckring when Mature
- Replies: 19
- Views: 5504
Re: No Neckring when Mature
looks normal to me. http://parakeet.me/irn/m/em/d/s/piedsz.jpg Why have you changed the pic to this blurry one. The pic posted before clearly showed grey neckrings. So please re-post the orginal one. A normal green IRN shows a black/pink neckring. A dom. pied green shows a grey/pink-orange. madas
- Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:15 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: No Neckring when Mature
- Replies: 19
- Views: 5504
Re: No Neckring when Mature
heres the emerald harlequin cock Taliep spoke of. No neck ring visible. http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o698/Roodekrans/IMG-20140314-WA0014_zpsfe3872c0.jpeg Hm, i wouldn't say "no neckring". But not as good expressed as in a normal "IRN". I can see a bright grey neckring. A ...