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I would think only a handful would exist. dfViolet, dfDark Blue (dfViolet Mauve) I think Johan's attempting this for this season? I imagine it would look much like the sfViolet Mauve Hi Shey, it was one of the pairs I suggested to my dad, but the two birds were placed with different partners. There...

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They look about 6.5 weeks to me, and at that stage they still need plenty of feeding for the next couple of weeks. They won't eat by themselves at this time. That's normal. I'm surprised they are eating sunflower already. Good luck!

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Beautiful bird, madas!

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I agree with grey cleartail as well. You have some more photos showing the back and tail?

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Yes, many breeders don't remove the boxes and simply block the entrance.

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Kappa, from an SA perspective, our light strain of violet, which we locally refer to as NT violet (Nico Theunissen) violet has, in the last few years, started going through a transformation where some consider it to be the same as the Aus deep mutation. As for the "American" violet, that b...

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madas wrote:Paul has such "pied ct" too and i think some breeders from SA also.

I haven't seen any. You know who?

I bred some double splits last year, but I'm far away from the pied ct combo.

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Any chance it could be Homoz. Opaline Misty/Slaty or khaki? :?: Looks like a visual opaline but all markers reduced to only 30% or less visual manifestation Hi Ben, I'm 99% sure those factors don't come into play. The haziness is simply because I didn't set the camera settings properly. The bird wa...

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Can I join in this one. I want to test myself. In pic 1 I see a slight lightening if the tail and flights and a slight darkening of the head. Light feet? Pic 2 is a bit more challenging, and the only thing I can pick out is the scalloping effect across the back. Pic 2 is more difficult. I have the ...

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Benjamin, not the easiest challenge you could set. It is not simple to capture with a camera. These are the two best examples I have. Tell me what you see, and I'll tell you what I see. http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y514/jschoeman/parBlues/IMG_0102_zps4ada8760.jpg http://i1278.photobucket.com/...

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Why not remove the nest box? Alternatively, you could replace the eggs with fake ones. But if it was me, I wouldn't put my birds through the strain of breeding if I didn't intend to have chicks on the perch a few months later.

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It depends on what you plan to do 2-3 years on. If you require DF pied (a fantastic bird to breed with), then you have to use the green pied hen with the blue pied. If getting 100% pied offspring from such a DF pied isn't a major concern for you, then the violet hen can be used. In that case, both p...

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Because one of the fathers is for sure split for lutino so can't be split for pallid. The other is possible split for lutino because his father was sure split for Lutino. And i have a feeling that the SL Edged turqBlue /Cinnamon /ino? (? = possible split ino) isn't a son of the Misty SL Edged Indig...

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@Recio: I think SL Edged and cinnamon are linked (btw: we still have no correct info regarding the crossover rate between Sl Edged and Cinnamon). So maybe the youngsters are SL Edged-cinnamon-lutino. But as you know the crossover rate between cinnamon and lutino is very low for a normal green doubl...

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Hi Hassan, I thought from your first post you were sure already. Absolutely no problem with having it sexed if you are unsure. Go for it.

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My personal opinion is that there is no cause to suspect anything other than our typical SL recessive mutations (here pallid or cinnamon) until there is definite male offspring. The first bird is 50/50, but the other ones are females (I'm 90% sure). Because of the very clear heads, I'm sticking with...

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My personal opinion over the years have moved from quantity to quality. I'd rather buy fewer birds, with more valuable mutations for the same price.

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Well, you said it is a hen, and it looks like a hen too. Is there reason to doubt this?

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They only other option is that they could possibly be fallows.

Why do you say they aren't what they appear? Were they bred from black eyed parents and some of the offspring are male? The offspring looks female to me.

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Hi Johan Is that what the very dark beak is about? I did ask the breeder (Paul COURT) about that and a couple of dark feathers on each shoulder but he couldn't shed any light on it other than to tell me that both parents came from JS. Kind regards Mike Hi Mike, no not the dark beak. The heterozygou...

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Hi ErnieisAwsome Molossus knows what he is talking about and is therefore probably correct looking at the photo above . I only have one green, a rising one year old split opaline but the single opaline gene should not affect the colour. I have tried to attach library photos of him but if it doesn't...

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I agree, I'd go with recessive pied based on the pied cap on the head.

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prodigy wrote:this is Lee we talking about thats why i asked

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Peter, I've not heard of the appearance of turquoise or indigo alex, only blue and emerald. We'll have to wait patiently. Unless somebody has some good news.

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Melissa I don't have Emeralds though I do have a family of Indigo that I have been working with for some years. What I am confident of these birds appear in different colour morphs that is indicated in the colour of psittacine, one being Wild Green the other being Aqua Green now before the hysteric...

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Still want to know what you say about the book "Ringneck Colour Genetics by Deon Smith"? http://sunbird1.co.za/?page_id=53 This is a good book too, and I prefer it over the Bastiaan book because it covers more recent findings in mutations. And of course, it is also great that Dr Deon visi...

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Cobalt violet turquoise.

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colour variation in df deep blue. These cock birds are full brothers bred in the same season in seperate clutches. http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b583/Kappa1975/imagejpg4_zpsc0a6ffd3.jpg Thanks for these, Kappa. What were the parents of these two birds? If there was a DF parent involved, did i...

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Hi Ben, yes, that's what I was referring to. It would be very nice to see two green series brothers, one carrying blue or turq, the other carrying emerald, side by side. Johan, Yes, that would be nice! This green in above pic i believe is /turquoise first year breeding with him & i have another...

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Hi Ben, yes, that's what I was referring to. It would be very nice to see two green series brothers, one carrying blue or turq, the other carrying emerald, side by side.

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Yes, that cobalt violet colour is amazing. Ringnecks can not compare.

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tell him he's going to KFC..works for mine :lol: I'm going to remember that! There is a misty cock at my place not taking to a gorgeous hen... :twisted: :lol: As for the season, I haven't seen any mating, but that could be because I'm almost never home these days during daylight. SA is being hit by...

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If we have a look at this picture, and focus on the region surrounding the neck ring (top and bottom), what are everyone's thoughts on this question(s): Is the amount of silver that we see in that region normal for a green violet, or does it seem a bit in overdrive and remind us of the cheek region ...

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Well, the topic is "What am I?" I'm going with pastel fischeri! :D I stopped breeding agapornis in 2000. Had to sell my collection to pay for my studies. Every now and then I think to myself, maybe I should throw 2 or 3 pairs in my IRN communal aviary for youngsters. The fischeri do have t...

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You know it is always a better choice to pair a green series to a blue series bird. ;) Spoken like a true personatus and fischeri breeder! :lol: I took my sweet time learning that the best way forward is often started by one step backwards. Those early mauves could never compete with the feather qu...

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Hi Johan From what you say re Lee's Green Alexandrines it would seem clear that there is a mutation at work. The issue still for me is whether or not that mutation is the Emerald gene we see in IRNs. IMO, if it is Emerald, there should be a clear as day marker in the undertail yellow area of the pl...

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Yeah, but it's up to Lee to post quality pics of his Alexandrines. The small resolution pics we got don't help in this topic. :( Perhaps Johan can take some pics if he visit Lee again. :D Here are some 'old' photos. Did you forgot the last time this topic was discussed (also with so much passion)? ...

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madas wrote:And to add the green series opaline showed a yellowish skin triangle in the neck. Any one who noticed this too?

Very interesting. Pity we don't have any green series opaline.

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Here is an example copied from the web For the sake of simplicity, we usually teach genetics using examples with only two possible alleles (A and a). But a single gene can actually have many possible alleles (A, a, A1, A2, A', etc.). For example, hair color in mice is determined by a single gene wi...

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Almost all alleles of a locus that we know in aviculture interact the same to the wildtype (consider the SLino-locus with 3 alleles, bl-locus with 3 to possible 5+ alleles and the a-locus with 3 alleles). But this doesn't have to be the case. It simply means that blue and parblue can be recessive t...

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Just one question Johan & this will clear my doubts : Can a gene locus house two genes ? examples will be helpful Sherjil, I don't know the exact terms used by the people in genetics, but the way it works is that a locus holds/houses two copies of the same gene for the wildtype, one copy of the...

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Hi Ring0Neck you seem to be talking about two blue genes having two different loci where all parbue types are allel of blue1 and emerald being allel of blue2 ? how does this blue2 mutant look like ? Hi Sherjil, you have it halfway right. The implication of a possible second blue is true, but not of...

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can parblue ever be dominant? The long and the short of it is no, a parblue can only be recessive since it does not modify psittacin directly, it alters the concentration. However, I believe that an allele of blue can modify the nature of non-fluorescent psittacin to become what we see in emerald, ...

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No problem, I'll play along, but I have another question too. 1) Tell me why, please. I know you want to. :D 2) In your view, does the "master" gene of the blue locus a) turn of normal psittacin production completely, i.e. no psittacin is deposited, or b) alter the psittacin in such a way ...

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how is it possible for a parblue(emerald) that already evolved on its own allele to now show psittacins patches over and above its complete parblue composition. I refer to Willys(non turquoise) patched emeralds. Molossus, it actually fits well into a second model I consider for the blue locus, wher...

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Hi Doc, here is a collection of 2013 birds in their juvenile moult out the nest. First, our typical turquoise parblue: http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y514/jschoeman/parBlues/IMG_2205_zps43959172.jpg A collection of saddle type turquoise parblues http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y514/jschoema...

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Doc, I can throw around some ideas to explain the low number of parblue non dom. pied offspring from the saddlebacks, but the fact is I don't know for sure. If the psittacin distribution is caused by a parblue of the blue locus (which I believe it is), then a linkage would also be observed in the of...

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Doc, this certainly is a riddle that has created a lot of talk. When one considers the violet 'saddleback' hen of Bob earlier in this topic, and some of the offspring, it is clear that there is a lot of variability in the "richness and intensity" of the yellow saddle region. There also see...

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But some of these dark birds had another feature, black upper bills and/or dark nails. This represents a general increased deposition of melanin not only in the feather follicles but in the skin appendages as well. I don't know of the skin itself but I expect it. As you all know, no described struc...

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PS: one other thing - the green dom. pied is incredible! That's really a beauty with the almost perfectly clear body and unaffected head.

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