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by Ring0Neck
Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:08 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Breeding a guaranteed homozygous parblue
Replies: 26
Views: 4767

Re: Breeding a guaranteed homozygous parblue

Johan :lol: I knew that was coming 8) :?

Test theory of Parblue's inheritance, %s & phenotypes along the way.

Did I win? :lol:
by Ring0Neck
Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:23 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Breeding a guaranteed homozygous parblue
Replies: 26
Views: 4767

Re: Breeding a guaranteed homozygous parblue

I suggest we hunt down green/parblue birds with proven record of breeding visual parblue & green only, when paired to a blue Saves us 3 years + * When acquiring : Best if you see the young in the nest/cage to have no doubt of the green being /parblue Done within 1 breeding season. At the end of...
by Ring0Neck
Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:28 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

Hi Recio, ... Emerald seems to be unique to IRN and his very close cusin Alex, so it does not exist in other species. I would not take any conclusions before analysing the phenotype of the non blue split Emerald (specially when other mutations are included in its genetic make up) and, since we all ...
by Ring0Neck
Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:33 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

Johan, Briliant looking bird. However i'd say that's a homozygous Aqua. pinkish ring? Now, if somebody would be kind enough to post a proven green series heterozygous emerald bird in IRN to show that it is indeed recessive, that would be splendid. Working on it. Breeeder is only available on weeken...
by Ring0Neck
Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:58 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

If we apply the same reasoning to we could say: if Lutino removes every melanin ... how could a SL-ino Cinnamon show any melanin? Thus lutino and cinnamon must be alleles of the same gene and not different mutations. .... so things are not that easy. The golden prove will be pairing a DF Emerald (e...
by Ring0Neck
Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:56 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

Johan, As to the post of Madas, I'm not sure exactly what you mean how it explains dominant breeding. Looks like parblue breeding to me. That's what i am saying, Parblue. His explanation explains the breeding results of Alex's . Why is it that now we think it inherits dominantly? Breeding results c...
by Ring0Neck
Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:56 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep blue ! How Deep ?
Replies: 51
Views: 8940

Re: Deepblue ! How Deep ?

:?

How about this 1?
http://parakeet.me/irn/m/6.jpg
:D

Do you think LtoR 2nd & 4th is the same mutation and factors? sf....
Perhaps we're looking at simply age difference expresivity 2 y old & 3 y old respectively...


by Ring0Neck
Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:27 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep blue ! How Deep ?
Replies: 51
Views: 8940

Re: Deepblue ! How Deep ?

Great idea Madas ! It'd be great if one of you can do it, we know it's a big job but it'll be much appreciated. Meanwhile i have a Puzzle for anyone bored, give it a go try n guess these birds gen. makeup or just tell us how many diff. phenotypes do you see? http://parakeet.me/irn/m/5.jpg or tackle...
by Ring0Neck
Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:22 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Turquoise n...
Replies: 25
Views: 3701

Re: Turquoise n...

Peter has posted this pic in the Emerald thread. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6Ee9b6shkrI/Un_jCImHyCI/AAAAAAAAF1o/Lu_1QHTyqv0/s800/20131016_170926.jpg Peter, are you sure that bird is Opaline? is this phenotype of Opaline Turquoise? is the tail yellow because of opaline? my bird looks very si...
by Ring0Neck
Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:33 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

Mike, Great brainstorming excercise . Some old news, but it seems we need to refresh our memory. Aqua = Emerald as we are well aware Aqua is an established mutation in other species of birds and confirmed being a Parblue mutation. Take Lovebirds for example, (i read about it as i have little experi...
by Ring0Neck
Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:11 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What colour do you think my babies will be?
Replies: 21
Views: 2414

Re: What colour do you think my babies will be?

Sky I'm no good with edge results. Shey or Ben, can one of you do it? Here's the trick :wink: The name tells all - SL Dominant So you know Cinnamon and how it works yes? SL Edged is the same ! 1 single difference: all offspring that would have been splits in Cinnamon in SL Edged are Visual unlike C...
by Ring0Neck
Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:02 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What colour do you think my babies will be?
Replies: 21
Views: 2414

Re: What colour do you think my babies will be?

http://parakeet.me/irn/f/edge/edgepair.jpg

http://parakeet.me/irn/f/edge/Edgeaf.jpg

I'm not entirely clear on clear flights.

I assume DF Edged &+- Cinnamon has to do with it, but one can wonder if Misty or the like is in there too.

by Ring0Neck
Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:55 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

Hi Mike, Great work ! I think would have been easier to follow to break it into 2 paragraphs, one with assumption of being parblue & one as an SL mutation or Recessive?? as it can not be dominant to wildtype because we are talking splits here. Again we can safely eliminate SexLinked as we well ...
by Ring0Neck
Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:23 pm
Forum: Breeding IRNs
Topic: Handfeeding as opposed to Handraising
Replies: 9
Views: 1967

Re: Handfeeding as opposed to Handraising

3. :lol:

also, syringe feeding helps since you have less then a minute interaction with the chick
by Ring0Neck
Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:48 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What colour do you think my babies will be?
Replies: 21
Views: 2414

Re: What colour do you think my babies will be?

Smart dogs I was eatting boiled corn on cob, he looked with full concentration at me for a couple of minutes, i gave him a go at it... you should have seen him eatting like a human grabbing the corn off the cob with his teeth and turning the cob with his paw, i was shocked how quickly he picked it ...
by Ring0Neck
Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:37 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What colour do you think my babies will be?
Replies: 21
Views: 2414

Re: What colour do you think my babies will be?

The male looks to be cinnamon grey turquoise edged -blue hen


Sky:
Do you have an Arcticwolf?
i have a husky cross german wolf :D
by Ring0Neck
Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:47 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

Hi Mike, You lost me here... I don't see how it could be a Violet Blue SF Emerald because it can't have 2 blue genes from that pairing, unless the father is a Green Cleartail SF Emerald split blue rather than a Green Cleartail split emerald. Can you tell from his history if he is possibly split blu...
by Ring0Neck
Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:21 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Saddleback ?
Replies: 183
Views: 66632

Re: Saddleback ?

Could also be a cinnamon opaline hen?
by Ring0Neck
Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:57 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: DF Emeralds
Replies: 47
Views: 8286

Re: DF Emeralds

Paul, The forum idea is simple: everyone to positively contribute to conversations . As far as questioning Willy's emeralds i can tell you that last year he got an emerald/CT hen from me that was acquired from Nigel Carr which in turn has his emeralds from late J S. If Willy had any doubt about his...
by Ring0Neck
Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:48 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Cleartail X Dom Pied
Replies: 76
Views: 20177

Re: Cleartail & Dom Pied

Hi Willy,

The Pied was not split CT??

Can Ron get some pics of the parents for us?

*** Could it be NSL INO ? .... :?

My white looking bird bred no pieds and therefore no white/yellow birds.

by Ring0Neck
Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:20 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Cleartail X Dom Pied
Replies: 76
Views: 20177

Re: Cleartail X Dom Pied


2 chicks made it from second clutch
and my funny season comes to a close
out of 32 possiblities i get the 2 worst ones
a grey green & a blue :shock:

by Ring0Neck
Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:56 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

Hi Recio,

We'll get the pics.

I know what you mean guys. I'd feel the same.
Hence me wanting someone else to confirm findings and possibly take pics.

I'd like to tempt Shey to make the 4h trip
Shey: see PM
by Ring0Neck
Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:28 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

Thanks Kappa, well, let's play :lol: I"m up for it. Interestingly enough myself and Willy on totally different ocassions have said " I wonder if Deep has s-thing to do with Emerald" or s-thing similar. **Both mutations came from J Smith at very similar time :idea: Well. I've just don...
by Ring0Neck
Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:04 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

the split emerald is in fact a 2 y old male,

yes CT

I'd like someone else other then myself to confirm the findings.

Shey, perhaps you want to come down for a drive? near the airport.

I have ph numbers feel free anyone wishing to confirm or visit the breeder/s

Cheers
Ben
by Ring0Neck
Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:41 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

Shey, the split emerald is in fact a 2 y old male ;) i also assumed was a hen while talking to Aaron and he corrected me. I'm dissapointed too. I would have preferred Emerald to be a non parblue mutation as well. :cry: I was looking forward to green series emeralds. At the end of the day, facts sta...
by Ring0Neck
Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:41 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

Molossus, If he does not bother to take the pic, i will go to take photos myself. He might do the photo for Willy if he asks, he wants me to go visit him one weekend. So pics will be coming of the parents. Reason i'm happy is that we have 2 breeders that are contactable most breeders in OZ know JF ...
by Ring0Neck
Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:52 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

Are you sure Ben? What if the father is a CT Emerald Green /Blue??? Then you can still get VioletBlue /CT and Green /CT /Blue youngsters. Your thoughts? BTW: two offspring birds prove nothing. My opinion. :( Stefan, Yes, I'm sure. Unless emerald green is not visible to naked eye, which i highly dou...
by Ring0Neck
Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:03 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is the mutation where body is blue tail is violet?
Replies: 148
Views: 24977

Re: What is the mutation where body is blue tail is violet?

I got 15 min rain today, i got the same bird + his brother turned green again pic below. I did not notice others turning green only dirty brown and some did not get wet more rain is forcast... http://parakeet.me/irn/m/PB106157.jpg http://parakeet.me/irn/m/PB106157AL.jpg (same pic only Auto correcti...
by Ring0Neck
Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:06 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Re: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

Great news. The Green youngster would be split Emerald OR Blue then, not just Blue. But then... it wouldn't be a true parblue... You're thinking of the reverse parblue x green/blue but the reverse does not work the same green/parblue x blue = all blue birds will be parblue all green /blue right? I ...
by Ring0Neck
Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:40 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation
Replies: 199
Views: 108347

Case Closed: Emerald = Parblue Mutation

Hi All, I have the 100% proof required to close the case of Emerald being a parblue mutation. Pair: Green CT/emerald X violet blue/CT Offspring: Violet Emerald/ct Green/blue/ct Breeder got the male as possible split emerald from J.F. Breeder's name is Aaron Qld Aus Willy knows this breeder and i wi...
by Ring0Neck
Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:37 pm
Forum: IRN Photo Forum
Topic: We call him Tricky Sneaky - Can you spot him?
Replies: 7
Views: 1819

Re: We call him Tricky Sneaky - Can you spot him?

MissK wrote:Doesn't that make YOU the tricky, sneaky one?
:wink:

He is the tricky... he "told" you i'm sneaky :lol:

PS
Here's a cute wet pied

Image
by Ring0Neck
Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:30 pm
Forum: IRN Photo Forum
Topic: We call him Tricky Sneaky - Can you spot him?
Replies: 7
Views: 1819

Re: We call him Tricky Sneaky - Can you spot him?

Shey

You got it.

All looking at the action uptop except the 1 on the left is keeping an eye on me att :D
by Ring0Neck
Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:25 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep blue ! How Deep ?
Replies: 51
Views: 8940

Re: Deepblue ! How Deep ?

Willy,

Good to know, i was hoping no dark deep combo as it would have made IDing a pain.
Mark was the person that got the bird back in 09, he sold all his birds in 10 or 11

by Ring0Neck
Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:00 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is the mutation where body is blue tail is violet?
Replies: 148
Views: 24977

Re: What is the mutation where body is blue tail is violet?

At this point, I still believe its the violet that is reacting in his bird, not the emerald.


Sky,

I was thinking any or specific parblue + violet ? dark? or combo?

I expect rain soon i'll take some pics then.
by Ring0Neck
Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:47 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep blue ! How Deep ?
Replies: 51
Views: 8940

Re: Deepblue ! How Deep ?

Ben the likeness is there.. imo its a little early to make comparison for conclusion. Hi Molossus, Yee, for that i need patience ... Got any ? :lol: I waited a year to do a same age close up comparisson No surprise if it is deep blue as the breeder who has them got birds that come from Martin Gatt ...
by Ring0Neck
Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:30 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: EmeraldBlue combinations
Replies: 5
Views: 1421

Re: EmeraldBlue combinations

Willy,

did you also get any non emeralds in that nest?
i got 1 emerald out of 4chicks , not so lucky ... as was my season.

by Ring0Neck
Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:45 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep blue ! How Deep ?
Replies: 51
Views: 8940

Re: Deepblue ! How Deep ?

Could we comfortably say that the 2 birds in the bucket are of the same mutation? IMO these birds are practically identical ** No tricks here. small bird a proven Deep blue & larger bird i suspected as either deep or PR modifier. pics are in diff lighting conditions and flash was on auto, taken...
by Ring0Neck
Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:40 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Saddleback ?
Replies: 183
Views: 66632

Re: Saddleback ?

Criskoi
For the one from Europe i know for sure the bird was breed out of dom. pied green /blue /opaline x turq violet cobalt.

do you happen to have a pic of the bird your referring to?
or is it the one Madas posted earlier?

Cheers

by Ring0Neck
Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:13 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Turquoise n...
Replies: 25
Views: 3701

Re: Turquoise n...

Mike, How old your was your bird when it started losing the yellow? Molossus, very interesting thoughts, thanks for sharing. I was thinking of acquiring the father and pair him up to this girl:d http://parakeet.me/irn/m/P9034306x.jpg to confuse things further :lol: http://parakeet.me/irn/m/DSC_0131...
by Ring0Neck
Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:47 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is the mutation where body is blue tail is violet?
Replies: 148
Views: 24977

Re: What is the mutation where body is blue tail is violet?

What does it mean? that is the question. Yep, that's the Q ! & we're going to find out soon, i just wish it would rain... so i could have many samples. At this point if i had to Guess i'd say these birds carry as Molossus said; Deep or perhaps the PR modifier this is just the best explanation i...
by Ring0Neck
Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:14 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Turquoise n...
Replies: 25
Views: 3701

Re: Turquoise n...

I looked but no feathers popped up yet in that area, in a couple of days.
by Ring0Neck
Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:02 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is the mutation where body is blue tail is violet?
Replies: 148
Views: 24977

Re: What is the mutation where body is blue tail is violet?

Sky, Willy's reply I can't say that will apply to my case. Probably true when water drips down the feathers, but when soaked (from rain) blue feathers look dirty grey, as if they played in the mud. My pic you have seen the turquoiseblue that turned dirty grey next to the bird that turned green (sib...
by Ring0Neck
Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:23 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Turquoise n...
Replies: 25
Views: 3701

Re: Turquoise n...

Thanks Johan,


I've bred approx 12 turquoise birds this year and they were not feathering up like this fella.
none have yellow in the tail
so it must be a diff phenotype of turquoise as opposed to what lines i have.


by Ring0Neck
Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:21 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Saddleback ?
Replies: 183
Views: 66632

Re: Saddleback ?

But said to be unusually bright.[not in my control ].
If these bright birds were hens then we can not eliminate Sl Edged
by Ring0Neck
Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:22 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is the mutation where body is blue tail is violet?
Replies: 148
Views: 24977

Re: What is the mutation where body is blue tail is violet?

Another way possibly to test the violet strain??? Whether the dark factor is involved or not??? Very interesting if it is. that would be excellent if it were the case- though if the birds pictured in that old thread of Ranechild's are all nest siblings then it is debunked already (one showing green...
by Ring0Neck
Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:05 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Turquoise n...
Replies: 25
Views: 3701

Turquoise n...

This is what i pulled out of the nest today and noticed unusual markings for a turquoiseblue looks as if it has a saddle on its back rather clearly & a yellowish tail. Pics of the parents & young as well as paint.net sys http://parakeet.me/irn/m/DSC_0173.jpg male has a yellowish-pinkish nec...
by Ring0Neck
Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:10 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Saddleback ?
Replies: 183
Views: 66632

Re: Saddleback ?

Chris, What i would love to see is the blues & violets etc non saddleback siblings, more specifically thier flights/wing stretched if possible. IMO, it's the easy way to rule out Edged, dilute etc... Bob also confirmed that no Turquoise was bred from his Saddleback, did not get an update from h...