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by Deon Smith
Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:04 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: **** URGENT ALL South African Breeders ****
Replies: 70
Views: 48504

Re: **** URGENT ALL South African Breeders ****

Wow but the typo in Louis Bothma's letter is beyond terrible!
by Deon Smith
Sun May 25, 2014 3:42 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is this dark Violet?
Replies: 26
Views: 10199

Re: What is this dark Violet?

madas wrote:

it must be a "blue series" bird because the tail and main flights are white. This is not the case for a "greygreen". :D

madas

Could be the effect of the Harlequin mutation. :wink:


Deon
by Deon Smith
Sun May 25, 2014 3:14 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is this dark Violet?
Replies: 26
Views: 10199

Re: What is this dark Violet?

But this cannot be. Can this be a Grey TurqTurq Harlequin?


Deon
by Deon Smith
Sun May 25, 2014 3:10 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is this dark Violet?
Replies: 26
Views: 10199

Re: What is this dark Violet?

madas wrote: Not turqBlue Harlequin but Grey turqBlue Harlequin. two distinct birds as you can see.

Madas this must be a Greygreen TurqBlue Harlequin, given the wide, even distribution of psittacins in its base coloration.

Deon
by Deon Smith
Sun May 25, 2014 1:37 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is this dark Violet?
Replies: 26
Views: 10199

Re: What is this dark Violet?

These are awesome birds with crystal-clear, sharp colour definition. If one looks a little closer, the two layers of yellow psittacin is visible, one incorporated in the base colour, and then the sharply delineated foreground layer of a very bright sunflower-yellow brilliance, warm and rich. I would...
by Deon Smith
Wed May 21, 2014 7:01 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
Replies: 27
Views: 9861

Re: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?

Thank you Johan, this is what I was seeking.

What is your observation, in these saddle types, of the presence of parblue coloration while till in the nest, and its evolution further on?

Deon
by Deon Smith
Wed May 21, 2014 12:04 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
Replies: 27
Views: 9861

Re: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?

Regarding the parblues, I don't think they are that rare. Johan, I was actually referring to the rarity of Parblue offspring from a saddleback morph, like the Violet Parblues we have seen in the pictures of Bob Irvine. Of huge interest to me, is the parblues with the central concentrated psittacins...
by Deon Smith
Mon May 19, 2014 8:33 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?
Replies: 27
Views: 9861

Re: Has the saddleback code been cracked ?

To crack this code will take a lot of sensible breeding and collation. In my humble view, a Saddleback is a certain morph, it's not a mutation per se but is probably a combo, of a Dom Pied with a certain pied pattern, combined with a Parblue. But what Parblue, and why is the percentage of Parblue (u...
by Deon Smith
Mon May 19, 2014 7:51 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Who will step up and take a chance : is it Emerald?
Replies: 1
Views: 1375

Re: Who will step up and take a chance : is it Emerald?

Lee

Where is your UV torch? This may be a far-reaching, ground-breaking finding.



Deon
by Deon Smith
Mon May 19, 2014 7:09 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is this dark Violet?
Replies: 26
Views: 10199

Re: What is this dark Violet?

Stefan I am open-minded and gathering data, would like to see these subjects :?: :roll:
by Deon Smith
Sun May 18, 2014 2:10 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is this dark Violet?
Replies: 26
Views: 10199

Re: What is this dark Violet?

Concerning the richness of color in the offspring dp's... the blue isnt a Deep. the green bird reminds me of the statement made by Chris Whipps concerning the brightness of the saddleback ... prompting the suggestion that it is a 'different parblue'. Is the richness of color manifested in dps a res...
by Deon Smith
Sat May 17, 2014 10:54 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is this dark Violet?
Replies: 26
Views: 10199

Re: What is this dark Violet?

William Stobart reminded me of the image below, taken 2 years ago, of the same hen on the introductory image on the left, together with her sister and thus from the same gene-pool mix. There is a clear colour difference, with the one on the right darker, more matt, lacking the gloss of the one left,...
by Deon Smith
Sat May 17, 2014 10:10 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is this dark Violet?
Replies: 26
Views: 10199

Re: What is this dark Violet?

When I visited Hans in the early 2000's I was impressed with the extreme level of darkness his Darkgreens and Cobalts display. At the time the deep factor had not been identified but I guess it must have ridden along when he (unknowingly) imported the Dark Factor. But some of these dark birds had an...
by Deon Smith
Sat May 17, 2014 7:29 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is this dark Violet?
Replies: 26
Views: 10199

Re: What is this dark Violet?

Johan The youngster is a new acquisition from Hans Meyer's collection, I acquired it to try and strengthen my own gene pool's melanistic factor and deep gene. On close observation, she appears to have a violet sheen to the body but with cobalt-like wings, I cannot capture this. Lee Here is a recent ...
by Deon Smith
Fri May 16, 2014 11:56 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is this dark Violet?
Replies: 26
Views: 10199

Re: What is this dark Violet?

Guys Especially the Green juvenile hen has evolved spectacularly with an uncanny bright yellow, much more than I have ever seen in a green series DP, she is only 6 mnths old now. I cannot find a scientific explanation amongst the structural colours. This is a cellphone photo. Deon Violetgreen DP.jpg
by Deon Smith
Fri May 16, 2014 11:47 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is this dark Violet?
Replies: 26
Views: 10199

Re: What is this dark Violet?

Thanks Stefan.

In a pairing to a Green DP/blue, she mothered a magnificent clutch of youngsters. Would the Blue be suggestive of a Deep Blue DP?
2013-11-17 16.23.46 Nest from very bright dark Violet.jpg
by Deon Smith
Fri May 16, 2014 1:13 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What is this dark Violet?
Replies: 26
Views: 10199

What is this dark Violet?

Hi guys I want to share this image with you and invite opinions on the genotype of the 3 year old. She cannot be DF Violet. Does Violet Deep (Cobalt) really produce such as rich, intense colour Please view the image below. On the right is a 2013 Cobalt Violet hen, and the left shows her aunt of 3 ye...
by Deon Smith
Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:10 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Harlequins
Replies: 25
Views: 7901

Re: Harlequins

This is a most stunning bird. Any guesses as to its genotype?

Deon Smith
by Deon Smith
Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:07 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Harlequins
Replies: 25
Views: 7901

Re: Harlequins

The 4th juvenile is a combo Violetgreen and Deep and or Dark

The mother:
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by Deon Smith
Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:12 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Replies: 95
Views: 67312

Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence

Could we deduce from above that Homozygous Parblues won't vary in their phenotype?[/quote] The Parblues used to be quite variant in parblue expression even the homozygous ones. But there has been quite a development with the Parblues in S.A. at least; the modern ones getting greener and more stable...
by Deon Smith
Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:06 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Harlequins
Replies: 25
Views: 7901

Re: Harlequins

Recio I believe its good to give people time to consider what they see and try to work out its genotype. This nest was bred from a Green Harlequin but possibly Violetgreen cock. It is not easy to identify a Violetgreen Harlequin due to the general dilution as you will see on the images, even a Blue ...
by Deon Smith
Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:29 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Replies: 95
Views: 67312

Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence

Recio, the younsters are EmeraldTurquoise Opaline hens on the outsides, 2nd juvenile EmeraldBlue/opaline cock, and the third one from the left EmeraldBlue Opaline hen. The 100KB limitation on posting size cause loss of definition, so the following high resolution downloads are worthwhile. The last i...
by Deon Smith
Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:05 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Replies: 95
Views: 67312

Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence

Father a TurqBlue Opaline on the left, the mother Emerald Blue or Emerald on the far right
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by Deon Smith
Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:55 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Replies: 95
Views: 67312

Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence

Emerald TurquoiseBlue Opaline
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by Deon Smith
Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:52 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Replies: 95
Views: 67312

Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence

Emerald Blue Opaline
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by Deon Smith
Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:46 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Replies: 95
Views: 67312

Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence

I have been away from the forum for a while and must surely have missed a lot. There are a couple of aspects about the Emerald Question I want to give my view. The sayings about blue series and green series: If we stick to the general consensus that Emerald is a recessive allele of the blue locus, t...
by Deon Smith
Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:52 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Replies: 95
Views: 67312

Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence

Ring0Neck Please ask Aaron for an image of the green bird that bred the Violet Emerald. Please ask him about the breeding history, what was the green parent's parents, what else were bred from the original Emerald pairing, and what were bred from the Green bird. Gratz It is very easy and quick to id...
by Deon Smith
Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:44 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Harlequins
Replies: 25
Views: 7901

Re: Harlequins

I am struggling with the 100KB limitation, Stefan how do you insucceed 200KB sized images?
2013-11-17 16.22.45.jpg
by Deon Smith
Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:50 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Replies: 95
Views: 67312

Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence

Vic the exact date or time period of its first appearance might be invaluable to assist, my info states that Emerald did not enter Oz at the same time as Harlequin and Opaline

Deon Smith
by Deon Smith
Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:28 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Replies: 95
Views: 67312

Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence

Recio, note that the last 2 images are of a Blue Emerald Opaline.

Deon
by Deon Smith
Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:26 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Replies: 95
Views: 67312

Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence

0018 Dorsal view
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0025 Ventral view
by Deon Smith
Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:11 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Replies: 95
Views: 67312

Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence

Attached a view of the ventral surface's fluorescence. Due to KB restrictions I will stay with this.
by Deon Smith
Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:24 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Replies: 95
Views: 67312

Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence

Sorry about that. Emerald capturing on photos is not easy due to colour distortion, especially by the action of modern digital cameras. Black and white backgrounds causes a lot of colour distortion, blue seems better but outside, natural white light in bright shade seems to be best. I am however exp...
by Deon Smith
Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:38 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald Green Fluorescence
Replies: 95
Views: 67312

Re: Emerald Green Fluorescence

Photographing Emeralds is not an easy task, as background colour plays a major modifying role with the modern digital cameras. Black and White
by Deon Smith
Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:37 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Harlequins
Replies: 25
Views: 7901

Harlequins

A nest of youngsters, soothing to the eye :)

Deon Smith
by Deon Smith
Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:09 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep and Emerald
Replies: 239
Views: 56154

Re: Deep and Emerald

Lee said: Deon based on Madas statement that the ground color is "a step" darker your suggestion appears contradictory. my experience with misty is that this mutation lightens green and blue I don't think we can describe this mutation in conventional terms of paleness or darkness, as iride...
by Deon Smith
Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:50 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep and Emerald
Replies: 239
Views: 56154

Re: Deep and Emerald

This specific picture was taken from the Web.

Deon
by Deon Smith
Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:08 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep and Emerald
Replies: 239
Views: 56154

Re: Deep and Emerald

My idea of a Khaki TurqBlue comes from life itself.

I'll get an image tomorrow.

Deon
by Deon Smith
Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:28 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep and Emerald
Replies: 239
Views: 56154

Re: Deep and Emerald

Madas

Could your bird be a SF Khaki Parblue?

Deon
by Deon Smith
Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:21 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: New book
Replies: 18
Views: 3877

Re: New book

Recio and other guys The sentence that Recio highlighted came from the very first Genetics-Made-Easy from 1997, it was taken from a website somewhere. Whether it was based on microscopy, peer-reviewed, or whether assumed, remains the question. At the time the only well-known structural mutation was ...
by Deon Smith
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:37 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: New book
Replies: 18
Views: 3877

Re: New book

Yes guys, its finally done, I even had to make some latter-days adaptations and added many quality pics,- 170 pages 197 pictures.

I tried my best - Emerald, Dom Pied, Saddleback and all.

Hope you like it and find something there.

Deon Smith
by Deon Smith
Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:20 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Olive ? Violet
Replies: 6
Views: 2674

Re: Olive ? Violet

Still struggling to upload images, but I will post it to Skydrive and try from there.
Otherwise I must send 10 postings.

Deon
by Deon Smith
Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:05 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Olive ? Violet
Replies: 6
Views: 2674

Re: Olive ? Violet

Sorry I get a note that the quota has been reached for attachments, but its only 145KB.

Have contacted Madas.

Deon
by Deon Smith
Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:24 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Olive ? Violet
Replies: 6
Views: 2674

Olive ? Violet

Hi guys, Deon Smith from S.A.

Comments on this Olive. Do you think there is Violet in it as well?

It was bred from a Darkgreen Violetgreen/ADM/blue X Darkgreen ADM/blue

Deon
by Deon Smith
Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:54 am
Forum: Introduce Yourself!
Topic: Introduction
Replies: 1
Views: 697

Introduction

Hi guys I want to introduce myself as a avicultural hobbyist in South Africa, breeding Amazon Parrots, Golden Parrots, Ringneck mutations with special interest in the genetics involved in what we see and why, trying to understand mutations and following specific breeding programs to reach an evidenc...