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Dad and baby are both violet turquoise

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Looks cobalt

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Hi all, I also have both young and old pairs courting, feeding and mating, but haven't put any nestboxes in as yet, will only be putting my nestboxes in during this week

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Here are 2 green babies I bred, both nestmates, have a look at the following pics and look at the variation in colour especially in the tail feathers and tell me what you think, would you call both birds normal green or is one different to the other http://s20.postimg.org/d2m1e9x65/IMG_20140307_0015...

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Tried google translate, it doesn't do a good job

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No, but u know the saying, "What you don't use, you lose", and I done grade 12 in 1995, so that was a long time ago

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Hi Peter, thanks for the reply, also got that email, but my Afrikaans is not good, can you please translate for me and others that did Afrikaans as a second language at school

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Hello all, does anyone know what's the latest news on this issue?

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Hi Kappa, sorry, I don't have another green hen to put under UV light as I recently sold 4 pairs of greens that I had to make way for better mutations, I kept this green hen with a plain green cock cos she looked different from other green hens, would like to see from others what an adult normal gre...

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Hi Kappa, thanks for the reply, I have a green hen, that I'm still trying to figure out what she is cos she doesn't look like a normal green, here is a pic of her right wing under UV light, tell me what you think

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Hi Kappa, with the pic of your 2 chicks, deep green and green respectively, does a green bird show flourescence under uv light and if so, how much compared to a deep green?

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Most certainly in

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Hello, here are 2 pics that Sanzaf wanted me to upload

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Yup its a SF Turq

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Definitely not a "Schoemann" its from a local breeder here in Wartburg in Pietermaritzburg, managed to get his contact details and phoned him, the parents are as follows

Cobalt Cock x Blue Turquoise Dominant Edge Hen

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Hi Madas, That's what I got the bird as, but never questioned if the turquoise was SF or DF. Haven't seen the parents as the bird was obtained from a fellow breeder who didn't breed this bird, but the details on the ring tell me who it belongs to, so now I have to try and get some contact details of...

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Ok before I tell you what I bought this bird as let me upload one more pic and see what you think, don't worry about the bird on the perch as that is another mystery, here is the pic of the bird in question on the wire next to a Blue Turquoise CHWT hen http://s20.postimg.org/fkdvfmxwt/IMG_20140304_0...

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Hello, what were the parents of the babies that you bought?

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Here is 2 pics of a bird I bought recently.

First up a pic of the back

And lastly a pic of the front to make your guess a little easier

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Ok kewl, does anyone have a pic of an opaline dilute, will like to see what it looks like

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Hello, personally I wouldn't combine dilute with cleartail, as it will look similar to a pallidino which is much cheaper to purchase, same goes for clearhead and dilute also not a good combination, although I would like to see what an opaline dilute looks like, simply because I'm a person that likes...

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Count me in as well

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Hi yup its a creamino

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Violet Blue Cinnamon?

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Here's some pics of a blue turq, is the chest/bellies similar to what you looking at in the blue male and young blue bird http://s20.postimg.org/tlsm9fv3h/IMG_20140211_00100.jpg http://s20.postimg.org/4h1lw0vn1/IMG_20140211_00101.jpg http://s20.postimg.org/pf7ru3vhp/IMG_20140211_00102.jpg Thanks Lus...

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Well I will go with -----?

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A parblue that I bred in 2013 breeding season from 2 green parents, also getting a saddleback pattern

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Hi guys thanks for the reply, I also believe that the reference bird could be a grey turquoise pallidino as when I pulled it for handrearing and compared it to a lutino baby about the same age that I was handrearing at the time, I found that it had a more plum(darker red) coloured eyes as compared t...

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Hi Sheyd, thanks for the reply, I'm of the opinion that the light coloured feet point towards a mutation that the bird maybe split to, but not sure which. Hi Johan, the parents of the reference bird is as follows Cock bird is a Grey which I purchased from Carmen, bred from a Grey(df)blue cock to an ...

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Hi Recio, parents of the greygreen bird with light feet with light nails is a Green Male(which according to the breeder was bred from a DF Turquoise male to a Blue Turquiose female) paired to a Grey Lacewing Female(bred from either a Blue lacewing male to a Grey lacewing female or a Grey lacewing ma...

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Hi all, sorry I have been away for a while, been busy and not been able to post much, but have been on a few times to read a little I have a question for you guys, at what age is one certain of what the colour of a young birds feet will be, can you tell from day 1 in the nestbox if a baby will have ...

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Hi all here is an update for this week Pair 1 - Blue Pallid hen still feeding all 5 chicks well, put closed band rings on the 3 bigger chicks, will have to wait for the 2 smaller ones to grow before I can put rings on them http://s20.postimg.org/4lp6ukl2l/Pietermaritzburg_20131002_01351.jpg Pair 2 -...

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Hello Skye, that could be a possiblity, but on that note, all my pairs get the same type of food on a daily basis, and this is the only pair that has been affected, so not sure what it could be, the parents of the babies in pair 2 are fine, and found them mating several times after taking out the ba...

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Hello all, sorry for the late update for this week, been busy. Pics were taken today Pair 1 - Blue Pallid hen now has a total of 5 chicks, 2 of her own and 3 that she is fostering for Pair 5, feeding well. http://s20.postimg.org/cwf4wrp2l/Pietermaritzburg_20130927_01342.jpg Pair 2 - Some sad news, w...

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Ah okay, how old do you think they would be big enough to ring them? From my experience, any where between 10 and 14 days old, if its your first time I would suggest to start ringing at 10 daysand check daily, and if the ring falls off, which most times it does then put it back on. I personally pre...

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Tabaneske wrote:Why do you put rings on the babies?

Hi Tabaneske

I ring babies for identification purposes

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Hi Johan, yes I do ring all my chicks, but they are currently to small to have leg rings put on according to their size, if I do put them on now, they will just fall off, so I'm waiting a while for them to grow a little more, the 2 that I have taken off for handrearing, I have already rung the bigge...

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Hi all here is an update for this week. Pair 1 - Blue Pallid hen now has 4 chicks and 1 more fertile egg left to hatch, and to my surprise although she has a stroke, she is feeding them well http://s20.postimg.org/vv48k2dnx/Pietermaritzburg_20130917_01327.jpg Pair 2 - Blue Turquoise Pallid hen is fe...

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Hi all, sorry once again for another late update, that was due for Monday 9 September 2013. Will try to be punctual on future updates. Pics were taken on Tuesday 10 September 2013 but didn't have time to upload them but here goes the update for this week Pair 1 - Blue Pallid hen is now sitting on 5 ...

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Hi all the update for this week was supposed to be done on Monday, took out the pics on monday but didn't have a chance to upload them to post them here due to work. Sorry for the late update but her goes Pair 1 - Blue Pallid hen is now on 4 eggs, 2 fertile and 2 clear, notice that one of the clear ...

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Ringo I have never believed the theory of the existence of male Pallidinos only. according to my understanding the pallidino is a pallid diluted and approaching the lutino in hue. I have a pallid hen that does just that and I bred this one myself. :?: Hi Molussus, one way to test ur theory, is to p...

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Thanks Sheyd, can't wait for more to hatch

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Hi Thirdy, I haven't lost any chicks from snakes eating them, but thanks for the info

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Hi all here is an update for the week Pair 1 - Blue Pallid hen has started laying and is on 3 eggs, candled them and all 3 are showing clear at the moment, will check them again next week http://s20.postimg.org/60f8fei7h/Pietermaritzburg_20130826_01288.jpg Pair 2 - Blue Turquoise Pallid hen is still...

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Hi all, I managed to get batteries for my torch yesterday and candled eggs for the following pairs Pair 2 with 4 eggs, all 4 eggs look to be fertile, will confirm again next week, as in some eggs veins seem very faint Pair 5 with 4 eggs, 3 are fertile and 1 is infertile, so not sure if the infertile...

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Thanks Molossus, can't wait to get my first chicks

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Hi Molossus, I also noticed that the egg on the extreme right looks empty, and the other 3 looks good, will confirm once I get batteries for my torch, what do you think about the 4 eggs for Pair 2

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Hi all here is my update for this week, unfortunately was not able to candle any eggs, as I took out my penlight torch from the box and found that the batteries were dead, so will buy some batteries during this week and candle on my next check Pair 2 - Blue Turquiose Pallid hen is now sitting on 4 e...

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Hi all, thank you for the replies, but I must point out that the camera on my mobile phone is only 5mp and doesn't take out good pics As Carmen has shared her photos of the albino hen, you can see how much difference there is in quality of pics, will take out better pics of the hen with my digital c...

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Hi, my guess is that your male is split ino and the babies you bred could be hens and be creaminos or could be males and be turquoise pallidinos 1.0 grey(sf) blue /ino x 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid % from all 1.0 12.5% 1.0 grey(sf) blue pallidIno 12.5% 1.0 blue pallidIno 12.5% 1.0 grey(sf) tur...

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Hi Molossus, thanks for informing me, reminds me to have them candled, I haven't been counting the days since they were first laid, will candle them next time I check and let you know if they are fertile

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Hi all, as promised here is my update for this week First of some sad news, on friday, I was feeding and found that my mature lutino/ blue hen from pair 8 wasn't coming out of her nestbox, so I decided to inspect and found her lying dead with 1 egg beside her, on inspection of her I noticed her vent...

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Hi all just a quick update on my birds Firstly I have purchased a 2011 green hen for my handreared greygreen male to make up my 10th pair for this season http://s20.postimg.org/ykwiwvj59/Pietermaritzburg_20130805_01236.jpg Also purchased a 2012 lutino/blue female for the 2012 pallidino male that I g...

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Hi all, as promised I have taken some pics of the green pair, but weather here is cloudy this morning, so not the best pics. You will notice the difference in shading from the male to female, take note of the brown sheen on the hen and also her lighter overall colour, also look at her flights and ma...

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Hi Recio, not that I know of, why do you ask if she is split?

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Hi all, just curious to know if my green hen is a normal widltype green or a misty green. http://s20.postimg.org/rxoooy1t9/Pietermaritzburg_20130708_01220.jpg I have always been curious as to why her shading of green is different to the cockbird and to other green hens, will take out better pics tom...

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Hi Madas, my error, should have read Terry Martins book, and not Terry Martins new book.

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Hi Madas, here is the link to Terry Martins Book for the website given by Trabots

http://www.birdkeeper.com.au/bird-books ... hard-cover

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Hi what I would like to know is how did PBFD originate, what was the root cause of this virus and can a breeder with a flock that is known to be free from this virus for years, suddenly find that his birds have this disease without buying any birds from other breeders. And if so how would one explai...

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Hi Ben, never notice that, now that you mentioned it and have had another look at the pic, the cock looks like a parblue

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Hi all here are the pics of the parents and youngsters of the second pair sent to me by SMbabe First is a pic of both youngsters http://s20.postimg.org/m0yldcotp/2013_07_01_18.jpg Next is a pic of one of the youngsters called "Buster" http://s20.postimg.org/b2nbv608d/buster.jpg This is a pic of the ...

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Hi, picked up my copy of Bastiaans Second Book, "Asiatic Parrots and their mutations" today. It was a gift from my wife for me qualifying as a professional nurse. Thanks to my wife for the best gift, love you lots, mwah and thanks to Leoni De La Port, who posted the book on friday and I picked up to...

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Hi sheyd will definitely look to see if I have any pics on my day off this friday and place them here As promised here are pics of my breeding pairs Pair 1 - Blue cock x Blue Pallid hen http://s20.postimg.org/7765ndcx9/Pietermaritzburg_20130708_01213.jpg Pair 2 - Grey/ino cock x Blue turquoise palli...

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Hi, yes for the first pair, more info is need and yes for the second pair, the father has to be split to cinnamon to produce cinnamon babies as cinnamon is a sex-linked mutation I don't think you will be able to place pics at this time as you are still a new member, email them to me at lushenchetty1...

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Hi to reply to the first pairing, lime is the old name for lacewing which is now called pallid, to enter a DF turquoise pallid, you must select turquoise and pallid under visual for the hen 1.0 ino x 0.1 turquoise(parblue) pallid % from all 1.0 100.0% 1.0 pallidIno /turquoise(parblue) % from all 0.1...

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Hi, just want to add on the head shape of ringnecks, on looking at my birds, I have noticed that the females tend to have a flattened section just after the nare, whilst the males have a more rounded head, this is from looking at the bird from the side

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Hi Ben, thanks for the clarification

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Hi Eshana, it looks like all 3 babies turned out to be males, I had mines surgically sexed and Carmen also had hers sexed and it was a male, I haven't decided yet what hen to get for him for next season. Will think about that once this years breeding season is over

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Hi Sheyd, that's something that I need clarity on, as I thought that pairing a SL edge male to a normal female will give 50% male babies with edge mutation and 50% female babies with edge mutation with the other 50% of each gender not carrying the edge mutation And when pairing a normal cock to an s...

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Hi Sheyd, I don't think one can visually see the difference between a SL Edge Ino and a plain Ino as I think Ino would mask the Edge mutation, and the young ino birds would have to be test mated to find out if they are carrying the Edge mutation, but I could be wrong

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Hi Sheyd unfortunately I won't be able to get pics of the lutino hen as I never take contact details for the buyer and he is from out of town, will check if I still have pics of her after she was weaned and if I find 1 I will post it here I decided to give the greygreen male from pair 5 a rest for t...

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Hi Peter, what size cages are those birds in the pic housed in?, also with a single mesh between cages, wouldn't there be fighting and biting of toes and toe nails, and lastly what's the size of the nestbox on that cage? Ok on looking again at the pic, it looks like there is a double mesh between th...

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Hi Ush, what it would mean is the blue cock is split ino, and that's why you got a lutino baby. This is the possible results from your pairing 1.0 blue /ino x 0.1 ino % from all 1.0 50.0% 1.0 green /blue ino 50.0% 1.0 ino /blue % from all 0.1 50.0% 0.1 ino /blue 50.0% 0.1 green /blue So as you can s...

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Hi all just a quick update, when I got home yesterday after work and was feeding, I found that my handreared greygreen cock from pair 5 had been bitten on his head by the hen, I immediately remove her, but fortunately his injuries are not bad, I'm sure he will be ok. It upsets my pairings for this s...

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Hi SCB, unfortunately I won't be selling any babies from Pair 3, but will try and see if I can get you a dominant edge cinnamon hen from another breeder, depending what he breeds this season

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Hello, does anyone have picks of Opaline SL Dominant Edge birds, both young and mature in both genders

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Hello, so how would one know if they have an indigo instead of a lightly turquoise bird, what are the identitying features from pin feathers in the nest to a mature bird that has past the 27 month moult?

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Wow that's early, I noticed about 4 of my hens in boxes, but haven't inspected, looks like we going to have an early season this year

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Hi all, would like to give you all some idea to my pairings for this season, although they could change if I find pairs being incompatible. Will take out photos of each pairing and place them on at a later stage So here goes, where you see UGH, it would mean that I don't have genetic history of thes...

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Hi Johan, y does the bird in the second pic that you posted have the primary flight feathers so far apart from each other and why do they look as if they are drooping?

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Hi all just wanted to know what to look for in a progressive pied, and is this type of pied mutation dominant or recessive, also are babies that turn out to be progressive pieds born with any pied markings or none at all?

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Hi looks like a normal blue ringneck, pics look as though you have used a flash when taking them.

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Hi Willy, as Johan said its better to do you pairings early if you want to swop your hens around, which is exactly what I have done, but I have found that in the past few weeks, I had a male start to chase a female, and had to swop her with another hen, and also had 2 hens chasing males and had to m...

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Hi all, as promised to Deb I would do a brief journal of my breeding for my 2013 season. Its still early but since I'm still busy setting up, I'm going to use as much time as available, where I can to note down what's happens this year. Before I start, for the newbies here are the links to the breed...

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Hi Deb, I will consider doing a thread with a list of all my pairings for the 2013 breeding season and may even do either a weekly or bi-weekly updates. I cannot promise daily updates due to time constraints, but will try and do my best with as many pics as possible.

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Hi all, I had a chance to speak to the breeder about his pairing and his babies over this weekend, he said that he bought the male as a DF turq blue and the female as a SF turq blue. He paired them together in 2011 and they had 2 clutches, first clutch produce 3 of the green looking babies and secon...

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Hi Recio, will speak to him tonight and try to get more information on what this pair produced in the 2012 season, as the youngsters in question are from the 2011 season, so it will give an idea as to what is happening. Unfortunately due to me putting birds on show at the Royal Show Ground, I will b...

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Hi all thanks for all the replies, will try and get some pics of the youngsters and the father next week, as will be busy at the Royal Show Grounds from today, he sold the mother but will try and track it down for a pic, as I know who he sold it to. Hi Sheyd, I don't think he would confuse the mutat...

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Hi Sheyd, if I had to compare the bird I looked at to Willy's library I would say that it had more green than the bird in pic 6, it basically looks like a normal green bird, and I couldn't understand why 2 blue turq parents can produce this green baby, the only blue that this bird has is on the tail...

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Hi can you guys share pics of Double Factor Blue Turquoise birds in both hens and cocks, I have a friend who paired a blue turquoise cock to a blue turquoise hen and they bred 1 blue turquoise and 3 birds that look like greens, so I suspect they could be DF turquoise but I'm not sure, I would like t...

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Hi Deb, nice to see you back online, I have not been online much due to studying for my final 2 papers which I write on Monday and Wednesday., once those 2 are over I will be able to come online more frequently. I will get more lessons on as soon as I'm free and will continue with breeding of recess...

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I would choose a DF Violet

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Hi received more pics from the breeder, here are pic of the parents of the above youngster. Male is supposed to be a grey misty and hen is green. The breeder would like to know why the grey male has red eyes http://s20.postimg.org/mgri8qkdp/IMG_20130423_WA001.jpg Here is another chick of the youngst...

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Thanks for the reply guys, will let the breeder know

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Hi, a south african breeder ask me to post pics of a bird he bred, here are 2 pics of the bird in question http://s20.postimg.org/jt9ekdact/IMG_20130422_WA000.jpg http://s20.postimg.org/i2vffzz59/IMG_20130414_WA003.jpg So can this bird be considered a spangle, if not what mutation will one call this...

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Hi Ben, with the new pics I now see that it cannot be stress barring?

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Ring0Neck wrote:Does anyone know why i have these markings on the edged violet's tail?
I acquired this bird a couple of months ago.

Stress Barring?

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Just a thought but would a dark grey green also have a bluish sheen to its head and rump, like a cobalt grey would have?

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As promised here are more pics of the hen http://s20.postimage.org/7x0grptbh/cobalt_1.jpg http://s20.postimage.org/nwj4b9pd9/cobalt_2.jpg http://s20.postimage.org/ffjm0ckod/cobalt_3.jpg http://s20.postimage.org/m7a1379nx/cobalt_4.jpg http://s20.postimage.org/lvskqft7x/cobalt_5.jpg Thanks Lushen

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Hi Chocobo, thanks for the reply, the male is a dominant edge blue cinnamon. The hen was hatched from a batch of eggs from foster pairs, so that why I don't know the genetic history of this bird, as the breeder got the eggs from another breeder and use his pairs to hatch out these eggs. Will try and...

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So I guess this would be normal for a cobalt?

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Hi I recently purchased a cobalt hen, but don't have genetic history for this female, wanted to know why she has so much of a greyish wash throught her upper body, and even on close inspection of her tail feathers, I noticed that the right half of the main tail feather is darker than the left half. ...

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Hi just wondering if anyone can post pics of a cobalt dominant edge bird?

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My advice, make keeping and breeding of birds a hobby and let the money be a bonus, that way you won't be dissapointed when things go wrong and you will continue the hobby.

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Hi Molossus, thanks for the reply but I was looking at the difference between a greygreen and a darkgreygreen, not darkgreen.

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Hi would like to know how one would make out visually the difference between a greygreen and a greygreen with 1 dark factor?
How much darker would such a bird be and does anyone have pics with both birds in the same pic for comparison

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Hi, as I said I could be wrong, also initially thought it could be an injury and bloodstained, but not sure.

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Hi Chocobo, I think that it is a blue cinnamon turquoise with something more due to the red patch on the head. If you look closely at the second pic you will notice the greenish tinge on the wings and the fact that there is a red patch on the head instead of a white patch would also point to turquoi...

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Looking at the red patch on the head I would now say its more than just a blue turquoise cinnamon, but you will have to wait to hear what the others have to say

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Hi, I would go with turquoise blue cinnamon
The second pic is very interesting, the bird seems to have a patch of red on its head, very nice

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I will pair to either a cobalt or violet hen

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Hi Molossus, thanks for the pics, the spangle markings on the alexandrine looks similar to spangle markings of a budgerigar, is it possible to achieve similar feather markings on a ringneck and has anyone have pic of ringneck with spangle markings similar to the alexandrine

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Hi MissK, thanks for the website, that will help me to identify what mutations I have

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Hi all would like assistance with identification of 8 budgies I got yesterday, pics are not very clear and couldn't get individual pics as they fly and sit in groups

http://m1109.photobucket.com/albumview/ ... H.jpg.html

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Hi Carmen, they also looked like lovebirds to me, but I was doubting myself as they seem to be in the same cage as the ringnecks

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Hi all, thanks for the replies and thank you Peter for the pic, how old is the ringneck in the pic?

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Hi Lee, I totally agree with you on this subject

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Hi Lee, We are all mutation seekers :twisted: My thougth: 1. Perhaps the patched mutations so far described (Turquoise, Indigo, Saphire?) are homoallelic mutations (mutations of the same point) of the blue gene, so that there is just a question of gradient among them: Gradient inside the feather wi...

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Hi has the Spangle mutation been bred in an indian ringneck and if so does anyone have pics of such a mutation and what to look for to identify a spangle in the indian ringneck

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Very nice opaline specimen Johan, has a huge contrast difference between the head and the body.

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Hi all after a very long break I'm now ready to continue with lesson on the genetic calculator, but before I do I would like to do a recap of all the 6 calculations that we have done so far 1) Green cock x Green hen 2) Green cock x Lutino Hen 3) Green/ino cock x Lutino hen 4) Green/ino cock x Green ...

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Hi MissK, below is a website with information on genetics http://saudsaviary.blogspot.com/p/genetics-tutorial.html?m=1 Also read the following thread I started, I'm gonna be continuing with lessons as I can now see that it will help newbies to understand genetics http://www.indianringneck.com/forum/...

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Hi what are the parents of your blue hen? Its not possible for a blue indian ringneck to be split to grey as grey is a dominant mutation Lutino cock to a blue hen will result in the following chicks 1.0 ino x 0.1 blue % from all 1.0 100.0% 1.0 green /blue ino % from all 0.1 100.0% 0.1 ino /blue All ...

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Hi, go for 1.6mm thick wire welded mesh that has 25.4mm x 12.7mm rectangular holes

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And don't forget us Blackberry users?

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Hi guys don't shoot the messenger, just making you guys aware of the articles online

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Here is a piece of another article found on the subject "Alexandrine Parakeets seem to be mainly sold for their vibrant colors and there are many mutations available. These derived mutations have been a source of controversy as they were achieved through hybrid breeding with the Indian Ringneck. Man...

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Hi I would just like to post a piece of an article which relates to this topic, if you would like to read the complete article it can be found here http://www.indianringneck.com/alexandrine/ So here is the portion that I have copied and pasted Alexandrines Mutations "Alexandrines do not come in real...

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Hi Jim, unfortunately I cannot comment on the calculator on Madas website, as I have never used his calculator, simply because all my internet usage is via my Blackberry mobile phone as I don't have internet for my home pc. With Madas calculator, you would need a pc to use it as my phone won't be ab...

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Hi firstly you will have to establish if your male is split to turquoise as with his parents genetics he could be anyone of the 4 possible birds in the results below 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue /cinnamon cleartail x 0.1 green cleartail % from all 1.0 12.5% 1.0 green cleartail /turquoise(parblue) ci...

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I am very interested has anybody bred the deep bird in any other colour? I have personally bred Deep IndigoBlue, Deep Pallid, Deep Pallid IndigoBlue, Deep EmeraldBlue, Deep TurquoiseBlue, Deep Violet Blue, DF Deep TurquoiseBlue. Ron has bred Deep Cinnamon Blue, Deep Dark Blue, Deep Dark TurquoiseBl...

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Hi RingONeck, thanks for the reply. If I were to mate him to say a turquiose blue pallid, these would be the results 1.0 pallidIno x 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid % from all 1.0 25.0% 1.0 pallidIno /turquoise(parblue) 25.0% 1.0 pallidIno /blue 25.0% 1.0 pallid /turquoise(parblue) 25.0% 1.0 palli...

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Hi all I know that this is going off the topic but here are some of the combinations I had in terms of breeding with the pallidIno male First to pair him to a green hen 1.0 pallidIno x 0.1 green % from all 1.0 50.0% 1.0 green /ino 50.0% 1.0 green /pallid % from all 0.1 50.0% 0.1 ino 50.0% 0.1 pallid...

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Hi for your pairings here are the results Olive YHYT Male + Yellow Ringneck Female 1.0 DD green cleartail x 0.1 ino % from all 1.0 100.0% 1.0 D green /ino cleartail % from all 0.1 100.0% 0.1 D green /cleartail From this pairing you will get all darkgreen chicks with males split for both ino and clea...

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Thanks Yatish and Ringoneck for the replies, can't wait for this guy to mature, what would be the most suitable breeding partner for a pallidino cock? I do have a few combinations in mind but would like to hear what others would pair to such a bird.

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Hi all would it be correct in assuming that Deep is then a structural mutation and would act in the same way that Violet and Grey acts on both Green and Blue series birds. What I mean by this is that in Blue Series we get Violet(sf)Blue = Violet Blue Grey(sf)Blue = Grey Deep(sf)Blue = Deep Blue So i...

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Hi Chocobo, I would expect a pallidino to have eyes similar to that of an albino or lutino and not like that of a pallid. Would like to hear comments from others that have pallidino mutation in green and other colours

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Hi the results for that pairing are as follows 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid x 0.1 ino % from all 1.0 50.0% 1.0 pallidIno /turquoise(parblue) 50.0% 1.0 pallidIno /blue % from all 0.1 50.0% 0.1 pallid /turquoise(parblue) 50.0% 0.1 pallid /blue You will get green pallidino males split either for...

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Hi on my first calculation I forgot to add the cinnamon and pallid splits for the cock bird, so that would have caused all the confusion, your entry is now correct and here are the results 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue /cinnamon-pallid x 0.1 D turquoise(parblue)Blue violet(sf) % from all 1.0 0.026% 1.0...

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Hi Farza the reason that you are getting all turquoise chicks in your calculations, is because once again you are entering the birds wrong in the calculator. When entered correctly it will show Turquoise(parblue)Blue And not Turquoise(parblue) So in order to enter blue turquoise correctly you will n...

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Hi Ringoneck, thanks for the reply. The question is not about what the dad is as I will take the dad as a pallid unless he proves otherwise. The question is why my chick which is a male and is a pallidIno has "Very dark red eyes with a bluish iris" instead of "Red eyes with a yellowish iris"? Thanks...

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Hi all just a simple question but it has me baffled according to Zahir Rana's website this is description of what a pallidino supposed to look like Pallid-ino (Combination of Pallid and Ino) Inheritance: Combination of sex-linked recessive Pallid and sex-linked recessive Ino. Description Body: As Lu...

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Hi 19266022, not really, ringnecks are not that loud, I did have conures which where quiet vocal, but have now sold all my conures and bought some lovebirds, so its quietened down a bit So this is just what I have come up with for my planned pairings for the 2013 season in about 6 months time, nothi...

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Hi Chocobo, my mistake as I never read your initial post properly so never saw the parents genetics, so for that pairing these are the results 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue ino x 0.1 grey(sf) blue pallid % from all 1.0 25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blue pallidIno <--- could be this chick 25.0% 1.0 blue pallidIno ...

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Hi all, nothing is wrong with the calculator, as pointed out by Trabots the initial calculation was entered wrong as the hen was entered as a mauve violet turquoise insteade of a cobalt violet turquoise. Second mistake that was made was that both birds were entered as turquoise(parblue) instead of t...

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Hi you will get the following babies from that pairing

1.0 pallid
x 0.1 blue ino
% from all 1.0
100.0% 1.0 pallidIno /blue
% from all 0.1
100.0% 0.1 pallid /blue

All males will be green pallidIno split blue and all females will be green pallid split blue

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Lushen1600

Hi Chocobo in order to answer your question I first need to understand what have you seen, is it

1.0 grey(sf) pallidIno /turquoise(parblue)

If so then this would according to my understanding be a greygreen pallidino split turquoise

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Lushen

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Ok thanks Johan, so that means my pairing of a Dominant edge blue cinnamon if he is sf edge to a wildtype hen will give me 1.0 100% wildtype and 0.1 100% sf edge.

So what if he is df edge?

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Hi Deb I acquired both the green birds from Pair 4 and Pair 6 as well as the blue cinnamon hen from Pair 6 from one breeder, he purchased the blue cinnamon hen from a local petstore which was handreared and both the green were purchased from another breeder, I put the green seperately as I did not k...

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Hi guys, sorry for not posting in this thread as I was busy studying for my papers which are now over. I would like to thank Johan for giving you guys some work to do while I was studying and would like for him and others to put up more puzzles if you guys like to keep the newbies busy. I will put u...

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Hi guys sorry about not updating this thread, studying for my exams had me busy and now that it is over I can once again concentrate on my ringneck breeding, I do have pics of the 2 chicks, but am not going to put all of them online but what I will do is take out a few more recent pics of the albino...

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Hi also forgot to mention by looking at the colour of the feet and nails of the parents, I would also think that there is a possibility of visual cinnamon in the parents. That would explain the grey wash on these birds

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Hi Johan, mistake on my side, that's what happens when a newbie like me tries to calculate outcomes in my head without using the calculator, now on double checking with the calculator I find that you are correct, there is a percentage of normal blue chicks without the dominant edge in both hens and ...

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Hi are the toe nails black or light grey?

If black, then its a blue, if light grey then its a blue cinnamon

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Hi if you are talking about albino masking violet blue male and a blue turquoise hen, then the results will be as follows 1.0 blue violet(sf) ino x 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue % from all 1.0 25.0% 1.0 blue /ino 25.0% 1.0 blue violet(sf) /ino 25.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue /ino 25.0% 1.0 turquoise(p...

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Hi seeing that you have 8 males and 6 females and working with the birds you have, I would pair them as follows 1) Grey/ino Cock x Green Pallid Hen 2) DF TurqBlue Cock x Silver Hen 3) SF TurqBlue Cock x Blue Hen 4) Silver Cock x DF TurqBlue Hen 5) Green Pallid Cock x Lutino Hen 6) Blue Cinnamon Cock...

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Hi, I don't think both the parents are dominant edge, and I think the lighting in certain photographs is making the flights look like that of a dominant edge, but I could be wrong, if both the parent were visual dominant edge, then the blue chick should also be visual dominant edge which is not bein...

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Hi, if I remember correctly one noticeble difference between turquoise blue and indigo blue is the colour of the neck ring

Turquoise blue has black, white and red in the neck ring
Indigo blue has only black and white on the neck ring, no red

Hope this helps

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Hi all sorry I haven't been online for a while, will continue with lessons soon Hi Deb, yes you are correct the parents are on both sides and the two in the centre are the chicks, I'm not saying anymore as I don't want to spoil the fun. You will have to work this one out and wait for Johan to give y...

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McmillanBirds wrote:(sorry if I am sticking my nose in here Lushen )

Carmen

Hi Carmen, you not sticking your nose in here, just wanting to help a forum member, and that's fine with me

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Hi Willow your calculation is correct. As for your question ino or blue ino will mask edge dilution so the babies will look like normal Lutino and normal albino and will have to be test mated to preferably normal green or normal blue birds which are not carrying any splits to determine if these bird...

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Hi all, in the next lesson as I have said in a previous lesson our next mating will be a "Lutino cock" to a "Lutino hen" So by now we already know how to enter these into the calculator, so once entered hit the "Generate" button and your results should be as follows http://imageshack.us/a/img824/231...

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Hi all, while I still have some free time let's go onto the next lesson, if you haven't already tried to work with the 2 matings that I left as homework on the last lesson, then I would suggest that you go back and try to work them out first before reading this to see if your results match mine So w...

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Hi Deb, studies are going fine, hope you are well, haven't had a chance to come online for a while, so while I had the chance, I thought I would do another lesson.

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Hi all here is the next lesson, thanks for being so patient, currently busy with studies so I decided to have a break a post another lesson For this lesson, its going to be another simple calculation, we going to mate a "Green/ino cock" to a "Green hen" Once again excuse this boring lesson and some ...

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Hi all here is the update for Monday 12/11/2012

Pair 3 - Day 46

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Hi all here is the update for Sunday 11/11/2012

Pair 3 - Day 45

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Hi all here is the update for Saturday 10/11/2012

Pair 3 - Day 44

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Hi all here is the update for Friday 09/11/2012

Pair 3 - Day 43

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Hi all here is the update for Thursday 08/11/2012

Pair 3 - Day 42

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Hi all here is the update for Wednesday 07/11/2012 Pair 3 - Day 41 http://imageshack.us/a/img138/2190/pietermaritzburg2012110.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img69/2190/pietermaritzburg2012110.jpg Sorry for the late updates, currently in college studying for my practical exam on thursday and 2 theoretica...

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Hi all here is todays update

Pair 3 - Day 40

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Hi all here is the update for Monday 05/11/2012

Pair 3 - Day 39

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Hi all here is the update for Sunday 04/11/2012

Pair 3 - Day 38

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Hi all, just want to do a quick summary for round one of my breeding season, so that all can have an idea of what I have encountered Total number of Pairs - 7 Total number of Eggs laid - 30 Dissappeared/eaten eggs - 1 Eggs found out of nestbox cracked - 2 Infertile eggs - 12 Fertile eggs - 15 Dead i...

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Hi I'm new to the site today and have just read your entire post and it's very helpful and I love looking through your photos :) Thanks Mel Hi Milly, I'm glad that you have joined this forum, there is a lot that you can learn from the experienced guys and gals on here, just like I learn every day f...

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Hi all here is the update for Saturday 03/11/2012

Pair 3 - Day 37

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Hi all here is the update for Friday 02/11/2012

Pair 3 - Day 36

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Hi Willowisp, here is a description of what the pallid gene does to a mutation and what to look out for as found on the following website http://home.wanadoo.nl/psittaculaworld/Mutations/P-krameri.htm Pallid Inheritance: Sex-linked recessive. Description Body: Looks somewhat like cinnamon however wi...

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Hi Lushen So sorry about your conure. :cry: I hope she heals quickly. Take care.... Kind Regards Eshana Hi Eshana, I spoke to our club chairmen and he said that my conure is doing a little better, but she is gonna be with him for a while because she is going to take time to recover Thanks Lushen

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Hi all here is the update for Thursday 01/11/2012

Pair 3 - Day 35

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Hi all here is the update for Wednesday 31/10/2012

Pair 3 - Day 34

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Hi all here is the update for Tuesday 30/10/2012

Pair 3 - Day 33

Sorry for the late updates

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Lushen1600

Ok then if its not Violet Mauve,

My second guess would be

Violet Cobalt Grey???

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Violet Mauve?
Not sure if DF or SF, but if I were to guess I would say DF

That's my guess

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Hi all here is today's update Pair 3 - Day 32 http://imageshack.us/a/img191/8545/pietermaritzburg2012102.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img211/8545/pietermaritzburg2012102.jpg Pair 4 - removed the 3 indian ringneck eggs and the 2 maroon bellied conure eggs as they were all infertile Pair 7 - candled the...

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Green ringnecks normally have tail feathers which are yellow underneath Another option for you would be to look for an male albino(white) ringneck and mate it to one of your green hens to achieve the following results 1.0 blue ino x 0.1 green % from all 1.0 100.0% 1.0 green /blue ino % from all 0.1 ...

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Yes they will be green only unless they are carrying any recessive genes from previous generations. You don't need to find a green/blue male to breed greens and blues, you can keep one of the female green/blue chicks and mate it back to the father and as you will see from the calculation below, you ...

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Hi can some explain how would one know how to enter a dark mutation which is either split to blue or turquoise in the genetic calculator which gives 2 options, namely:-

T1
T2

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Hi Rritoch, if all 3 off your green ringnecks are females then from the parents genetics they will be normal green not split to anything, that is if the parents were not carrying any splits. In this case I would say that the father was green and the mother was lutino, as per the calculation below, t...

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Hi all here is todays update Pair 3 - Day 31 Please note the following pics were taken without flash and are very dark, will have to go back to using the flash when I take out pics tomorrow http://imageshack.us/a/img24/9159/img2012102800840.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img266/7308/img2012102800841.jpg...

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Hi all here is the update for Saturday 27/10/2012 Pair 1 - Day 48 Here are some pics of the smallest(4th) chick sent by Carmen on behalf of the buyer http://imageshack.us/a/img822/900/201210272020carmen201.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img443/5299/201210272020carmen202.jpg Pair 3 - Day 30 http://images...

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Hi King Kong, I once asked about why and what to use the x1, x2 for on this forum and from the answer I got, this is how I've accustomed myself to use the calculator, here is a link to that thread http://www.indianringneck.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=15361 As for the T1, T2, that's a good questio...

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Hi all for this next lesson we are going to mate one of the male chicks from the above pairing back to the mother Just to recap the above mating was with a "Green Cock" to a "Lutino Hen" which produced Green/ino male chicks Green female chicks So now we are going to mate one of the "Green/ino" male ...

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Hi SCB 22 Yes those are the 2 chicks I intend keeping and yes I'm leaving them to be parent raised as I want to use them as breeding birds in the future. I do have Pair 7 on 3 eggs but I'm not sure if they are fertile, as both the hen and cock are 1 year old birds. Pair 4 which had 3 eggs were found...

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Hi King Kong, Willowisp & Eshana

Thank you for your patience, I'm currently working on the next lesson in draft mode on my phone and will post once completed

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Hi all here is today's update Pair 3 - Day 29 Here is a pic of them in the nestbox http://imageshack.us/a/img202/5978/img2012102600834.jpg Here is a pic of them in a handrearing box, while I cleaned there nestbox and put clean shavings http://imageshack.us/a/img826/4478/img2012102600835.jpg Here is ...

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Hi all here is the update for Thursday 25/10/2012 Pair 1 - Day 46 Here is some pics of the 1st chick sent by the buyer for today http://imageshack.us/a/img820/1176/img201210250083020alvin.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img5/8370/img201210250083120alvin.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img191/3854/img201210250...

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So what colour does a normal blue look like under those setting on paint.net?

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