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Lushen1600

Hi Johan, thanks for the reply,

So does that mean that grey is not able to completely mask any mutation which is dominant or co-dominant, but has a higher masking effect on incomplete dominant mutations?

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Lushen

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Hi all here is todays update

Pair 3 - Day 27

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Lushen

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Hi Molossus, I wasn't thinking of purchasing such a bird, just saw 2 at a breeders house and wanted to learn more so that I can train my eye to look for identify features of various masked mutations

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Lushen

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Hi Ringo, that is true, taking any grey would be a fruitless exercise, but the 2 birds I've seen were told to be cobalt greys and when I compare them to my birds, visually the look identical to my grey male, so I thought that maybe there was something that I wasn't seeing and just wanted to know wha...

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Hi Lushen From my experience on grey cobalt you see more of the blue or cobalt color on the rump than if it were a normal grey! However this has a very different effect when using the deep blue gene in that the deep has the blue with a different sheen to the rump and flight feathers Regards Zane Hi...

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Hi Ringoneck, thanks for the reply, so if one were to breed a Cobalt Grey Ino, would this bird then look albino and also need to be test mated, also same question applies to a cobalt ino, I'm sure that this bird should also look like an albino and need to be test mated to prove its genetic makeup? T...

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Sorry to go a little of the topic but I have personally seen 2 birds which are supposed to be Cobalt Grey, but my eyes can't see any difference to a normal grey bird, how would one distinguish between the 2 and what am I supposed to look for, or is the only way to find out by test mating the bird Th...

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Hi all sorry that I took so long to start the next lesson, been working long hours and night duty at work, so please excuse me for taking so long to continue with lessons. Before we go to the next lesson, there are some rules that I would like to lay down as we will now see how splits come about, so...

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Hi looking at your last years pairing and what you produced, this will be the possible genetics of last years pair 1.0 grey(sf) blue /ino x 0.1 grey(sf) green /blue % from all 1.0 6.25% 1.0 grey(df) blue /ino 12.5% 1.0 grey(sf) blue /ino 6.25% 1.0 blue /ino 6.25% 1.0 grey(df) green /blue ino 12.5% 1...

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Hi sorry for stirring the pot here and adding more confusion but wanted to know if its possible for the parents to be PallidIno cinnamon/blue Cock Paliid cinnamon/blue Hen So with this the results will be as follows 1.0 pallidIno cinnamon /blue x 0.1 pallid cinnamon /blue % from all 1.0 12.5% 1.0 gr...

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Hi Willowisp, you got the calculation correct but the first chick is not just a green cinnamon, let me explain. Golden Olive is what we in South Africa refer to as Golden Cherry which is actually a greygreen cinnamon. So the first chick is a greygreen cinnamon which will make it a female. Carmen has...

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Hi Willowisp, no stress as I also have typing errors in my posts, and the best way to correct them is once you have posted and realised you made a mistake, click the edit button on the bottom of your post and that will allow you to make the correction and repost. Ok first you mentioned that the cock...

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Hi Willowisp, its good to see you are learning how to use the gencalc, I will get onto my next lesson soon, been abit busy with work, and currently on night duty so didn't have chance to come online for a while. Just like to make one correction if you don't mind, you said that the cock bird is Silve...

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Hi Smick olive is a double dark factor green so the correct calculation would be as follows 1.0 grey(sf) blue x 0.1 DD green % from all 1.0 50.0% 1.0 D grey(sf) green /blue 50.0% 1.0 D green /blue % from all 0.1 50.0% 0.1 D grey(sf) green /blue 50.0% 0.1 D green /blue So the chick will be dark greyg...

Lushen1600

Hi Smick both ino and pallidIno will have red eyes
Pallids are also born with red eyes which get darker with age

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Lushen

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Hi all here is todays update I'm finally back on track with my updates Pair 3 - Day 26 http://imageshack.us/a/img545/5782/img2012102300820.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img201/4615/img2012102300821.jpg So from the pics I can now say that I have 1 lutino chick and 1 albino chick, which means that the pa...

Lushen1600

Hi all here is the update for Monday 22/10/2012.

Pair 1 - Day 43
Here is a pic of the 4th chick sent by Carmen on behalf of the buyer

Pair 3 - Day 25

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Lushen

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Hi all here is the update for Sunday 21/10/2012.

Pair 3 - Day 24

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Lushen

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Hi all here is the update for Saturday 20/10/2012.

Pair 3 - Day 23

Pair 5 - Day 38

The buyer collected this baby, so if she sends me any pics, I will update you guys

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Lushen

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Hi all here is the update for Friday 19/10/2012.

Pair 3 - Day 22

Pair 5 - Day 37

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Hi all here is the update for Thursday 18/10/2012.

Pair 3 - Day 21

Pair 5 - Day 36

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Lushen

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Hi all here is the update for Wednesday 17/10/2012. Pair 3 - Day 20 http://imageshack.us/a/img838/5867/img2012101700801.jpg Pair 5 - Day 35 http://imageshack.us/a/img43/7300/img2012101700798.jpg I forgot to mention that this bird is sold, I decided to sell it as I was made an offer on the baby and t...

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Hi all here is the update for Tuesday 16/10/2012. Pair 1 - Day 37 Here is a pic of the 4th chick that Carmen has now sold http://imageshack.us/a/img825/9729/20121016.jpg Pair 3 - Day 19 http://imageshack.us/a/img534/2015/img2012101600795.jpg Pair 5 - Day 34 Sorry once again I forgot to take a pic of...

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Hi all here is the update for Monday 15/10/2012. Pair 1 - Day 36 Here is a pic of the 4th chick that Carmen has now sold http://imageshack.us/a/img337/403/20121015k.jpg Pair 3 - Day 18 Looking at the pins coming out, it looks to be 1 lutino and 1 albino chick, will know for sure in a weeks time http...

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Hi all here is the update for Sunday 14/10/2012. Pair 1 - Day 35 Here is a pic of the 3rd chick, this baby went to his new home today, so if I get any updated pics from the buyer in the future, I will update you guys http://imageshack.us/a/img651/6823/img2012101400788.jpg Pair 3 - Day 17 No pic take...

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Hi all here is the update for Saturday 13/10/2012. Pair 1 - Day 34 Here is a pic of the 3rd chick http://imageshack.us/a/img96/2411/img2012101300776.jpg Here is a pic of the 4th chick that Carmen has now sold http://imageshack.us/a/img209/5769/20121013.jpg Pair 3 - Day 16 http://imageshack.us/a/img2...

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Hi all here is the update for Friday 12/10/2012. Was unable to take any pics of my chicks as I worked a 12 hour shift on this day Pair 1 - Day 33 No pic taken for third chick Here is a pic of the 4th chick that Carmen has now sold http://imageshack.us/a/img202/7429/20121012img.jpg Pair 3 - Day 15 No...

Lushen1600

Hi Willow, I will still say greygreen.

I will in future lesson, explain how to put olive, darkgreen, cobalt, mauve, violet, etc,...into the calculator, I know that you are not hinting for the next lesson, but I will try and do another lesson during this weekend.

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Lushen

Lushen1600

Hi Deb, that chick is a greygreen, often mistaken for olive.

To produce olive you can use 2 darkgreen birds or 1 darkgreen and 1 cobalt

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Hi all here is todays update Pair 1 - here is the pics for today - Day 32 Here is a pic of the 3rd chick http://imageshack.us/a/img805/9968/img2012101100772.jpg Here is a pic of the smallest chick that now belongs to Carmen http://imageshack.us/a/img827/4848/img00862201210111555.jpg Pair 3 - here is...

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Hi Smick you are correct, this is the outcome of such a pairing 1.0 ino x 0.1 grey(sf) blue pallid cinnamon % from all 1.0 50.0% 1.0 grey(sf) green pallidIno /blue cinnamon 50.0% 1.0 green pallidIno /blue cinnamon % from all 0.1 50.0% 0.1 grey(sf) ino /blue 50.0% 0.1 ino /blue So you would get grey ...

Lushen1600

Hi Ernest

Thanks for your reply, would like to know which part of the genetic calculator do you see "OPA"?

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Lushen

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Ok so for our next lesson we are going to start with a very simple calculation and later move onto more calculations(I won't say more difficult calculations, cos once you get the hang of it, then it becomes very simple) So first up I always get asked the question as to how one enters a visual green ...

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Hi all I'm sure that you guys have had enough time to go thru some of the article links I have posted previously so I'm going to continue with lessons We last spoke about the top half of the calculator, so now I'm going to speak about the bottom half of the calculator First up here is another pic of...

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Hi all here is todays update Pair 1 - Day 31 Here is a pic of the 3rd chick which will be going to its new home next week http://imageshack.us/a/img694/1962/img2012101000764.jpg If the buyers of the other chicks send pics, then I will post them here Pair 3 - here is a pic for today - Day 13 http://i...

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Hi all here is an update for Tuesday(09/10/2012) Pair 1 - Day 30 + Pair 5 - Day 27 Here is a pic for the day http://imageshack.us/a/img231/4694/img2012100900748.jpg The 2 bigger blue chicks are going to their new homes today, the 3rd chick will be going to his/her new home next week, also you will s...

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Found this pic on the net regarding the ino cinnamon http://www.mcw-indianringnecks.com.au/globalaviaries/CarrBirds/pages_new/19cinnamon-ino_hen.htm And of a cock that looks like my golden cherry http://www.mcw-indianringnecks.com.au/globalaviaries/CarrBirds/pages/17-DominantEdgeGreygreen.htm Hi al...

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Do you know what the parents of your Lutino Hen are? She could be an Ino Cinnamon. I have never seen one and do not know if they apear lighter than a normal Lutino but I guess it is a possibilty because the only way to breed a Cock bird like you did from that pairing was if she did carry Cinnamon. ...

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Hi. SCB22 I have 2 babies that are growing up from my pairing of Dominent Edge Blue Cinnamon Male to Lutino female, both babies have red eyes, so not sure what colour they are going to be, I am however keeping both babies for myself but will let you know in the future if I get visual dominent edge b...

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Hi all here is an update for Monday(08/10/2012) Sorry for not posting any pics for today but I worked a long shift today and got home late, will post some pics tomorrow Pair 1 - Day 29 No pic taken for the day Babies are all growing fine and feathers coming out well Pair 2 - Day 9 Unfortunately this...

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Hi all here is an update for Sunday(07/10/2012) Pair 1 - Day 28 No pic taken for today of the 3 bigger blue chicks Pic of the smallest chick that is with Carmen http://imageshack.us/a/img526/1766/img00822201210071124.jpg I have swop this chick with a cash difference with Carmen for an Albino chick w...

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Hi all here is an update for Saturday(06/10/2012) Pair 1 - Day 27 + Pair 5 - Day 24, here is a pic of the 3 bigger chicks of Pair 1 and the 1 chick from Pair 5 currently being looked after by Carmen http://imageshack.us/a/img853/6523/img00815201210061355.jpg Fourth pic is of the smallest chick that ...

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Hi all here is an update for Friday(05/10/2012) Pair 1 - Day 26 + Pair 5 - Day 23, I had to go to Durban for the weekend so Carmen help me to feeds my birds, so here is a pic of the 3 bigger chicks of Pair 1 and the 1 chick from Pair 5 http://imageshack.us/a/img222/8840/img00807201210051944.jpg Four...

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Hi all here is an update for Thursday(04/10/2012) Pair 1 - here are pics for the day - Day 25 First pic is of the biggest chick http://imageshack.us/a/img16/9954/img2012100400732.jpg Second pic is of the second chick http://imageshack.us/a/img138/7950/img2012100400731.jpg Third pic is of the third c...

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Hi Deb, grey is a blue series bird, so you will get blue babies by putting 2 grey birds together, unless of course 1 bird is a double factor grey then you will get all grey babies, seeing that you got 1 blue baby, that would mean that both your birds are single factor, will explain all this in more ...

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Hi all here is an update for Wednesday (03/10/2012) Pair 1 - here are pics for the day - Day 24 First pic is of the biggest chick http://imageshack.us/a/img109/7742/img2012100300714.jpg Second pic is of the second chick http://imageshack.us/a/img442/8636/img2012100300715.jpg Third pic is of the thir...

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Hi all, I have some good news and some bad news Yesterday when I checked the maroon bellied conure nesting box, I found that they started to lay again http://imageshack.us/a/img440/1743/img2012100200696.jpg But today there was no egg to be found, not even a shell, so I don't know what's happening wi...

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Hi Eshana, when I build my brooder after breeding season, I will put up a DIY thread with pics so that others who want to build one will have some idea of what to do. The little baby is definitely in good hands with Carmen, next time I'm not going to take all the babies out at once, will take out th...

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Hi all, thanks for the replies, before I move onto a new lesson, I'm going to place links to articles which I'm hoping may help you understand parrot genetics better and not confuse you. Firstly I would like for you to read through these articles and if you can print them out and keep them in a file...

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Hi all here is an update for Tuesday (02/10/2012) Pair 1 - here are some pics for the day - Day 23 First pic is of the 2 bigger blue chicks http://imageshack.us/a/img809/4928/img2012100200697.jpg Second pic is of the 3rd blue chick(bottom left) and the chick from Pair 5(top right) http://imageshack....

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