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When i visited Jack Smiths averies years ago he showed me his ozy cobalts , i think these may be the line of birds Kappa has mentioned , i thought that line had been lost , a very different cobalt to the birds we now call ozy cobalt or deep . Known as Ozy Cobalt in Australia , Azure in England &...

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When i visited Jack Smiths averies years ago he showed me his ozy cobalts , i think these may be the line of birds Kappa has mentioned , i thought that line had been lost , a very different cobalt to the birds we now call ozy cobalt or deep . Known as Ozy Cobalt in Australia , Azure in England &...

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As you would expect my breeding results are on my web site ,under Saddlebacks, Theres also a series of Underwing Marker photos to compare to saddlebacks which are born with underwing markers ,You will be able to check with your young as Turquoise dont develop these markers until there 1 yr old molt....

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From memory you bought your turquoise harlequin from Joe [as a turquoise harlequin ], Who has never owned saddleback & never breed saddleback & never sold Saddleback , So im glad to see you dont claim to own saddleback ?So what are your breeding results ?My Saddleback layed its 4th egg today...

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The underwing patch is solid proof Saddlebacks are NOT a Turquoise mutation ,Therefore it also would indicate they must be another type par blue ?

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I breed 2 violet green normal birds ,they showed a very brilliant sheen [no breeding results from them ] , all the other green harlequins breed from saddlebacks i exported to Tienie & Deon ,from the breeding results i know of No green series bird has reproduced saddleback type gene . I hope Tien...

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Bob Ervine is supposed to have purched a saddleback from gary baldwin , it is a stunning bird , it has 1 normal violet win and the rest of the bird is normal saddleback , similar to a half sider but only shows on 1 wing ? Bob added a post claiming to have breed a violet that displays similar to Turq...

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The reason ive added these sexing certificates is i have herd Gary Baldwin now claims hes never owned Saddleback ,therefore hes never breed saddleback hence hes never sold Saddleback , When i by an expenscive bird i always re-sex the bird , as i did with the Saddlebacks i BOUGHT From Gary,Due to the...

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Paul i have never claimed to have exclusive on these birds , they were breed by Gary , The effort i have been involved in has always been to work out there Genetics , ive simply stated ,THEY ARE NOT SIMPLE TURQUOISE ,my only point . Twice you claimed these birds are common , i have exported to 4 bre...

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G,Day Paul , Lets address the great money grab your accusing me of , Since buying my first saddleback from Gary Baldwin in 2010 i have breed 4 saddlebacks 1, I gave to Deon Smith as a Birthday present & to help sort out there Genetics ? 2nd , I keeped 1 bird for my own breeding program. 3 rd ,Th...

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I have never heard of anyone breeding Saddleback x Saddleback ,possibly due to small numbers of these birds & the short time they have been available,Phil Highland & I didnt buy these birds from Gary until 2010 as rising 1 year olds.I have also exported all of Phils young saddlebacks + mine ...

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The first picture was a Photo taken by Gary , This was the first Saddleback born in Australia [ breed by Gary ] .Gary & Babu spent months sending emails , pics etc to each other to establish the naming of Saddlebacks . 10 . In this pic [ it was pointed out to me ] you can see the colour in the p...

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The underwing patch is yet another difference between Turquoise & saddleback ? The Turquoise Opaline cock is a good example - No underwing marker at all before 1 year old molt ,After the 1 year old molt it has the Turquoise marker. My opinion here is different to Mikes , all my Turquoise have th...

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Your message was short offencive & inaccurate and simply unnessary , i do expect more from you?+ Im also getting tired of silly replies from 2 or 3 petty people on this forum thats why i rearly bother adding post , when i do i think they are informative , accurate . Things like DF Harlequins don...

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Ben i obviously dont have your depth of knowledge , you claim these 2 babies from the best nest ive ever breed are simply nothing like cobalt emerold harlequins. Yet you have given No Explination , No Photoes of a Real true dinky dye Cobalt Emerold Harlequins , PLEASE EXPLAIN , share your wealth of ...

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Gratz you should probally point out,the farther to your bird in Deons book was the Turquoise Harlequin i sent to Deon , He used it to Compare to Saddleback and your bird isnt Saddleback and has nothing at all to do with saddlebacks Except as a comparasion bird for saddlebacks.Its simply a Turquoise ...

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I have breed 2 DF Violets This season + 1DF Violet Green/ blue, I also have 2 mature cobalt hens if they are of any help .
You can contact me through my web site . Google mcw-indianringnecks.

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The picture of peter smiths bird is emerold violet harlequin not emerold grey harlequin .,
Ben ,,,Did you find out what the parents of your saddleback were?
Added a picture of the emerold grey harlequin i sent to S,Africa

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Deon beleives the richness and depth of colour is the essance of saddleback , this is actually his bird so we will be able to have his breeding results when the time comes .I beleive hes mating him to Cobalt Emerold ? If you have a closer look at the top bird the yellowing is a lot richer than the t...

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Ive never claimed them to be a new mutation ,in saying that i dont beleive they are a combination of colours either? All ive said is i do not beleive these birds are Turquoise ,Do you think this bird is a simple Turquoise Harlequin . If its not Turquoise it then must still be a par blue of some type...

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I beleive ive sent Deon And Tienie very good stock to sort this stuff out ,Especially the green series birds , i think there breeding results will tell a lot about them , I hope my results from adding Emerold will also help clear the air so to speak. I think it best we wait for there results as bree...

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As you can see the Saddlebacks always display strongly as the pin feathers open. In the photoe of my DF Harlequin Saddleback you can see around 3 months you couldnt tell this bird from any other Turquoise bird. [ DF Harlequin or creamino ]. From 7 or 8 months theres always a strong colour change , y...

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Phil breed 3 saddlebacks this year all cocks ,1 i have ready for export ,1 going to live in Sydney + 1 4sale .Pics of the 3 birds have been added Thanks Stef. Notice the varst difference of colour in these birds ,if you go to my web site you will notice all saddleback display varstly differently to ...

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i have tryed loading photoes ,its just to hard ,sorry
There are no red eyes in the saddleback line ,its just the way that photo turned out.

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G,Day Bebbjamin , the parents and grandparents are all pictured on my web site under new mutations,if youd like a picture trail . The grandfarther was a Turquoise Harlequin split Opaline , His farther and mother were both born almost identical presummed opaline harlequin, simply unusual birds thats ...

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When I bought this bird off my trusted friend he guaranteed it as a Clearwing Cleartail and from the neckring up would have a beautiful blue head, I was surprised that this bird as a 3yr old has never produced a neckring and by now we all know that this bird is only a DF Harlequin. We know that Harl...

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Yes the bird with the normal violet patch on its wing was 1 of 4 born in that season 1 or 2 clutches ,im not sure ? I would not consider this bird to be a Half -Sider either as its only a patch on one wing, again something unusual? The green series birds breed from saddlebacks have not yet reproduce...

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To the averadge breeder picking cobalt violet from violet from cobalt isnt always as easy as you think. What i was suggesting was simply use cobalt to the cobalt emerold harlequin and you could avoid any confusion ,as its easyier to pick cobalt from mauve from blue

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Ive said 1000 times saddlebacks do not carry TURQUOISE nor do they carry OPALINE .If they carried Turquoise then they would simply be turquoise harlequins. These birds are NOT simple TURQUOISE HARLEQUINS,Even the Violet Green Harlequins breed from saddlebacks are completly different both to each oth...

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I do have old Uv pics of her on my web site also 9 photoes of opaline harlequins ,i have tried many time but cant load them ,my system only allows 800 or 1084 so its either to big or to small , i really think it should be easier to load photoes on this site ,most of us are older and not computer sma...

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breeding emerold to harlequin is great , breeding emerold to anything is great . Breeding violet to cobalt causes problems

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G,Day All . The SF Emerolds i breed produced a neckring at 2yrs old the DF Emerold never produced a neckring. I sent Deon a SF Emerold hen And a DF Emerold hen for comparision , both that i breed . The DF Emerold hen Phil Breed i keeped to breed with my DF Emerold cock i breed, unfortunility no eggs...

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G,Day Nathan ,Theres probally 16 combinations 1 Emerold Cobalt Violet Harlequin 2 Emerold Cobalt Harlequin 3 Emerold Violet Harlequin 4 Emerold Blue Harlequin 5 Cobalt Violet Harlequin 6 Cobalt Harlequin 7 Violet Harlequin 8 Blue Harlequin Then you would breed all these colours without the Harlequin...

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G,Day Ben. That 1s a 1yr old violet saddleback cock ,i took the first 2 photoes and Tienie took the 3rd , all 3 pics are of the same bird . From memory all before its first molt .Maybe Tienie could update. Added 1 picture of the DF Harlequin + Saddleback ,to show her colour change, she as i said she...

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If yous read my Saddleback section on my web-site [mcw-indianringnecks ]there a section where i stated a baby in the nest seemed to have been born Violet Green but seemed to have faded to normal Green Hallequin , i know this sounds a bit odd to the point i wasnt going to include it,but this was my o...

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EMEROLD= LINE BREED INDIGO TO ELEMINATE PATCHINESS . ??? This statement is just so WRONG in so many ways. It doesnt matter how many times you Line Breed or In-Breed you will NEVER produce Emerolds from Turquoise. One of the greatest CON jobs ever pulled in Australia was the sale of PastleAquas,were ...

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G,Day Mike , As you can see on my web site , the use of UV light will give you a real good insight to what your dealing with , why not drop overand borrow my gear??

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Seen as were back on the subject of saddles , I said once my new web site was finished id tell the form, it has now been made live , sorry about the larst 18months i was trying to have it built professionly, i simply went to the wrong guy.There was a question about Opaline Harlequins raised ,theres ...

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Can you send me this baby pic + your first pic + a resent pic if possable to my email chris@mcw-indianringnecks.com.au its the only way i can save pictures
Thanks
Chris

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Gratz the only picture i dont have for my web site is that showing change in colour from young to old of your type of saddleback , could you please post those pics to me .I beleive you have my email adress.

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I cant explain it but theres no turquoise or opaline in our birds,thats the point of the forum, to help to do that. When i breed DF Emerold i was aquised of being a liar as its genetically not possable to breed df emerold. When Phil showed pics of his first saddleback nest ,they said dont buy saddle...

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As ive said for years i dont beleive Turquoise is involved. So what else but a new par blue could be responsable for there richness of colour and yellow projessive colouring. So far its beleived ive misheld information and used artifisual light to maluniplate photoes .. I suppose its ok for people a...

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since 2009 when phil and i received our saddlebacks we have both breed 3 saddlebacks each , we have both sold only 1 bird each + 1 i gave to a friend for his birthday.Neither of us has breed any Turquoise looking birds , From the green series birds that we did produce [from saddleback ] . From there...

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Thats the results id expect as well , but its been explained to me why it genetically doesnt work as expected, id like Mike or Recio to comment,

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Some people beleive you cant breed straight emerold turquoise. ,Although my old mate Gary has sold them,Maybey Mike or Recio can explain the genetics on this? I know 2 that have breed Emerold Turquoise Cleartails 1 is a big breeder now suffering illness, so his records are non - usuable. And Mike wh...

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The pic under uv has a saddleback on the left and turquoise harlequin on the right . In Deons book from memory he says that the essence of saddleback lies in the intensity deepth or richness in there colour something along those lines. Im rebuilding my new web site theres 40 odd pics on there about ...

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saddleback is simply the wrong name for these birds

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G,Day Tienie , I can send you a simple Violet Emerold hen to test breed to your violet saddleback cock to, this will give you stunning babies , and good test results. My new web site should be completed before the weekend , Hope it answers some of your theories. Feel free to use pictures from my web...

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Hi My name is Chris from mcw-indianringnecks its been over 12 years since a book on Indian Ringnecks has been published Deon Smith has just released his new book called "Ringneck Colour Genetics" this is an in-depth study into new mutations like Emerald, Saddleback and Harlequins. This boo...

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