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by madas
Wed May 03, 2017 3:58 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Mutation calculator
Replies: 1
Views: 220

Re: Mutation calculator

by madas
Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:49 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: clearhead fallow opaline
Replies: 28
Views: 3272

Re: clearhead fallow opaline

Has anyone produced a CHF Opaline bird yet ? appreciate if anyone can pls share reference snaps of an adult CHF Opaline male thanks Ask Sjack for pics of such a combo. He has breed one (femlae) in 2015. But the bird isn't as nice as an opaline CT. And a male will get the head of a CHF. For now such...
by madas
Mon May 23, 2016 4:22 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: harlequin pallid
Replies: 2
Views: 343

Re: harlequin pallid

Both are melanin altering mutation. So a combination should be avoided because you will end up with "lutino" looking birds.
So best way is the combine both mutations with structual (dark, violet, deep) or (and) parblue (turquoise, indigo, aqua) mutations.
by madas
Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:21 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: deep Violet?
Replies: 4
Views: 634

Re: deep Violet?

Kappa wrote:It looks like a double factor violet cobalt.


Yeah i would agree with you Kappa.
by madas
Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:18 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep
Replies: 45
Views: 3104

Re: Deep

The blueish rump in micks pic:

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by madas
Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:47 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep
Replies: 45
Views: 3104

Re: Deep

Ma das wrong photo the photo refered to is of a single bird and clearly marked first aussie mauve and even better would be to find out how it was bred. :lol: :lol: :lol: there was a bunch of 5-8 pics showing one and the same "aus mauve" in comparison with some other birds like pallids and...
by madas
Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:12 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep
Replies: 45
Views: 3104

Re: Deep

There is a photo of the first Australian Mauve on Mick Blakes site Karmic Averies I think it was taken in early 2003-4 I think Ma das would be interested in that. No madas wouldn't be interested in these pics because he already has and know them. And it is showing nothing more then a Misty(df) blue...
by madas
Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:52 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep
Replies: 45
Views: 3104

Re: Deep

It is my opinion that these birds do form part of the dark mutation which has been confirmed by MUTAVI and the proving of it being a different mutation has been inadequate and flawed as this mutation has never been documented as to how it behaves in a controlled breeding program that is devoid of o...
by madas
Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:12 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep
Replies: 45
Views: 3104

Re: Deep

Hi Madas, I have a small number of birds, 6 to be exact, that originate from a cock bird that is better known as a Swales olive. Gavin Swales worked with these green birds for years and bred a number of them in df and called them olives. The Deep blues were eventually bred from these green birds. H...
by madas
Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:01 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep
Replies: 45
Views: 3104

Re: Deep

Kappa wrote:yet my breeding results to date don't reflect the outcomes you'd expect from deeps.


Can you give us some more details?

thx in advance.
by madas
Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:00 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep
Replies: 45
Views: 3104

Re: Deep

Deep is a confussing unnecessary term used to create interest in varying expressions of Dark mutation. And again you prove your non-existing knowledge on avian genetics. The dark factor by definition is incomplete dominant and is creating a greyish phenotype for the homozygous form. Any other struc...
by madas
Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:52 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Is this a creamino?
Replies: 1
Views: 502

Re: Is this a creamino?

No. Looks more like a cinnamon grey(sf) turqBlue.
by madas
Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:51 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Biallelic expresion
Replies: 27
Views: 2694

Re: Biallelic expresion

Since we know that this is valid for Violet and Grey I guess that CTCH could be also acting at the structural level, producing secondary changes in pigment expression. But keep in mind that mostly (98%) the dominant mutations are changing the structur and the recessive mutations are responsible for...
by madas
Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:12 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Biallelic expresion
Replies: 27
Views: 2694

Re: Biallelic expresion

Recio wrote:To me, Indigo is not a mutation but a morphotype (...) which can be achieved through different alleles.


Hm, i thought different alleles are the cause for a mutation. :(

madas
by madas
Tue May 26, 2015 4:10 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Grey green ID?
Replies: 1
Views: 554

Re: Grey green ID?

And what is the question?
by madas
Fri May 22, 2015 5:41 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: The saddle is back
Replies: 35
Views: 3347

Re: The saddle is back

Looks like Turquoise marker.
by madas
Thu May 07, 2015 2:54 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: The saddle is back
Replies: 35
Views: 3347

Re: The saddle is back

Some updated pics of Bobs parblues from the org. "SB" female of OZ. Thx Bob for your contribution. violet(sf) female: http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/sam2380snepy6mv0z.jpg violet(sf) male: http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/sam23785k0hvjadil.jpg http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/up...
by madas
Thu May 07, 2015 2:53 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
Replies: 27
Views: 2171

Re: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?

To make it shorter: if you pair a phenotypic Parblue to Blue and you never get Parblue offspring and/or you get green series offspring you should consider the possibility of dealing with a new Parblue belonging to another locus (Blue2). As said 1000 times in earlier posts Bob Irvine has breed two &...
by madas
Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:51 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
Replies: 27
Views: 2171

Re: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?

we only have one nest from Irvine suggesting that it is another Blue(1) allele. I think that it is not enough to conclude. On the one hand you are excepting that a single unexpected offspring could prove resp. disprove a theory (for example: single green offspring from a pair bronze fallow x NSLino...
by madas
Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:12 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
Replies: 27
Views: 2171

Re: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?

To make it shorter: if you pair a phenotypic Parblue to Blue and you never get Parblue offspring and/or you get green series offspring you should consider the possibility of dealing with a new Parblue belonging to another locus (Blue2). As said 1000 times in earlier posts Bob Irvine has breed two &...
by madas
Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:47 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: The saddle is back
Replies: 35
Views: 3347

Re: The saddle is back

To me the most impressive finding in Bob Irvine's female is that the melanin and psittacin deposition seems to be mostly independent, specially in the body (head colour is not easy to determine), that is I can not see a single feather showing a green colour, but just yellow or blue or white colours...
by madas
Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:37 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: The saddle is back
Replies: 35
Views: 3347

Re: The saddle is back

1. The red ring of a Turquoise Emerald (or TurquoiseEmerald, selon hypothesis) shows a lower amount of red psittacin than a TurquoiseBlue bird. This statement isn't correct. The emeraldTurquoise of Len Mitchel are showing a normal pink neckring. http://img4.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/1042214315614...
by madas
Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:11 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: The saddle is back
Replies: 35
Views: 3347

Re: The saddle is back

Chris SB, as I specified above, seems to be a combo of Dom Pied lacking melanin in the saddle area + specific Parblue with an increase in psittacin pigment specially in the saddle area. Look at those pics: http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag57/jrecio99/SaddlebackViolet_1_zpszaxdbxwv.jpg http://i...
by madas
Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:46 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: The saddle is back
Replies: 35
Views: 3347

Re: The saddle is back

You wrote ..... "Bob Irvine has breed two violet(sf) "parblue"Blue offspring birds from Garrys famous first "saddleback" hen of OZ paired to plain blue." Could you show us the pics of these parblues bred from SB? We know that Emeralds breed Emeralds, Indigo breed Indig...
by madas
Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:24 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: The saddle is back
Replies: 35
Views: 3347

Re: The saddle is back

So here is some new input to the saddleback discussion. Attached some pics of an emerald dom pied. undewing which is showing the typical emerald markers: http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/10959461102915isw28q7hve.jpg short after leaving the nest: http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/1546386...
by madas
Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:08 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: The saddle is back
Replies: 35
Views: 3347

Re: The saddle is back

as breeding results not producing Turquoise birds after pairing to Blue series birds seems to suggest (could it be a Parblue 2???). This statement is not correct because Bob Irvine has breed two violet(sf) "parblue"Blue offspring birds from Garrys famous first "saddleback" hen o...
by madas
Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:19 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Mistyerious clutch
Replies: 8
Views: 2094

Re: Mistyerious clutch

They look like the khaki violets of Mr. Ehrenbrink.

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by madas
Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:07 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What am I?
Replies: 3
Views: 1270

Re: What am I?

One of the parents was a malabar (Psittacula columboides). Second unsure. :)
Maybe Psittacula alexandri or Ringneck.
by madas
Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:54 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: african ringneck
Replies: 8
Views: 1263

Re: african ringneck

ZaneFindlay wrote:I also have mutations in both species


May i ask which mutations do you have? I know of only lutino and possibly blue.
by madas
Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:57 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: saddleback emerald
Replies: 9
Views: 2079

Re: saddleback emerald

Some other pics of Chris. He will comment on his own.

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by madas
Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:50 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: saddleback emerald
Replies: 9
Views: 2079

Re: saddleback emerald

Underwing pics:

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by madas
Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:22 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?
Replies: 33
Views: 2936

Re: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?

Hi Recio, here is a pic of a possible cinnamon-ino blue breed this season here in Germany. Unfortunately the bird died caused by a crash followed by a neck fracture. :( Do you see the soft brownish overlay? This is the pheneotype i would expect for such a bird. Your cinnamon-lutino looks much more d...
by madas
Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:15 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Lutino Cinnamon/blue
Replies: 10
Views: 1510

Re: Lutino Cinnamon/blue

Not a cinnamon-ino but a cinnamon-ino blue:

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by madas
Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:07 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: saddleback emerald
Replies: 9
Views: 2079

saddleback emerald

Chris has asked me to post some pics of his first "saddleback emerald" breed from saddleback blue x dom. pied emerald cobalt. http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/20140220029w6i5q4pst.jpg http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/2014032q1ohvy89ld.jpg Happy viewing.
by madas
Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:57 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: NSLino
Replies: 3
Views: 993

Re: NSLino

Recio wrote:Hi Madas,

Are you sure it was about NSL Ino? I read it also somewhere in facebook but if I remember correctly it was about a kind of fallow (dun fallow???)

Regards

Recio


Yes i am sure it was NSLino.
by madas
Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:13 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: NSLino
Replies: 3
Views: 993

NSLino

Hi Are there two kinds of NSLino floating around in IRNs? For sure the "NSLino" out of cleartail lines are showing a visible iris. But Peter Oeschger mentioned some where that his "NSLino" isn't showing a visible iris. So is there anybody who can confirm the existence of two dist...
by madas
Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:06 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 3032

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

sheyd wrote:Image


Looks like two distinct phenotypes. SL Edged b irds in dark(sf) green and violet(sf) green. :)
by madas
Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:03 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 3032

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

sheyd wrote:Yes, I think its pretty safe to say that she's a Violet(sf) Dark(sf) Green :D


Looks like Violet(sf) Dark(sf) Green for me too. So congratulation.
by madas
Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:27 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What am i? (again)
Replies: 25
Views: 3093

Re: What am i? (again)

Madas, Did you get any updates on the DNA results ? I still think Opaline is in play. We have seen Opaline to turn into white headed bird in Phil's "DF Pied Opaline" So here are the males: Misty SL Edged IndigoBlue Grey /Cinnamon /Lutino and the other is SL Edged turqBlue /Cinnamon /Lutin...
by madas
Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:21 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What am i? (again)
Replies: 25
Views: 3093

Re: What am i? (again)

Ring0Neck wrote:PS: Does anyone know what the results were from this testbreeding program?
http://www.mutavi.info/index.php?ref=appeal2


I have asked Inte and he told me that there are no conclusive results regarding this breeding programm due to low participation. :(

madas
by madas
Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:38 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutation?
Replies: 98
Views: 5088

Re: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutat

Recio ,, Madas et al... of the 2 pairs of alex : pr 1 emerald green /blue - Albino pr 2 Emerald green/blue - green/blue I have been breeding emerald blues , emerald greens and greens. I lost 3 red eyed offspring and perhaps 6 other chicks D I S due to bad incubator controls... this season I have a ...
by madas
Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:19 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 3032

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

sheyd wrote:Image


Interesting color of the downs. Very dark grey. But could be the pic.
by madas
Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:11 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 3032

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

If these (Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green) are the odds then i would vote for the last option violet(sf) dark(sf) green. for comparison a oliv pos. violet(sf) and a violet(sf) dark(sf) green (siblings). parents violet(sf) dark(sf) indigoBlue and oliv /blue. the violet(sf) d...
by madas
Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:31 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutation?
Replies: 98
Views: 5088

Re: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutat

Madas the green emerald hen is paired to a blue normal cock. 4 chicks..still to feather. thx. If you got one plain blue chick then emerald could be dominant. If all 4 are emerald blue series then it is 99% a rec. mutation but with small visible markers in the green series. :) Hi Lee & Madas, If...
by madas
Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:27 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutation?
Replies: 98
Views: 5088

Re: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutat

Molossus2 wrote:Madas the green emerald hen is paired to a blue normal cock.
4 chicks..still to feather.


thx. If you got one plain blue chick then emerald could be dominant. If all 4 are emerald blue series then it is 99% a rec. mutation but with small visible markers in the green series. :)
by madas
Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:00 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutation?
Replies: 98
Views: 5088

Re: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutat

Mike,Willie ,,, my emerald green harlequin irn (the one i posted pics of sometime ago) produced what appears to be an emerald blue..it is the first of four chicks, and its pins are just pushing out. Whadya know? The green harlequin I stated to be an emerald green appears to be just that. I will pos...
by madas
Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:42 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Can someone help please?
Replies: 11
Views: 984

Re: Can someone help please?

How do the eyes of the parents look like? For what i can see from the pics tehy have no visible iris. Is it true?
by madas
Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:56 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Can someone help please?
Replies: 11
Views: 984

Re: Can someone help please?

mickeyd wrote:I could take a few pics and of the parents if that will help

Thanx


Would be nice.
by madas
Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:45 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?
Replies: 33
Views: 2936

Re: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?

I have not found the file I was looking for but those here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Genetics-Psittacine/conversations/topics/10 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Genetics-Psittacine/conversations/messages/14630 Hope it helps Recio Hi Recio, after reading through the whole discussion i...
by madas
Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:39 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Can someone help please?
Replies: 11
Views: 984

Re: Can someone help please?

========================================================= 1,0 cleartail turquoiseBlue x 0,1 cleartail turquoiseBlue ========================================================= % from all 1,0 1,0 25% cleartail blue 1,0 25% cleartail turquoise 1,0 50% cleartail turquoiseBlue ---------------------------...

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