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by Ring0Neck
Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:18 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Heip with identifying Mutation
Replies: 5
Views: 778

Re: Heip with identifying Mutation

He is a TurquoiseBlue Pallid (old name would be PastelBlue Lacewing)
by Ring0Neck
Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:14 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Biallelic expresion
Replies: 27
Views: 2693

Re: Biallelic expresion

Hi Paul. We don't have to be all at the same level of genetic knowledge (and we aren't) That's why we have Recioes, Johans and Madases around :) I see Madas and Johan as our referees :D The rest of us exploring, Recio leading ... holding the torch . I too think there's a lot more to explore and even...
by Ring0Neck
Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:59 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Biallelic expresion
Replies: 27
Views: 2693

Re: Biallelic expresion

Hi Paul, I do not remember seeing the FB post, so i did not see the error you are talking about about however here is a simple explanation of Hetero & Homo if it helps anyone. In respect to Parblues; Turquoise, Indigo, Emerald A Heterozygous Indigo can exist in 2 forms and look different: 1. Wil...
by Ring0Neck
Sat May 09, 2015 10:38 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
Replies: 27
Views: 2171

Re: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?

Kappa, Your plan of breeding is good. The Mauve hen make sure she does not carry Violet. I suggest we use the term Khaki for now to reference this mutation, there are a few things that does not fit Misty, Speaking to Martin, he states that 75% of the Deeps he breeds are of the expected phenotype and...
by Ring0Neck
Sat May 09, 2015 1:11 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
Replies: 27
Views: 2171

Re: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?

Hi Kappa, That's some excelent ground work you guys did and I think you're on the right track. I know it is too late to make you change your mind but here is the reason why you should. Although your pairing is great i think pairing your Green "Khaki" X Mauve would be a better option here'...
by Ring0Neck
Thu May 07, 2015 8:45 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
Replies: 27
Views: 2171

Re: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?

Madas, Recio, Johan I bred this strange TurqBlue from my CHF pair that does not fit as a Dark or Turq.Blue. It is strikingly similar to Bob's (see comparisson pic below). I had a breeder visiting me a few months back and i showed him the bird in Q. and he asked: Where is the Turquoise? He asked beca...
by Ring0Neck
Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:22 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
Replies: 27
Views: 2171

Re: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?

Thanks Recio, I am assuming SB parblue as Parblue2Blue2 or Parblue2Parblue2, but you are rigth: most of SB have been paired to Blue series birds and thus they are very probably also split to Blue1, but not Parblue2Blue1, since we are talking about different genes. Then we are assuming this formula?:...
by Ring0Neck
Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:47 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
Replies: 27
Views: 2171

Re: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?

Hi Recio, Interesting thoughts. I got stuck here though: " In this case the SB parblue (let's call it saddle parblue) could be a partial blue mutation of a different second Blue locus (Blue2), thus behaving as recessive respective to Blue1, but very probably acting as dominant on Blue 2." ...
by Ring0Neck
Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:21 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Deep
Replies: 45
Views: 3060

Re: Deep

No Deep Blue is not the same as Cobalt
they do look very similar
by Ring0Neck
Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:14 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Lutino Cinnamon/blue
Replies: 10
Views: 1510

Re: Lutino Cinnamon/blue

shaun4rmsa The cinnamon chick you bred last year, do you have a photo of him? You could have edged or misty not cinnamon, easiest way is to look at the "cinnamon" chick you bred at his primary flight feathers, if faded color, washed out color it can be edged or misty. Mike, yes Creamino ha...
by Ring0Neck
Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:56 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: saddleback emerald
Replies: 9
Views: 2077

Re: saddleback emerald

Chris, My last reply was a bit spiced up but only to match yours. I apologise for that it's not in my character, however if you felt the last question as being offensive but it was not. Why? Because there are 2 phenotypes to Emerald Cobalt Pieds, not just yours. I have a hen just like your cockbird ...
by Ring0Neck
Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:09 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: saddleback emerald
Replies: 9
Views: 2077

Re: saddleback emerald

Feeling better now Chris? I don't come on forums to argue or to disagree. I do want to learn more than most breeders out there. I don't mind being wrong once in a while, it's called learning Chris, staying on the safe side is not an option for me. IDing Genotypes from a photo is hard and being wrong...
by Ring0Neck
Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:44 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: saddleback emerald
Replies: 9
Views: 2077

Re: saddleback emerald

Cobalt Emerald Harlequin?
looks nothing like one.
by Ring0Neck
Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:41 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged
Replies: 273
Views: 20070

Re: SL Edged

Update: 3/3 eggs have hatched- all appear to have dark (normal) eyes. Now to wait and see how they feather- any non edged will be dna sexed- time couldn't go slower. update chicks are a couple of weeks and a few days old now- all have light nails- tipping all to be edged at this stage All chicks wi...
by Ring0Neck
Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:46 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: IRN breeding / mutation questions.
Replies: 8
Views: 2965

Re: IRN breeding / mutation questions.

Buks, That is extremely rare. Do you have an incubator? or Foster hens laying at the same time? I would take about 7 place in the incubator and most probably quiet a few will be infertile, after say 10 days you remove all infertile eggs and replace them with the incubated fertile ones. pretty sure h...
by Ring0Neck
Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:53 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What am i? (again)
Replies: 25
Views: 3091

Re: What am i? (again)

Hi, and another mystery "Pallid" from a friend of mine out of indigo violet cobalt x indigo: http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/img080619zxkv8ect.jpg http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/unbekanntjmhk3od8yn.jpg Until this season no pallids were breed from her parents and her grand...
by Ring0Neck
Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:50 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: what to put with a violet turquoise cobalt cock??
Replies: 1
Views: 838

Re: what to put with a violet turquoise cobalt cock??

A Violet green hen/Blue would work out good as you will get green series violets, turquoise violets & normal violets. If that is what you want to achieve go for it. ================================================= 1,0 Violet turquoiseBlue x 0,1 Violet green /blue ===============================...
by Ring0Neck
Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:46 am
Forum: Breeding IRNs
Topic: new to this and worried
Replies: 2
Views: 325

Re: new to this and worried

Sounds like you have a communal aviary. Indian ringnecks are best housed in pairs for exactly this sort of reasons... rivalry. Indruders will kill other young, rival hens & cocks will fight even kill each other. Now that you know your problem find solutions to resolve it ASAP. If you never hand ...
by Ring0Neck
Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:14 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald, einmal
Replies: 67
Views: 4823

Re: Emerald, einmal

He posted on Willy's thread Yesterday & replied to your Questions as well.
by Ring0Neck
Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:51 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald, einmal
Replies: 67
Views: 4823

Re: Emerald, einmal

Hi Mike,

You can talk to Aaron directly he is on FB, he is a great guy to talk to.
by Ring0Neck
Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:46 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 3028

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

Good job Shey :)

Nice birds n pics.
by Ring0Neck
Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:52 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald, einmal
Replies: 67
Views: 4823

Re: Emerald, einmal

ALL Blue series birds CARRY Emerald How many birds are we talking about, Ben? Granted, I think we are looking at an allele of the blue locus. Is that sufficient to classify it as a parblue? I think the answer is no. 6 birds so far inc. 2 of last year. pair might go down again this year. 3 Emeralds ...
by Ring0Neck
Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:46 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald, einmal
Replies: 67
Views: 4823

Re: Emerald, einmal

Here is another update from Aaron :

Second year breeding Violet green/Emerald/CT X Violet Blue Cleartail hen:
ALL Blue series birds CARRY Emerald
This confirms Emerald mutation a Recessive mutation to Wildtype (Green)
and this supports Emerald being a Parblue !!!

Thoughts?
by Ring0Neck
Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:05 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald, einmal
Replies: 67
Views: 4823

Re: Emerald, einmal

update emeralds:
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by Ring0Neck
Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:47 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: What am i? (again)
Replies: 25
Views: 3091

Re: What am i? (again)

Madas, Did you get any updates on the DNA results ? I still think Opaline is in play. We have seen Opaline to turn into white headed bird in Phil's "DF Pied Opaline" So here are the males: Misty SL Edged IndigoBlue Grey /Cinnamon /Lutino and the other is SL Edged turqBlue /Cinnamon /Lutino...
by Ring0Neck
Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:51 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
Replies: 32
Views: 3028

Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree

If i can read your pics correctly i'd say Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green
give it a bit more time to be sure
by Ring0Neck
Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:50 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald, einmal
Replies: 67
Views: 4823

Re: Emerald, einmal

Emerald clutch starting to break a few pin-feathers.

2nd pic: grey & grey emerald by what we can see thus far

Image

At this stage we have 50% emeralds 2/4. One bird still to feather.
by Ring0Neck
Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:59 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet wing coloration?
Replies: 15
Views: 1111

Re: Violet wing coloration?

No problem. You're welcome.
as they say "Question everything"
by Ring0Neck
Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:49 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet wing coloration?
Replies: 15
Views: 1111

Re: Violet wing coloration?

If Male Yes
offspring will be 50/50 edged male and female as well as straight coloured male and female
by Ring0Neck
Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:29 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet wing coloration?
Replies: 15
Views: 1111

Re: Violet wing coloration?

Edged is a a Sex Linked Dominant mutation (Heterosomal Dominant)

a hen due to sex link will breed all males edged & they are visual because it is a dominant mutation
an edged male will do however breed 50% edged in femlaes and males.
by Ring0Neck
Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:53 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet wing coloration?
Replies: 15
Views: 1111

Re: Violet wing coloration?

Yes Bargain. Most breeders don't understand Edged and confuse it for Cinnamon most times they pair it to a real cinnamon and in OZ most of edged birds are now combined with cinnamon, for this reason leaving clean edged birds a rarity. (If your bird turns out a male it would not surprise me if it is ...
by Ring0Neck
Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:35 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet wing coloration?
Replies: 15
Views: 1111

Re: Violet wing coloration?

Breeder could erronously ID this bird as Cinnamon violet aka Lavender hence he is nest sexing the bird a hen.
Get the bird DNA sexed yep.

Nice bird BTW, congrats.
by Ring0Neck
Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:21 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet wing coloration?
Replies: 15
Views: 1111

Re: Violet wing coloration?

You need to make sure it is a hen, from the wing pic it looks dark for an edged hen. how old is the bird? You will get normal violets in hens, all males will carry the edged mutation If you are pairing this bird to a cobalt you'll get: ================================== 1,0 Cobalt x 0,1 Edged Violet...
by Ring0Neck
Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:05 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Violet wing coloration?
Replies: 15
Views: 1111

Re: Violet wing coloration?

Hi Sarah,

That bird is Edged Violet
A normal Violet has dark flight feathers.
by Ring0Neck
Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:04 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald, einmal
Replies: 67
Views: 4823

Re: Emerald, einmal

Johan,

Here's the pic you wanted. 11 days old & younger ; Emerald clutch.


Image
by Ring0Neck
Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:39 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald, einmal
Replies: 67
Views: 4823

Re: Emerald, einmal

Emerald clutch.
In an effort to save the 5th chick I have pulled the young & a friend is now HR the chicks.
IRNs have 1 rule: Survival of the fittest! but i don't have time to play games with nature ;)

Image
by Ring0Neck
Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:54 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?
Replies: 33
Views: 2934

Re: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?

Thanks Recio for the pics.

I was expecting a much lighter phenotype, more like my pic below.
Interesting.
by Ring0Neck
Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:09 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?
Replies: 33
Views: 2934

Re: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?

Recio, You can email them to me if easier. happy to upload them if a hassle for you. from this pairing results it seems that Violet and Clearhead Fallow could be linked. I found it to be the opposite in the last few years. Been trying to breed a Turq. Violet CHF for a few years, maybe this year....
by Ring0Neck
Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:27 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?
Replies: 33
Views: 2934

Re: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?

Recio,

I didn't notice anything unusual, could be just luck.

Green Cinnamon Violet Clearhead Fallow female
any chance you can share a pic please?
by Ring0Neck
Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:24 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: 2B or not 2B ?
Replies: 29
Views: 1869

Re: 2B or not 2B ?

Why? I think the opaline does not have the right color palett/playground to do its magic, or it won't allow it. hopefully pieds+ parblues? could provide such environment for Opaline to do its magical play of colors. Hi Ben, yes, unfortunately IRN breeders are going to miss out on the real magic, wh...
by Ring0Neck
Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:45 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald, einmal
Replies: 67
Views: 4823

Re: Emerald, einmal

I will also do an emerald clutch of 5 young, they are about 5-9 days younger than the ones above.

pic of the young from Grey Emerald X Deep Violet
http://parakeet.me/irn/m/em/DSC_1615.jpg

The more volunteers the better, if anyone else is willing to do it, it'd be great.
by Ring0Neck
Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:29 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald, einmal
Replies: 67
Views: 4823

Re: Emerald, einmal

This is the Indigo nest i can keep updated pics on, my bro is handfeeding this lot. Parents of 3 chicks: DF Violet Green/Blue X (Poss Homozygous) Indigo Pallid hen Based on what's known of the parents i assume the blue series of the 3 young will be Violet IndigoBlues Fourth young is a split buttercu...
by Ring0Neck
Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:09 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?
Replies: 50
Views: 3726

Re: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations

Recio, Would this be the expected results for below pair if different allèles of the same mutation? ================================================= 1,0 cinnamon Edged x 0,1 cinnamon ================================================= 1,0 50% cinnamonEdged 1,0 50% cinnamon cinnamon -----------------...
by Ring0Neck
Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:52 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?
Replies: 50
Views: 3726

Re: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations

Cinnamon were different allèles of the same mutation. 1.0 SF SL-Edged x 0.1 Cinnamon would yield: Males: 25.0% 1.0 SL-EdgedCinnamon 25.0% 1.0 WildCinnamon (green split cinnamon) Females: 25.0% 0.1 green 25.0% 0.1 SL-Edged Recio, Would this be the expected results for below pair if different allèles ...
by Ring0Neck
Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:15 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?
Replies: 50
Views: 3726

Re: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?

That's some excelent work Recio!
by Ring0Neck
Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:32 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?
Replies: 50
Views: 3726

Re: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?

Hard to think at this hour :lol:
(had a long day)
by Ring0Neck
Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:16 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?
Replies: 50
Views: 3726

Re: SL Edged and Cinnamon: alleles or mutations?

Recio,

This is a tough nut to crack . My brain keeps resetting half way through :lol:


I like the challenge though & i'm sure others will have a real crack at it, i guess anyone attempting this better have some free time & a bit of Yoga might also help :D
by Ring0Neck
Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:22 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Cinnamon turquoise violet
Replies: 37
Views: 2211

Re: Cinnamon turquoise violet

No Keyboard, please press CTRL ALT DEL to restart your PC :lol:
by Ring0Neck
Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:46 am
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald, einmal
Replies: 67
Views: 4823

Re: Emerald, einmal

Since Emerald is also expressed from fledging I was wandering if the down of young Emeralds could also be different than the down expressed by the classic parblues. I can have a look in a few days Recio, I have 5 young in the nest just hatched a couple of days ago. Congratulations. Do you own a par...
by Ring0Neck
Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:45 pm
Forum: Mutations/Genetics
Topic: Emerald, einmal
Replies: 67
Views: 4823

Re: Emerald, einmal

Since Emerald is also expressed from fledging I was wandering if the down of young Emeralds could also be different than the down expressed by the classic parblues.


I can have a look in a few days Recio, I have 5 young in the nest just hatched a couple of days ago.

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